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On August 09 2015 02:43 rsoultin wrote:ya know what? i'm not gonna do the silent thing scum is ows gb toneread is too good plus i stand by my initial read. it's too similar to the palmar read on snickers that palmar somehow never realized i made long before he did lol >< some reactions simply aren't natural onegu is town because balance, because blue role, because this is his town meta, because he's bold enough to switch wagons over if he wants to, and because he's not trying and no matter how often he says that he'll try to break his meta as scum, i no more believe he's capable of ignoring the game as his favorite role than the rest of us are capable of doing it as towni apologize to everyone for letting obi pocket me. he's been blatantly sheeping me all game and i've been one of his only advocates. i don't know why it's taken me this long to become bothered by him constantly sticking up for me ever time someone scumreads me, except i guess because...well..i feel like i should be unquestionably townread lynch obi if i'm not around i suspect the nk ends up being gb, however, cause oneg lol >< ye, obi...have fun with this one  i could have waited but blah
that's the main reason i'm townreading him
his play at the start of the day phase was excited, like he thought he'd caught you out and tricked you lol >< that he then reconsidered after rereading d1...it's just the way he's been approaching this phase in general doesn't seem very scumlike to me. he's interested, probing, changing his mind based on new information, and yes he doesn't seem to be playing to survive
all you did was get mad
as if my reads are ever based on just one thing -snorts-
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also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >>
i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner
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On August 10 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >> i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner
Except I wouldn't have:
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that.
:/
I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from.
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As for not playing to survive - since when has scum!Oneg played to survive? I even showed you that game: he played recklessly and confidently, which isn't consistent with "not playing to survive." Still not outside his wheelhouse, but it still fits into how you're reading him as town.
:/
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On August 10 2015 00:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >> i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner Except I wouldn't have: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. :/ I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from.
as scum you would have already determined that you couldn't save scott by the time you wrote that post. it was already in the post! this is "evidence"?
in your posts preceding that you clearly were fine with either lynch -shrugs-
and yes
of course oneg, in lylo, as the last scum, plays to survive because that's how he wins. you're not this daft
lol so when are you going to find a way to try to say i'm scum and vote for me, ows? i've been waaaaaaiting ^^
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bueno couldn't save ft by lynching scott lol thoughts getting ahead of my fingers. you know what i mean
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On August 10 2015 00:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 00:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 10 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >> i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner Except I wouldn't have: On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. :/ I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from. as scum you would have already determined that you couldn't save scott by the time you wrote that post. it was already in the post! this is "evidence"? in your posts preceding that you clearly were fine with either lynch -shrugs- and yes of course oneg, in lylo, as the last scum, plays to survive because that's how he wins. you're not this daft lol so when are you going to find a way to try to say i'm scum and vote for me, ows? i've been waaaaaaiting ^^
Yes, it is "evidence" that I wanted to lynch FT over scott. You saying I'm fine with either lynch and then saying that I would have switched when I said I wouldn't switch is literally the exact opposite of what you're saying.
Your bit on calling onegu town for not playing to survive is still a weak narrative when faced with conclusive evidence that shows that he won't play EXACTLY the way you're saying he will as scum.
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vote me then ows ^^
i'm not going to argue in circles with you
i'm saying this weakens your voting on ft d1. no more. no less. i think oneg looks more townie than you. in part because of that lynch. in part because of how he approached this day phase and what i know of his play
you can pretend to be dull and not realize that being the last scum in lylo is different than fake-claiming vig and openly shooting the towniest player when he still had scummates and it wasn't lylo
prove to me oneg is scummier than you are. that's the only way i change my vote
or find a way to say i'm scum and vote me -shrugs- those are your only options
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God not having filters is killing esports.
So a few things confusing me here. Like why the Palmar NK over a town Rsoul? Like iirc he was pushing for Rsoul and my lynches. So if Obi is scum why the NK on him over Rsoul no offense to Palmar but when he is town he is good day 1 or like not at all.
Second still the day 1 votes. Not attempting to save FT. Like rsoul said something about clairty not being there and possible that scum didnt know it but I thought he posted in thread that he was leaving. I dont know the timing of that though and I am really lazy to look.
Bleh also losing to a scum rsoul would like make me drink myself into oblivion. So honestly I really want to lynch her just so I am 100% sure I dont lose to a scum rsoul...
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That being said Obi trying to look at only one of my previous scum games and not the ones where I made it to lylo as scum and trying to control the narrative that way is really weird...
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On August 10 2015 02:28 Onegu wrote:
That being said Obi trying to look at only one of my previous scum games and not the ones where I made it to lylo as scum and trying to control the narrative that way is really weird...
It's the only time I've had experience with you playing scum.
Which ones should I look at to contest that?
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Furthermore, that's not really conducive to the point I was making.
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On August 10 2015 02:25 Onegu wrote:
God not having filters is killing esports.
So a few things confusing me here. Like why the Palmar NK over a town Rsoul? Like iirc he was pushing for Rsoul and my lynches. So if Obi is scum why the NK on him over Rsoul no offense to Palmar but when he is town he is good day 1 or like not at all.
