• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:36
CEST 01:36
KST 08:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202534Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 571 users

Mini Mafia Down Under 3 - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 18:09 GMT
#1046
I think I gave 3 good reasons why palmar is likely town this game

Plus the fake red check and follow up to it with rsol felt town. I feel pretty strongly he is town

@GB I noticed the first few points you raised but you have ignored other points that make palmar town. Plus point 4 palmar comes up with reasons to scum read rsol and then you say he has no original reasons to scum read people? That point 5 seems really stupid to me.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#1048
On July 29 2015 03:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote:
I think I gave 3 good reasons why palmar is likely town this game

Plus the fake red check and follow up to it with rsol felt town. I feel pretty strongly he is town

@GB I noticed the first few points you raised but you have ignored other points that make palmar town. Plus point 4 palmar comes up with reasons to scum read rsol and then you say he has no original reasons to scum read people? That point 5 seems really stupid to me.


I do not ignore points that makes Palmar town. I just think they aren't enough to dismiss the strong scum read I'm having.

The reason Palmar used to scumread rsoultin is very WIFOMy, man. I can easily see town thinking I'm the miller OR the claim is fake. You played Himalayas with me and you saw what my red check on holyflare caused.

Other than this reaction bullshit, you can see that he is rehashing people's arguments. He even admitted it in his defense post, Kelsier.

You can add to that that he is totally focused on rsoultin, forgetting about both you and clarity. He says he didn't forget, that he reevaluated. He reevaluated both of you? How? You didn't answer his reaction test thing.


ok if you think scott is town can you explain palmar's actions EOD ?

I think he said he was undecided on me actually but w/e



Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 18:33 GMT
#1051
On July 29 2015 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Kelsier, he gave you a townread and said he could lynch you over Scott, who he previously gave a scum read and changed it when it gained traction because Scott used excel.

Like, do you REALLY trust this?


hey it was your case on me that got him thinking that way =)

hmm let me think some more

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 18:46 GMT
#1052
I also don't see someone who is down a mafia player, coming out and fake claiming cop, more likely play from a psychological standpoint is to try and not rock the boat.

I think he did scummy things D1, but I think his EOD actions and FT's play makes him town.

hopeless top lynch for me, clarity/GB come second.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 21:54 GMT
#1077
Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today

"forming quickly" is stupid
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 23:26 GMT
#1083
On July 29 2015 08:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today

"forming quickly" is stupid

Name me one reason why we should lynch clarity that cannot be explained by "he can't play the game".


I was responding to GB's comment that clarity can't be scum because the "wagon" formed too quickly. Clarity did play scummy rsoul, myself and others gave reasons why he had been scummy. then he didn't post anything. So it wouldn't have been a bad lynch and the fact it formed quickly is irrelevant to his alignment.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 28 2015 23:36 GMT
#1086
On July 29 2015 08:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 29 2015 08:19 Palmar wrote:
On July 29 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity would have been a fine lynch yesterday and is a good lynch today

"forming quickly" is stupid

Name me one reason why we should lynch clarity that cannot be explained by "he can't play the game".


I was responding to GB's comment that clarity can't be scum because the "wagon" formed too quickly. Clarity did play scummy rsoul, myself and others gave reasons why he had been scummy. then he didn't post anything. So it wouldn't have been a bad lynch and the fact it formed quickly is irrelevant to his alignment.


Do you disagree with the reasoning I laid out here:

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 23:43 Palmar wrote:
The AWOLs and why we shouldn't lynch them.

Clarity and Onegu

Unfortunately we have two people not participating in the game. Both of those players are prime vigilante targets.

But the most important part is that there is no reason to actively really believe that either of them is mafia. We have no flipped blue roles so there's no real reason to doubt that Onegu is named townie, and while I wanted to lynch clarity yesterday for not contributing, his post tonight and the fact that HTS is looking for a replacement for this game probably means he's telling the truth that he can't play. It's a bit shitty I guess to talk about it, but it's the next thread to this one...

If time constraints stop him from contributing, that fully explains my main gripe with him, which was that clarity is a good player who is not trying to solve the game. Solving the game is much harder when you don't have time to solve the game.

So yeah, unless someone can bring up a real reason why one of the two is mafia, we're basically taking the easy way out by lynching them. If they happen to be town it'll be an idle lynch on a lurker, and I generally don't like those after day 1.

Like I'm not kidding about clarity, the reason I wanted to lynch him was I had just played with him in voice mafia where he was insightful, talkative and very committed to winning as a townie, and then there's literally nothing this game. But this is 100% explained by simply being absent this game.

It sucks, and if he's mafia I'm basically giving him a lurker pass for nothing, but I don't want to lynch him today.

Check/Shoot. Use the lynch on someone who might at least respond.


