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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 18:08 GMT
#2218
On August 10 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


On July 25 2015 22:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me.
/shrug
I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved.


On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


Iuno.
Like.
I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott.

I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post.
Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still.


On July 27 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On phone.
Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft.
Also hi.


On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.

My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.

I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death.


On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind?


I said I wanted to lynch both of them.


On July 27 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind?


I said I wanted to lynch both of them.


I know, it was just scott was scum and ft was a "probably" so just curious why you voted that way.


/shrug
I don't actually have much of a preference between the two.

Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage.


On July 27 2015 06:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
lol

ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott

look, obi...yeah he's afkish

but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone

then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?

we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't


I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch.
I just feel very confident in my FT read.


On July 27 2015 06:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game.
How did he become town and then mafia again?


On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


On July 27 2015 06:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_-


He's been doing this all game lmfao.



okay, these are all the mentions of scott d1 in ows' filter, and this is what had me going i might be wrong on obi last night (i think i included the relevant posts on tofu as well? but probably best just to reread the pages leading up to the lynch to get the full context in case i missed anything)

here it's clear that he's more than willing to lynch scott, ye?

if you look at the voting from d1, there was a strong train on ft

some key points:
- clarity was afk; there was going to be no help from that quarter, and there's a distinct possibility that they didn't know he'd be afk all day like that
- palmar was never voting scott
- i'd already said i'd vote ft over scott
- snickers was afk

most of the other players showed no interest in voting scott over ft, either, unless they were already on the scott wagon

i'm not saying this makes ows scum, but i am saying that by EoD he couldn't switch to scott even if he wanted to, and the fact that he kept bringing scott up makes it likely that he would have if he were scum...if it was actually an option to save ft

but given the votes and the opinions of those voting, it wasn't


call me scum ows ^^

the posts are in the spoiler, every time you mentioned scott d1


You're doing an excellent job of pissing me off.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 18:10 GMT
#2219
I'm taking a break.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 20:37 GMT
#2223
Currently in the middle of a reread, fyi.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 21:42 GMT
#2226
On August 10 2015 06:16 Onegu wrote:
Im not going to reread. Yeah not going to happen...


It's pretty arduous.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 22:31 GMT
#2228
Rso can you do me a favor and do some self-evaluation for me?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 22:35 GMT
#2230
Meh, nevermind.
I was going to ask for some self-meta but that's probably going to be useless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 22:50 GMT
#2231
On August 10 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
well, oneg, i get that you'd like to be the hero who first lynched scum!rsoul

that's not what's happening this game, though

explain to me what my scum motivation was in slam's lynch? or even in the d1 lynch? tell me straight how you can even begin to rationalize i'm scum here

we can win this if you're willing to set aside your obstinance lol >< otherwise...eh, i kinda deserve getting mislynched in lylo for being so horrible and misleading town 3 lynches in a row. would rather win, though. shame to throw this game away after lynching scum d1 and d2


I thought he already explained this.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 22:54 GMT
#2233
Uh huh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 03:04 GMT
#2235
On August 10 2015 12:01 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
well, oneg, i get that you'd like to be the hero who first lynched scum!rsoul

that's not what's happening this game, though

explain to me what my scum motivation was in slam's lynch? or even in the d1 lynch? tell me straight how you can even begin to rationalize i'm scum here

we can win this if you're willing to set aside your obstinance lol >< otherwise...eh, i kinda deserve getting mislynched in lylo for being so horrible and misleading town 3 lynches in a row. would rather win, though. shame to throw this game away after lynching scum d1 and d2



Bus someone who was going to die anyway...

Also you shouldnt be alive over palmar... Like if you are town you just shouldnt as he was pushing for your and my lynch. Why does scum obi shoot him there. And like if I am scum I shoot you %1000 just so I can spoil you that I shot you... So like it doesnt make sense...


Bleh, this is a good post.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 03:06 GMT
#2236
Onegu, if you were mafia, who would you have voted on day 1?
Serious question.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 03:18 GMT
#2239
On August 10 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu, if you were mafia, who would you have voted on day 1?
Serious question.


worthless question

wifom question

do something productive

you're not town ^^ at the very least i can be right when onegu lynches me cause he's a 'tard ^^


It's literally not worthless at all.
Go away.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:02 GMT
#2244
On August 10 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
I'm reading the run up to day 1 (with no filters I guess reading parts of the game makes some sort of sense).

OWS is on the FT wagon all the time but seems to be willing to switch to scott. He even defends FT at some point (but he still just keeps his vote on him).

I don't think it's particularly scummy by OWS but meh.

rsoultin does simply sound like she's a lot more invested in the game at that point than OWS. Boxerfred also says some shit that might even be sort of scummy, but he also sounded really townie when under pressure

I still think we should vote OWS.