Second still the day 1 votes. Not attempting to save FT. Like rsoul said something about clairty not being there and possible that scum didnt know it but I thought he posted in thread that he was leaving. I dont know the timing of that though and I am really lazy to look.
Bleh also losing to a scum rsoul would like make me drink myself into oblivion. So honestly I really want to lynch her just so I am 100% sure I dont lose to a scum rsoul...
i'm town because i'm town and because i started the lynch on slam that otherwise would have been an uncontested mislynch between bf/gb, both now confirmed town
this is irrefutable
this i would never do as scum
read the thread around the d1 vote onegu. if clarity is not there, how does obi get scott lynched with palmar and myself not voting scott, snickers gone and clarity gone?
and most likely i'm still alive because i've been hard-defending obi since n2 when others wanted to lynch him -_- while leading mislynches on 3 town players. but that's just conjecture
palmar also majorly picked up the day he got shot lol i was so happy he was actually playing and i wasn't dragging this town around by myself
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Still talking about me trying to lynch scott while I was hardpushing Ft?
Cute.
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On August 10 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all. On July 25 2015 22:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me.
/shrug
I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved. On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me? Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that? @GB re kelsier I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today. Iuno. Like. I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott. I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post. Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still. On July 27 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On phone.
Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft.
Also hi. On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.
My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.
I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death. On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind? I said I wanted to lynch both of them. On July 27 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:30 KelsierSC wrote:On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind? I said I wanted to lynch both of them. I know, it was just scott was scum and ft was a "probably" so just curious why you voted that way. /shrug I don't actually have much of a preference between the two. Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage. On July 27 2015 06:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
lol
ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott
look, obi...yeah he's afkish
but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone
then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?
we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch. I just feel very confident in my FT read. On July 27 2015 06:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game.
How did he become town and then mafia again? On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. On July 27 2015 06:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_- He's been doing this all game lmfao. okay, these are all the mentions of scott d1 in ows' filter, and this is what had me going i might be wrong on obi last night (i think i included the relevant posts on tofu as well? but probably best just to reread the pages leading up to the lynch to get the full context in case i missed anything) here it's clear that he's more than willing to lynch scott, ye? if you look at the voting from d1, there was a strong train on ft some key points: - clarity was afk; there was going to be no help from that quarter, and there's a distinct possibility that they didn't know he'd be afk all day like that - palmar was never voting scott - i'd already said i'd vote ft over scott - snickers was afk most of the other players showed no interest in voting scott over ft, either, unless they were already on the scott wagon i'm not saying this makes ows scum, but i am saying that by EoD he couldn't switch to scott even if he wanted to, and the fact that he kept bringing scott up makes it likely that he would have if he were scum...if it was actually an option to save ft but given the votes and the opinions of those voting, it wasn't
call me scum ows ^^
the posts are in the spoiler, every time you mentioned scott d1
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Onegu, talk to me.
What did you think of what I said about rso saying you don't play recklessly as scum? All you commented on was the fact that I looked at a single scumgame of yours, which kind of wasn't the point of what I was saying.
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On August 10 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all. On July 25 2015 22:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me.
/shrug
I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved. On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me? Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that? @GB re kelsier I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today. Iuno. Like. I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott. I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post. Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still. On July 27 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On phone.
Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft.
Also hi. On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.
My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.
I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death. On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind? I said I wanted to lynch both of them. On July 27 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:30 KelsierSC wrote:On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind? I said I wanted to lynch both of them. I know, it was just scott was scum and ft was a "probably" so just curious why you voted that way. /shrug I don't actually have much of a preference between the two. Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage. On July 27 2015 06:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
lol
ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott
look, obi...yeah he's afkish
but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone
then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?
we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch. I just feel very confident in my FT read. On July 27 2015 06:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game.
How did he become town and then mafia again? On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. On July 27 2015 06:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_- He's been doing this all game lmfao. okay, these are all the mentions of scott d1 in ows' filter, and this is what had me going i might be wrong on obi last night (i think i included the relevant posts on tofu as well? but probably best just to reread the pages leading up to the lynch to get the full context in case i missed anything) here it's clear that he's more than willing to lynch scott, ye? if you look at the voting from d1, there was a strong train on ft some key points: - clarity was afk; there was going to be no help from that quarter, and there's a distinct possibility that they didn't know he'd be afk all day like that - palmar was never voting scott - i'd already said i'd vote ft over scott - snickers was afk most of the other players showed no interest in voting scott over ft, either, unless they were already on the scott wagon i'm not saying this makes ows scum, but i am saying that by EoD he couldn't switch to scott even if he wanted to, and the fact that he kept bringing scott up makes it likely that he would have if he were scum...if it was actually an option to save ft but given the votes and the opinions of those voting, it wasn't call me scum ows ^^ the posts are in the spoiler, every time you mentioned scott d1
You're doing an excellent job of pissing me off.
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I do play recklessly as scum, I make big plays. But not all the time and when I am the last scum alive I really tone it down. Desert is a good example of this. Like if I was scum here the only big play you can say I made was the claim and I think I would have done it like generic and just made blue softs until I was more sure.
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