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Hm. Sidenote:
Trying to formulate my thoughts on Damdred is harder than expected. Reread the Shadow QT from Holy Guardians and realized that we were actually not talking much in there. I can see some similarities in his play in Holy Guardians, but I am not sure if that is actually enough to call it a read. =/
Gaiden felt different because he was pretty pushy towards LS from an early stage. I am not sure if this is normal for his mafia play. Maybe he only did this because LS is a very good target for mafia to push early on, since he has the habit of claiming PR's super fast. Which is also what happened in Gaiden.
I am getting the feeling I should concentrate more on his play this game...
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On July 26 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
I think mages is probably the best shot honestly.
I think your wrong on moose
What is your town lean (I guess it is a lean) on moose based on? Skimmed your filter and didn't see you explain it.
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Some notes:
TBH I think Flexes disappearance could also have been something RL related or something. Like he disappears mid-sentence and doesn't even return to vote. Wouldn't be surprised if he ware to replace out or gets modkilled. So he feels a bit more like a policy lunch to me than actual scum.
I don't like how Sulfurus has not answered my questions regarding his Damdred and MoosyDoosy reads twice now. But instead he makes sorta a case on n00bKing. Though n00bKing is the #3 scum on his initial list...
Need to read some filters and look at some ppl again.
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On July 26 2015 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 23:03 disformation wrote:
TBH I think Flexes disappearance could also have been something RL related or something. Like he disappears mid-sentence and doesn't even return to vote. Wouldn't be surprised if he ware to replace out or gets modkilled. So he feels a bit more like a policy lunch to me than actual scum.
Flexes would have already been replaced if he had some RL-related problem. Unless he hasn't PM'd the hosts, which is his own fault. Basically do not count on someone getting replaced.
Fair enough. Won't be sad if he gets vig shot. =/
MoosyDoosy :
Skimmed your filter. You had some interactions with Breshke D1, what is your conclusion on Breshke?
You mentioned that you want to build a town circle. Who is in your town circle?
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Went through MoosyDoosy's filter. Was that happy about his D1. See my earlier questions. Was initially happier when he posted his town circle. Less happy when Damdred pointed out some inconsistencies.
Waiting to see n00bKing's reads.
Want to see more from NocturneMage.
Need to reread Rels, TT and Breshke.
So happy I do not need to read sicklucker's filter like 3 times a day this game. xD
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Mh. Got kinda ninjaed by MoosyDoosy, Both his town circle and his PoE list look rather agreeable and is probably something town would avoid to post like this.
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On July 27 2015 05:39 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:26 disformation wrote:
Mh. Got kinda ninjaed by MoosyDoosy, Both his town circle and his PoE list look rather agreeable and is probably something town would avoid to post like this. ? Do you mean scum would avoid posting it, instead of town? Otherwise, I can't figure out that sentence.
I feel like scum would leave itself with more null or "unsure on that guy" reads in order to have some room to wiggle around later on. E.g. could I see scum cutting 1-2 ppl from your town circle and be like "eh I have a slight lean, need to reread". So they can jump onto them if someone makes a good case or something. And/Or overall more waffly reads.
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On July 27 2015 05:53 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:50 disformation wrote:On July 27 2015 05:39 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 04:26 disformation wrote:
Mh. Got kinda ninjaed by MoosyDoosy, Both his town circle and his PoE list look rather agreeable and is probably something town would avoid to post like this. ? Do you mean scum would avoid posting it, instead of town? Otherwise, I can't figure out that sentence. I feel like scum would leave itself with more null or "unsure on that guy" reads in order to have some room to wiggle around later on. E.g. could I see scum cutting 1-2 ppl from your town circle and be like "eh I have a slight lean, need to reread". So they can jump onto them if someone makes a good case or something. And/Or overall more waffly reads. So the answer is yes, you meant "scum" where you put "town?" If so, everything makes sense.
Oh lol. yes!
Didn't see that. xD
Sorry I am kinda tired. xD
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On July 26 2015 23:03 disformation wrote:
Some notes:
TBH I think Flexes disappearance could also have been something RL related or something. Like he disappears mid-sentence and doesn't even return to vote. Wouldn't be surprised if he ware to replace out or gets modkilled. So he feels a bit more like a policy lunch to me than actual scum.
Saw it coming. =p
Super hype that neither rayn nor damdred got shot tonight! :D
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On July 27 2015 07:12 Damdred wrote:
That's not true ruxxar statistically it's about a 50/50 split for replacements
Yeah. Scott needs to put some posts out!
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In both of my first two games we lynched scott D1.
