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On July 27 2015 03:20 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you do not even go through his reads to figure out if they are good or bad you just point out the act as scummy? I will admit, I agree with some of his recent reads. However, when I was online, all of his posts were trash and he had no redeeming posts. See for yourself. What reads of his have changed since then? And what posts exactly are redeeming from him?
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On July 27 2015 03:43 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote: 13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that. Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Scott who are the scummy people you were talking about who were voting for Hopeless at that time? Clarity was the suspicious voter I was referring to - Hopeless looks better now. Why do you use a plural instead of referring only to Clarity?
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i am also considering lynching kelsier. idk yet, i want FT and scott to talk first.
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Like i think GB's point 2 is okay. I also don't understand how Kelsier is still saying Cava misrepped him. Because he answered "that's how he read it to mean". So in his world Cava should be either lying (which should make him mafia) or KElsier's suspicion should not exist. He somehow takes the middle road, and idk why.
On FT, i don't really know if i believe he actually ever thought Palmar was mafia, mainly because when you think someone is mafia you read their posts closely. FT is clearly not doing that, because if he was, he would see that: 1) Palmar's top scumread has been scott all game. 2) none of Palmar's reads have ever notably changed, while FT kinda claims they have when he says his "latest" reads. Why would you use a word "latest", when latest is the same than "before"? 3) Palmar has scott as his top scumread, yet Palmar's vote is on me. If FT thinks Palmar is mafia, given his reasoning for like everything he has said in the game, i think that in his mindset he SHOULD call Palmar out for this contradiction. yet he doesn't.
Also still waiting on Scott to answer me.
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On July 27 2015 03:46 FirmTofu wrote: Let's be clear. I'm not saying Palmar is town or even a townread for me. Just that his last few posts are redeeming and I am okay with not lynching him.
On July 27 2015 04:05 FirmTofu wrote: To your third point, you are assuming I still think Palmar is mafia. I don't anymore and what Palmar did isn't even necessarily a contradiction. His vote in that circumstance looks more like pressure than an actual vote to lynch you. Okay vote stands.
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There are things that make people town or mafia. Palmar did things that make him mafia to FT. Then he did some other things. Those other things should either make him a townread, not null (like idk, he seems to be saying here, unless he is saying Palmar is still scummy).
Based on what FT said about Palmar earlier i don't believe he actually thinks Palmar did townie things (since he was pretty much just clarifying his reads and/or saying new stuff which changed nothing), or if he does, it should make him think Palmar is town, because he is now doing things against FT's original case.
I am bad at explaining shit, he is mafia.
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Palmar are you sure Kelsier is more likely to be mafia than FT is? I have to get up at 4am, i am going soon, i need your input.
I hate rsoultin is not here and Clarity is probably scum.
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goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!?
why is noone i expect to play is playing?
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because his filter is trash tbh.
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On July 27 2015 04:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing?  i need you to articulate it better for me, rayn how is the thought process contradictory? his explanation for it (palmar having new reads on people he was actually interested in) seemed okay? granted, it's obvious palmar won't be lynched and it's pretty coincidental that he doesn't seem to think he's scum anymore i can't find the words. it doesn't make sense. he is scum.
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but i don't want to lynch clarity
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On July 27 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote: why not clarity, rayn? i really think he's scum :/ I ma not sure about it. I am not sure about Kelsier being mafia.
I actually think you and Palmar are more likely to be mafia.
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On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote: Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect. And this doesn't make any fucking sense at all.
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So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?
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Kelsier and GlowingBear STOP! You are both town. Focus for fucks sake.
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I fail to see why i should think you are town Palmar.
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On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar.
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On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote: Calling this game now. Mafia team is me, rsoultin, and Palmar. It's just so perfect.
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On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. proof or it didn't happen i trust myself i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town? here is why rsoultin is mafia.
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Me being whatever (i am actually good) at reading her is not a reason to doubt my read on Palmar. Those two things are unrelated. She is using an argument that has nothing to do with what i say about Palmar to discredit me.
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