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I'm sticking my vote on hopeless mostly by PoE at the moment. It's not really a decisive vote until I actually re-read him.
The remaining candidates are really:
OWS Kelsier boxer rsoultin Hopeless
and I'm sort of leaning towards not lynching rsoultin based on the fact (that I missed before) she already had a strong "shitty read" on GB. It makes her much more consistent.
Although rayn is literally going to punch me in the balls if she's mafia and I let her out of this.
I don't like being punched in the balls.
meh
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On July 29 2015 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 08:19 Palmar wrote:On July 29 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today
"forming quickly" is stupid Name me one reason why we should lynch clarity that cannot be explained by "he can't play the game". I was responding to GB's comment that clarity can't be scum because the "wagon" formed too quickly. Clarity did play scummy rsoul, myself and others gave reasons why he had been scummy. then he didn't post anything. So it wouldn't have been a bad lynch and the fact it formed quickly is irrelevant to his alignment.
Do you disagree with the reasoning I laid out here:
On July 28 2015 23:43 Palmar wrote: The AWOLs and why we shouldn't lynch them.
Clarity and Onegu
Unfortunately we have two people not participating in the game. Both of those players are prime vigilante targets.
But the most important part is that there is no reason to actively really believe that either of them is mafia. We have no flipped blue roles so there's no real reason to doubt that Onegu is named townie, and while I wanted to lynch clarity yesterday for not contributing, his post tonight and the fact that HTS is looking for a replacement for this game probably means he's telling the truth that he can't play. It's a bit shitty I guess to talk about it, but it's the next thread to this one...
If time constraints stop him from contributing, that fully explains my main gripe with him, which was that clarity is a good player who is not trying to solve the game. Solving the game is much harder when you don't have time to solve the game.
So yeah, unless someone can bring up a real reason why one of the two is mafia, we're basically taking the easy way out by lynching them. If they happen to be town it'll be an idle lynch on a lurker, and I generally don't like those after day 1.
Like I'm not kidding about clarity, the reason I wanted to lynch him was I had just played with him in voice mafia where he was insightful, talkative and very committed to winning as a townie, and then there's literally nothing this game. But this is 100% explained by simply being absent this game.
It sucks, and if he's mafia I'm basically giving him a lurker pass for nothing, but I don't want to lynch him today.
Check/Shoot. Use the lynch on someone who might at least respond.
I agree it sucks. I still think it's a bad lynch. hopefully he'll just get modkilled for failing to vote by the end of the cycle and the problem goes away on itself.
On July 29 2015 08:27 Snickers wrote: its prty weird how palmar has so many posts to use as "references"
its also weird just how he goes about presenting them
I don't know what you mean with posts as references. I think I have plenty of posts left because I actually kind of consolidate my posts a bit.
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probably.
Like if everyone in town looks town we lynch clarity because that means no one is mafia based on analysis so we can lynch someone who is a shot in the dark but not helpful.
Ideally he dies in some other way or gets replaced by someone who actually plays.
Again, do you disagree with me that it'd be preferable to find an alternative lynch?
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On July 29 2015 08:41 GlowingBear wrote: Well, Palmar, I'm willing to let a lynch on you pass by this day. But I won't lynch clarity nor I'll lynch rsoultin today.
I would be okay with lynching hopeless today. I have no intention of lynching clarity as clearly stated in my post about the two people not playing. I've been clear on that for a while since he told us he couldn't play.
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On July 29 2015 08:49 Snickers wrote: no palmar i meant its weird how structured you have certain posts to say look at this in my filter it shows im town.
its looks really fucking planned out. No you see, the towny things in my filter just happen to be there ready for quoting because well... I am town.
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On July 29 2015 09:19 Hopeless1der wrote:man i dont want to have to try. you guys suck  Impress me baby.
And be warned, my alter ego is Shania Twain
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On July 29 2015 09:31 Onegu wrote: I told you my reason for wanting to lynch rsoul it is all tonal.
My second lynch at this point would be not sure really. Dont really like a clarity lynch. Could lynch Palmar I guess as a sheep and for wantting to lynch me over other people even though I really am like confirmed town at this point and to sheep rayn. But would lynch boxerfred over palmar for his shitty reason to jump on palmars shitty reasons to want to lynch me and clarity.
What happened to boxerfred btw I miss him. Comeback to me I miss you.
@Rsoul
DURRR UHHHHHH I DONT KNOW DURRR You're not reading the thread. I said I didn't want to lynch you and clarity.
