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I think I gave 3 good reasons why palmar is likely town this game
Plus the fake red check and follow up to it with rsol felt town. I feel pretty strongly he is town
@GB I noticed the first few points you raised but you have ignored other points that make palmar town. Plus point 4 palmar comes up with reasons to scum read rsol and then you say he has no original reasons to scum read people? That point 5 seems really stupid to me.
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On July 29 2015 03:18 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote: I think I gave 3 good reasons why palmar is likely town this game
Plus the fake red check and follow up to it with rsol felt town. I feel pretty strongly he is town
@GB I noticed the first few points you raised but you have ignored other points that make palmar town. Plus point 4 palmar comes up with reasons to scum read rsol and then you say he has no original reasons to scum read people? That point 5 seems really stupid to me. I do not ignore points that makes Palmar town. I just think they aren't enough to dismiss the strong scum read I'm having. The reason Palmar used to scumread rsoultin is very WIFOMy, man. I can easily see town thinking I'm the miller OR the claim is fake. You played Himalayas with me and you saw what my red check on holyflare caused. Other than this reaction bullshit, you can see that he is rehashing people's arguments. He even admitted it in his defense post, Kelsier. You can add to that that he is totally focused on rsoultin, forgetting about both you and clarity. He says he didn't forget, that he reevaluated. He reevaluated both of you? How? You didn't answer his reaction test thing.
ok if you think scott is town can you explain palmar's actions EOD ?
I think he said he was undecided on me actually but w/e
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On July 29 2015 03:31 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Kelsier, he gave you a townread and said he could lynch you over Scott, who he previously gave a scum read and changed it when it gained traction because Scott used excel.
Like, do you REALLY trust this?
hey it was your case on me that got him thinking that way =)
hmm let me think some more
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I also don't see someone who is down a mafia player, coming out and fake claiming cop, more likely play from a psychological standpoint is to try and not rock the boat.
I think he did scummy things D1, but I think his EOD actions and FT's play makes him town.
hopeless top lynch for me, clarity/GB come second.
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Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today
"forming quickly" is stupid
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On July 29 2015 08:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today
"forming quickly" is stupid Name me one reason why we should lynch clarity that cannot be explained by "he can't play the game".
I was responding to GB's comment that clarity can't be scum because the "wagon" formed too quickly. Clarity did play scummy rsoul, myself and others gave reasons why he had been scummy. then he didn't post anything. So it wouldn't have been a bad lynch and the fact it formed quickly is irrelevant to his alignment.
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On July 29 2015 08:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:On July 29 2015 08:19 Palmar wrote:On July 29 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote: Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today
"forming quickly" is stupid Name me one reason why we should lynch clarity that cannot be explained by "he can't play the game". I was responding to GB's comment that clarity can't be scum because the "wagon" formed too quickly. Clarity did play scummy rsoul, myself and others gave reasons why he had been scummy. then he didn't post anything. So it wouldn't have been a bad lynch and the fact it formed quickly is irrelevant to his alignment. Do you disagree with the reasoning I laid out here: Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 23:43 Palmar wrote: The AWOLs and why we shouldn't lynch them.
Clarity and Onegu
Unfortunately we have two people not participating in the game. Both of those players are prime vigilante targets.
But the most important part is that there is no reason to actively really believe that either of them is mafia. We have no flipped blue roles so there's no real reason to doubt that Onegu is named townie, and while I wanted to lynch clarity yesterday for not contributing, his post tonight and the fact that HTS is looking for a replacement for this game probably means he's telling the truth that he can't play. It's a bit shitty I guess to talk about it, but it's the next thread to this one...
If time constraints stop him from contributing, that fully explains my main gripe with him, which was that clarity is a good player who is not trying to solve the game. Solving the game is much harder when you don't have time to solve the game.
So yeah, unless someone can bring up a real reason why one of the two is mafia, we're basically taking the easy way out by lynching them. If they happen to be town it'll be an idle lynch on a lurker, and I generally don't like those after day 1.
Like I'm not kidding about clarity, the reason I wanted to lynch him was I had just played with him in voice mafia where he was insightful, talkative and very committed to winning as a townie, and then there's literally nothing this game. But this is 100% explained by simply being absent this game.