So congrats on making it to D2 scott. =D
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On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to bed.
shoot Fexexs.
check tictactoe.
i think they are the last mafia.
i think moosy is not mafia.
be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM.
i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy? It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed?
Barakos was so scummy even I didn't manage to waffle on him. 
He was called out for a post early on, his response was terrible, he got called out on that again. Got a bunch of votes. Never showed up again.
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Just arrived at work. Short thought-dump / updates.
On July 27 2015 16:25 Rels wrote:Second, I was roleblocked. My potential night actions were: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:
Alright first thing about actions:
If I was cop I would check noobking.
If I was vig I would shoot Flexes. So I believe one of these two is mafia.
I think this is pretty much WIFOM. Can you make a case on either without relying on that?
I was NOT roleblocked.
Where I am currently at:
town: rayn, damdred
town lean: rels, ruxxar
null: scott, nocturnemage (want both to post stuff)
scum lean: Sulf
waffleland: MD, n00bKing
need to reread asap: Breshke, TT
ToDo for today: reread Breshke and TT, reach conclusion on MD, n00bKing
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Ah btw another quick note:
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game?
One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible...
Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already...
Not liking this...
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On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote:
Ah btw another quick note:
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game?
One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible...
Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already...
Not liking this...
Meh. So Sulfurus is currently the one most likely flipping scum imo. As I mentioned earlier I need to check some other things... but let's go with this for now:
##vote Sulfurus
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On July 27 2015 18:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote:
Ah btw another quick note:
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game?
One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible...
Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already...
Not liking this... He was mafia in newbie XI and played exactly like that. I hard town read him for that, better townies lynched him and he was the GF. He was also GF in newbie XII, where he played more or less like that too if I remember correctly. Was lynched D1.
On July 27 2015 18:01 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote:
Ah btw another quick note:
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game?
One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible...
Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already...
Not liking this... Meh. So Sulfurus is currently the one most likely flipping scum imo. As I mentioned earlier I need to check some other things... but let's go with this for now: ##vote Sulfurus
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On July 27 2015 18:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 18:03 disformation wrote:On July 27 2015 18:01 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote:
Ah btw another quick note:
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game?
One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible...
Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already...
Not liking this... He was mafia in newbie XI and played exactly like that. I hard town read him for that, better townies lynched him and he was the GF. He was also GF in newbie XII, where he played more or less like that too if I remember correctly. Was lynched D1. On July 27 2015 18:01 disformation wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 disformation wrote:
Ah btw another quick note:
I remember being incredibly wrong on Sulfurus in NSM X. A few ppl mentioned playing with Sulfurus in both scum and town games. Does this game look more like his scum or his town game?
One of the problems I had in NSM X was that he rarely posted and at some later stage I wasn't able to discern the flow/progress of his reads. Someone mentioned he posts even less as scum? Like how is this even possible...
Then again his filter is still only one page... and he dodged my question twice already...
Not liking this... Meh. So Sulfurus is currently the one most likely flipping scum imo. As I mentioned earlier I need to check some other things... but let's go with this for now: ##vote Sulfurus Can you quote the questions you asked Sulfu that he didn't answer ?
On July 25 2015 10:32 disformation wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasons for your townread on Damdred and your reasons for your #1 scum read on barakos, who you are currently voting for. And the reasons for your #2 scum read of MoosyDoosy would also be nice.
Yeah, I think that would me help understanding your world.
Only explained the Barakos read.
On July 26 2015 03:48 disformation wrote:
Still want your town read on Damdred and your #2 scum read on MoosyDoosy explained. :p
No answer I am aware of. Made a case on n00bKing instead... but votes for MD after never explaining his read on him...
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On July 27 2015 18:54 Rels wrote:
Outside of the case 'cause we're starting to go into unflipped relation case:
His read on Flexes is idiotic, especially his explanation on why disfo is scummier than Flexes. If Sulfu flips town I think Flexes has a (even bigger) chance to flip mafia.
Yeah. While I am not a great fan of unflipped associations, this is something to keep in mind if one of the two turns out to be scum at some point.
In a very similar vein I feel that if both n00bKing and MD are town it increases the chance of Sulfurus being scum.
Also since Sulfurus posted his PoE very late, it is possible that he put Barakos on top of it to get some town cred to maybe get some misslynches going?
At that point even if scum didn't know if Barakos would come back or not, it looked very much like he would be lynched, soit is a decent/easy way of getting town cred?
Though of course all this stuff is kinda WIFOM and such and I wouldn't base my scum read only on that. Look at Rels case or my recent posts on Sulfurus for plenty other reasons to vote him though.
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Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of:
On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him.
Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum.
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