I agree it sucks. I still think it's a bad lynch. hopefully he'll just get modkilled for failing to vote by the end of the cycle and the problem goes away on itself.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 08:27 Snickers wrote:
its prty weird how palmar has so many posts to use as "references"

its also weird just how he goes about presenting them


I don't know what you mean with posts as references. I think I have plenty of posts left because I actually kind of consolidate my posts a bit.

meh HTS will probably replace someone in at the EOD and the game will go to shit
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 12:34 GMT
#1184
We should consolidate

Anyone who voted ft is off the table
I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town.

So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices,
I think Bf is town though.
Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile.
Le go
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 14:16 GMT
#1193
On July 29 2015 22:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:34 KelsierSC wrote:
We should consolidate

Anyone who voted ft is off the table
I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town.

So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices,
I think Bf is town though.
Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile.
Le go

Fits profile, isn't scum. I'm the poster child for scummy town.
why do you have bf as town? I'd like to lynch him


Can't quote but I liked his tone and his response to some questions. Plus his exasperation is understandable.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 18:04 GMT
#1247
On July 30 2015 03:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Moderator Announcement:
Please welcome Alakaslam to the Outback. He replaces Clarity_nl, effective immediately.


lol fuck this im out
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 18:05 GMT
#1250
##Unvote


##Vote Glowingbear
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 18:07 GMT
#1255
late replacements make the game absolute shit
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 18:30 GMT
#1278
On July 30 2015 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
No snickers. Impossible. There is nothing in there that makes you believe he is a role (even more, a PROTECTIVE role)

And I'm okay with being mislynched because I can't argue against stupidity. The only reason you guys are pointing out I could be a good lynch is based on associative reads. Boxerfred is the worst out of this, because he voted outside the wagon too.

Now, as I see Kelsier hard defending Palmae and that his play got worse and worse day2, and he simply votes whoever the wagon is, I will be voting him and if you want to lynch Mafia, vote him. If you want to mislynch, vote me. I really don't fucking care


even though I was confirmed town?

good one
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 18:37 GMT
#1280
just horrible to not read, jump on a post from like page 60 when there is a whole game to read and then waste your vote on someone no one is voting for.

Only reason not to lynch clarity was he was getting mod killed.

##unvote

##vote Alakaslam
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#1296
On July 30 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 04:29 boxerfred wrote:
that's bullshit obi

go lynch gb


No it's not.
He just threw away his vote on a safe wagon and left, literally the EXACT SAME THING he accused Slam of doing.


the wagon of just me?

I went out for a run and then showered. apparently slam is blue. great

##unvote

##vote GlowingBear
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 20:14 GMT
#1308
On July 30 2015 05:12 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
47/80

lol at least prof cancelled lab

wth are you people running around like chickens with your heads cut off? we have over 2 hours left before the lynch

order of business:
- hopeless claimed cop. if you are the real cop and you're not ccing him, you are wrong
- scott could be gf but statistically the chances are higher he's town assuming hope isn't cc'd. off the table in a 2 hr crunch
- slam needs to hard claim jailer/banisher if he is one. he's getting shot tonight if he's town and doesn't claim it anyway, and it removes the ridiculous ambiguity snickers started in the first place

i am not lynching gb
i'm not scum

if slam doesn't hard claim, i'm sorely tempted to lynch him, but will consider leaving it another day for him to get caught up

we need to discuss the lynch, be organized, and consolidate

i'm thinking bf but it's more poe than anything. what does everyone got?

Why would he die tonight? The cop would die before him and he'll be roleblocked if anything. He's probably not getting lynched, why does it benefit town for him to claim?


mafia team has roleblocker?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 20:17 GMT
#1310
On July 30 2015 05:16 scott31337 wrote:
They have one in every game I have played.


kk

I'm short of a scum hmmm

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 20:24 GMT
#1316
On July 30 2015 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 05:20 Snickers wrote:
If slam is the jailer and gb flips scum definitely jail Rsoul if a jailed mafia can't carry out a kill.


52/80

it would be a waste but i wouldn't mind being confirmed lol ><

i seriously doubt gb flips scum, though. like i still think my read is baller


who is your 3rd mafia?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 20:28 GMT
#1318
On July 30 2015 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
53/80

i think scum is between

bf/scott/palmar/slam

i'm really not sure on which of these 4 are mafia but i have decent reasons to townread everyone else


not me? you can say me and we can still be friends
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 29 2015 20:30 GMT
#1320
On July 30 2015 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Where did palmar go?
:/


wherever whores go
Zerg for Life
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 265
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 282
firebathero 64
Aegong 46
Sexy 42
Dota 2
syndereN615
monkeys_forever322
League of Legends
Grubby3531
JimRising 498
Reynor97
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K600
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox586
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor186
Other Games
tarik_tv22108
summit1g11809
gofns10849
shahzam425
ViBE36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1088
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH184
• davetesta52
• RyuSc2 48
• tFFMrPink 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21761
Other Games
• imaqtpie1234
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 25m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14h 25m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
16h 25m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 11h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.