It sucks, and if he's mafia I'm basically giving him a lurker pass for nothing, but I don't want to lynch him today.
Check/Shoot. Use the lynch on someone who might at least respond. I agree it sucks. I still think it's a bad lynch. hopefully he'll just get modkilled for failing to vote by the end of the cycle and the problem goes away on itself. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 08:27 Snickers wrote: its prty weird how palmar has so many posts to use as "references"
its also weird just how he goes about presenting them I don't know what you mean with posts as references. I think I have plenty of posts left because I actually kind of consolidate my posts a bit. meh HTS will probably replace someone in at the EOD and the game will go to shit
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We should consolidate
Anyone who voted ft is off the table I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town.
So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices, I think Bf is town though. Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile. Le go
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On July 29 2015 22:34 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 21:34 KelsierSC wrote: We should consolidate
Anyone who voted ft is off the table I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town.
So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices, I think Bf is town though. Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile. Le go Fits profile, isn't scum. I'm the poster child for scummy town. why do you have bf as town? I'd like to lynch him
Can't quote but I liked his tone and his response to some questions. Plus his exasperation is understandable.
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On July 30 2015 03:03 Half the Sky wrote: Moderator Announcement: Please welcome Alakaslam to the Outback. He replaces Clarity_nl, effective immediately.
lol fuck this im out
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##Unvote
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late replacements make the game absolute shit
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On July 30 2015 03:11 GlowingBear wrote: No snickers. Impossible. There is nothing in there that makes you believe he is a role (even more, a PROTECTIVE role)
And I'm okay with being mislynched because I can't argue against stupidity. The only reason you guys are pointing out I could be a good lynch is based on associative reads. Boxerfred is the worst out of this, because he voted outside the wagon too.
Now, as I see Kelsier hard defending Palmae and that his play got worse and worse day2, and he simply votes whoever the wagon is, I will be voting him and if you want to lynch Mafia, vote him. If you want to mislynch, vote me. I really don't fucking care
even though I was confirmed town?
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just horrible to not read, jump on a post from like page 60 when there is a whole game to read and then waste your vote on someone no one is voting for.
Only reason not to lynch clarity was he was getting mod killed.
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On July 30 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:No it's not. He just threw away his vote on a safe wagon and left, literally the EXACT SAME THING he accused Slam of doing.
the wagon of just me?
I went out for a run and then showered. apparently slam is blue. great
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On July 30 2015 05:12 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote: 47/80
lol at least prof cancelled lab
wth are you people running around like chickens with your heads cut off? we have over 2 hours left before the lynch
order of business: - hopeless claimed cop. if you are the real cop and you're not ccing him, you are wrong - scott could be gf but statistically the chances are higher he's town assuming hope isn't cc'd. off the table in a 2 hr crunch - slam needs to hard claim jailer/banisher if he is one. he's getting shot tonight if he's town and doesn't claim it anyway, and it removes the ridiculous ambiguity snickers started in the first place
i am not lynching gb i'm not scum
if slam doesn't hard claim, i'm sorely tempted to lynch him, but will consider leaving it another day for him to get caught up
we need to discuss the lynch, be organized, and consolidate
i'm thinking bf but it's more poe than anything. what does everyone got? Why would he die tonight? The cop would die before him and he'll be roleblocked if anything. He's probably not getting lynched, why does it benefit town for him to claim?
mafia team has roleblocker?
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On July 30 2015 05:16 scott31337 wrote: They have one in every game I have played.
kk
I'm short of a scum hmmm
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On July 30 2015 05:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 05:20 Snickers wrote: If slam is the jailer and gb flips scum definitely jail Rsoul if a jailed mafia can't carry out a kill. 52/80 it would be a waste but i wouldn't mind being confirmed lol >< i seriously doubt gb flips scum, though. like i still think my read is baller
who is your 3rd mafia?
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On July 30 2015 05:26 rsoultin wrote: 53/80
i think scum is between
bf/scott/palmar/slam
i'm really not sure on which of these 4 are mafia but i have decent reasons to townread everyone else
not me? you can say me and we can still be friends
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On July 30 2015 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Where did palmar go? :/
wherever whores go
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