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gb shows very few mafia traits.
The only one can also be a town trait, the one where he's bad and wrong a lot.
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also your vote count analysis thing is awful. Go back and look at a few games, if you're gonna accuse anyone of being mafia based on the votecount it'd have to be clarity, rsoultin or snickers for failing to do shit with their votes.
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Hey slam, can you fix the game please? These people broke it.
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Oh and you need to vote someone else slam, snickers is never mafia here.
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[b]##unvote ##vote rsoultin[b]
Reasoning is mostly PoE.
I don't want to lynch GB because he's been such an asshole. I have already at length discussed why I didn't want to lynch my strong townreads (scott and snickers) and the lurkers (onegu and slam). Hopeless is an unccd blue when we have none except the named townie so far so there is no reason to doubt it.
This leaves
Kelsier Boxer rsoultin OWS
They all have good shots of being mafia.
Boxer because I don't notice him (and I haven't had time to re-read him). Rsoultin because of her reaction to my fakeclaim (and rayn scumread her for some reason). OWS because he's been completely shit and useless throughout the game and just agrees with whatever the common sentiment is at that time (or at least I feel that way) and kelsier because he is somewhat lacking in effort and was way too annoyed at the beginning of the game.
Kelsier is the one I'd first remove from the equation, the remaining three I will support a lynch on all of them with a slight preference for rsoultin and OWS over boxer mostly because I don't feel I have anything scummy actually on boxer.
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also rsoultin still wants to lynch me even if she thinks I'm town. that's weird.
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On July 30 2015 06:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote: [b]##unvote ##vote rsoultin[b]
Reasoning is mostly PoE.
I don't want to lynch GB because he's been such an asshole. I have already at length discussed why I didn't want to lynch my strong townreads (scott and snickers) and the lurkers (onegu and slam). Hopeless is an unccd blue when we have none except the named townie so far so there is no reason to doubt it.
This leaves
Kelsier Boxer rsoultin OWS
They all have good shots of being mafia.
Boxer because I don't notice him (and I haven't had time to re-read him). Rsoultin because of her reaction to my fakeclaim (and rayn scumread her for some reason). OWS because he's been completely shit and useless throughout the game and just agrees with whatever the common sentiment is at that time (or at least I feel that way) and kelsier because he is somewhat lacking in effort and was way too annoyed at the beginning of the game.
Kelsier is the one I'd first remove from the equation, the remaining three I will support a lynch on all of them with a slight preference for rsoultin and OWS over boxer mostly because I don't feel I have anything scummy actually on boxer.
63/80 bullshit bring a fucking case or consolidate on the player who will protect your townread. it's that fucking simple. your vote is doing nothing
I already have a case. I still don't believe a townie would react this way to my thing.
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On July 30 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote: also rsoultin still wants to lynch me even if she thinks I'm town. that's weird. 64/80 i keep saying i have a strong townread on gb and i'm kinda townreading you but i could be wrong on you. there's nothing weird about it and you're not stupid enough to think otherwise. is english failing you? Yeah but why would you be wrong on me? This is like the most transparent I've played as town for months.
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On July 30 2015 06:15 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, stop calling me an asshole :/ I'm just calling you Mafia, I'm not slapping an old lady on a wheel chair in the face Yeah but you're being so wrong you might as well be hitting old ladies.
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On July 30 2015 05:26 rsoultin wrote: 53/80
i think scum is between
bf/scott/palmar/slam
i'm really not sure on which of these 4 are mafia but i have decent reasons to townread everyone else
I also have a massive problem with this post for obvious reasons.
scott is and will always be the towniest person in this game. He should never, ever be lynched.
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On July 30 2015 06:21 KelsierSC wrote: come on grow some balls and vote slam, you know it's good.
the only reason not to lynch him is snickers "logic" which is like playing chess with a monkey No, let's kill rsoultin. It's a much better kill.
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On July 30 2015 06:23 KelsierSC wrote: Like you can all walk around with your dick tucked between your legs and lynch GB , bf or whatever i because "oh i dont lke the other lynches" or you can take this one chance to be a legend and lynch the scum who claimed blue. You have the chance to be part of something big here, bigger than any of us did slam actually claim?
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On July 30 2015 06:33 GlowingBear wrote: Ok if you guys don't think I'm Mafia, it's time to consolidate or I'm dead Technically I'm okay with you dying. I don't really have any strong inclinations bf is mafia and you're a pita.
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