^

you wanted your reason, oneg

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:34 Palmar wrote:
I'm almost okay with losing to rsoultin if she's mafia.


^

palmar was going to lynch me? lol ><

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 22:22 Palmar wrote:
Scott firstpost analysis

On July 25 2015 07:01 scott31337 wrote:
FIRST
CONFTOWN


On July 25 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:
GB are you my friend?


First player to post in the game. Caps indicate excitement. Knowing there's only 1 mafia left he and GB cannot be a team so the name seems to be picked at random. Feels like a townie entrance.

On July 25 2015 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Bleep bloop.

Bad first post. Not saying anything, almost posting just to post. Way scummier than scott.


On July 25 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Hard claiming confirmed town


On July 25 2015 07:24 Onegu wrote:
As in I am Named town


Claim, very hard to read tone into such a factual post. Probably going to be town because we have no other blue roles.

On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


Bunch of useless stuff in there that's kinda scummy. I also dislike the extra "uu" in scum. feels off tonewise, as if intended to be a joke. Her next post continues the same theme "I'm totally serious rayn is mafia he scumslipped" in what feels a very sarcastic manner.

On July 25 2015 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:
GB are you my friend?


I'M TOWN, BIATCH!


Extra "A" in bitch seems ott. I don't know, this one is null to me.


meh that was useless.

rsoultin/gb/ows was the pool of candidates anyway.

Unless Onegu just lucked out and we have no blues in the game he decided to claim one.


^ palmar's last reads




so basically you're telling me that i decided to kill palmar not when he was hyper tunneling me and i had ksc pocketed prettily if i were scum, but when he stopped fucking tunneling me and was working with me on the game?!

you know who does benefit? the guy palmar was talking about lynching. i was still defending ows. why wouldn't ows kill palmar over me as scum in that situation

i get you're not used to playing without filters, oneg, but this is exactly why people read the game

then they actually have a sense for what was happening during each phase -_-


Gb brought up the same thing and I said the same thing to him:
Palmar changed his read on me and was basically townreading me by the time of his death.

So good job.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:04 GMT
#2246
Anyhoezels. I am going to bed.
I'm leaning towards voting rso, will sleep on it.

Onegu, I hope you'll talk to me at some point about things because I don't really like the fact that you're not engaging me but I think it's more likely you're town than rso is at this point. Deadline IS tomorrow.

Gn.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:04 GMT
#2247
On August 10 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
nope ^^ i was just in his filter


You are wrong.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:07 GMT
#2251
On August 10 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
I've changed my mind again now I want to lynch BF


okay ye this was about you and doesn't show up in a ctrl+f

but his last reads were literally his last post and this was obvious before bf flipped scum

it doesn't negate that you were keeping your options open with scott

-shrugs-

you ever going to decide who is scum, ows? do anything at all productive in lylo? do you even care who scum is? certainly doesn't seem like it


No, you're actually missing the point completely where Palmar said my decision to vote Ft for the correct reasons was actually towny.
I'm relatively certain you had a conversation about it.
Your narrative on scott is still garbage.
I also just said I wanted to vote you.

I can feel you trying to make this work with all of your might, but it's just not coming together. T.T
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#2253
On August 10 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
lol >> i knew he'd try to weasel his way into scumreading me

but here he is waiting for you to bring a point, sheeping it and pretending his read changed for that one post. yeah, sure

come on oneg you can't be blind to this -_- why do i not just happily vote you with obi if i'm scum?

easy win, i laugh at you trying to lynch me


Because he wasn't voting me after he realized that I was the one who voted FT.
Is this for real?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:12 GMT
#2257
On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote:
@obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft...


Well
Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:16 GMT
#2261
Much rhetoric.
Many townie.
Wowe.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:18 GMT
#2262
On August 10 2015 13:15 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote:
@obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft...


Well
Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario?



I might have if I was GF... But dunno still think I might try to save active scum over inactive scum. I still get cred for lynching scum there


Theoretically, this makes sense.
Why does Gf take so much priority in your analysis?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 04:24 GMT
#2266
On August 10 2015 13:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 13:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:15 Onegu wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote:
@obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft...


Well
Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario?



I might have if I was GF... But dunno still think I might try to save active scum over inactive scum. I still get cred for lynching scum there


Theoretically, this makes sense.
Why does Gf take so much priority in your analysis?



Because if it is goon/goon/framer you have no defense against a cop who I would guess was in the game. Because I doubt HtS would run a all vanilla setup since HF just did and slams game was going to be all vanilla


Okay, I suppose.
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