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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:12 GMT
#321
On July 25 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred:

- don't like opening post, forced.
- tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain.


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, i'm town I think this is just a normal entry post.


ruxxar are you saying this is forced or the next post?

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:
Initial reads before anything else happens

Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town.


I disagreed with frequency alone being a town indicator becauce it can be both ways but why are you saying he's too certain? Why couldn't this just be confidence? He's saying obviously, then he says "subject to change" then he's saying "general direction". The explanation flows so I don't know where you mean too certain.


First post.

Suspicious because he used the same read on me last game when we were both mafia.
"Ruxxar so carefree and speaks his mind" etc.
Rest of his content is ok.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:14 GMT
#322
On July 24 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FYI i wanna hear moose answer damdred before elaborating further.

Damdred he said kinda did:

On July 24 2015 22:11 Damdred wrote:
Why he liked my post about things, I think he did roughly


So either:
- press moosy if his answer doesn't statisfy you
- or "elaborate further"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 15:20 GMT
#323
I didn't see his answer.
I look again when i get home and elaborate further.

I don't buy Barakos' explanation btw. He is very likely to be mafia. I think there is one thing at least from what you can tell he is lying.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:21 GMT
#324
On July 25 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred:

- don't like opening post, forced.
- tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain.


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, i'm town I think this is just a normal entry post.


ruxxar are you saying this is forced or the next post?

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:
Initial reads before anything else happens

Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town.


I disagreed with frequency alone being a town indicator becauce it can be both ways but why are you saying he's too certain? Why couldn't this just be confidence? He's saying obviously, then he says "subject to change" then he's saying "general direction". The explanation flows so I don't know where you mean too certain.

What the fuck NM. How can you say this:
On July 25 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:
why are you saying he's too certain?


Reread the sentence before bolding the wrong part:
Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:23 GMT
#325
On July 25 2015 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't buy Barakos' explanation btw. He is very likely to be mafia. I think there is one thing at least from what you can tell he is lying.

Agree with the weird explanation + the fact that almost all he did today was defending himself.

Interested of the lie, waiting for you to be home.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:27 GMT
#326
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:
Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam


To me:
I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads


Lynch with fire.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:32 GMT
#327
On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:
Show nested quote +
Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
Show nested quote +
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)
Show nested quote +
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam


To me:
Show nested quote +
I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Show nested quote +
Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads


Lynch with fire.

I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:39 GMT
#328
On July 25 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:
Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam


To me:
I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads


Lynch with fire.

I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case.


Complete change in attitude about my play.

To breshke: "Stop attacking ruxxar for not giving reads, he doesn't do that, it's our job to do that, it's his normal town meta.".
To me: "You idiot, start making some reads"
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:46 GMT
#329
On July 25 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:
Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam


To me:
I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads


Lynch with fire.

I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case.


Complete change in attitude about my play.

To breshke: "Stop attacking ruxxar for not giving reads, he doesn't do that, it's our job to do that, it's his normal town meta.".
To me: "You idiot, start making some reads"

OK that makes sense. Waiting for his defense now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:47 GMT
#330
Actually your quotes are super damning. He really did a 180 on his expectations of you.

##Unvote
##Vote MoosyDoosy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:50 GMT
#331
On July 25 2015 00:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:
Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam


To me:
I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads


Lynch with fire.

I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case.


Complete change in attitude about my play.

To breshke: "Stop attacking ruxxar for not giving reads, he doesn't do that, it's our job to do that, it's his normal town meta.".
To me: "You idiot, start making some reads"

OK that makes sense. Waiting for his defense now.


Actually, why do you need his defense in this situation to draw a conclusion? Past experience would show you usually come to your own conclusions in a proactive way instead of being somewhat passive
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:51 GMT
#332
Hrm you somewhat ninjas me, why are you leaving your first vote which was Barajas I think?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:52 GMT
#333
On July 25 2015 00:12 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred:

- don't like opening post, forced.
- tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain.


On July 24 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, i'm town I think this is just a normal entry post.


ruxxar are you saying this is forced or the next post?

On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:
Initial reads before anything else happens

Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town.


I disagreed with frequency alone being a town indicator becauce it can be both ways but why are you saying he's too certain? Why couldn't this just be confidence? He's saying obviously, then he says "subject to change" then he's saying "general direction". The explanation flows so I don't know where you mean too certain.


First post.

Suspicious because he used the same read on me last game when we were both mafia.
"Ruxxar so carefree and speaks his mind" etc.
Rest of his content is ok.


This is a dumb thing. But it makes you more town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:52 GMT
#334
On July 25 2015 00:50 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:46 Rels wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:
Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam


To me:
I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads


Lynch with fire.

I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case.


Complete change in attitude about my play.

To breshke: "Stop attacking ruxxar for not giving reads, he doesn't do that, it's our job to do that, it's his normal town meta.".
To me: "You idiot, start making some reads"

OK that makes sense. Waiting for his defense now.


Actually, why do you need his defense in this situation to draw a conclusion? Past experience would show you usually come to your own conclusions in a proactive way instead of being somewhat passive

'cause in unclear cases it's good to have the defender's version.

But I suppose the post just above yours is pleasing you. (= I proactived your post!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 15:52 GMT
#335
Also for moosy:
You keep dodging rels question.
I want an answer:

On July 24 2015 22:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:
What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it.

OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning.

On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.

What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ? What are your thoughts on ruxxar ?

Because I'm Mafia buddy. What other reason could there be? ~ ~ ~

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 15:53 GMT
#336
On July 25 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote:
Hrm you somewhat ninjas me, why are you leaving your first vote which was Barajas I think?

No it was NocturneMage, who started to makes decent posts last page. It is super annoying that you are not reading this game closely.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 16:02 GMT
#337
On July 25 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:12 ruXxar wrote:
On July 25 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred:

- don't like opening post, forced.
- tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain.


On July 24 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, i'm town I think this is just a normal entry post.


ruxxar are you saying this is forced or the next post?

On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:
Initial reads before anything else happens

Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town.


I disagreed with frequency alone being a town indicator becauce it can be both ways but why are you saying he's too certain? Why couldn't this just be confidence? He's saying obviously, then he says "subject to change" then he's saying "general direction". The explanation flows so I don't know where you mean too certain.


First post.

Suspicious because he used the same read on me last game when we were both mafia.
"Ruxxar so carefree and speaks his mind" etc.
Rest of his content is ok.


This is a dumb thing. But it makes you more town


What do you think of moosy damdy?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 16:13 GMT
#338
On July 24 2015 19:41 Tictock wrote:
Drew a few cards for some of ya. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at your card and give me your impression of it.

People chosen by some means.

n00b - 4 of Wands - Completion
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


rayn - 4 of Cups - Luxury
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Moosy - Knight of Swords
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ruXx - Ace of Disks
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Noc -7 of Wands - Valor
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Flex - Kight of Cups
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


*Ruxx sits a while in silence and regards the cards each in turn slowly, studying the intricate decorations and inscriptions, the art whisked out by the tides of time.He looks back up and makes eye eye contact with Ticktock. A silence descends upon the world and all outside noise fades away. Keeping the gaze fixated Ruxx rummages his pockets and drags out a curled 5$ note. He straightens it carefully before laying it down on the table in plain sight.
- I don't speak tarot, give me the human readable explanation*
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 24 2015 16:20 GMT
#339
On July 25 2015 00:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote:
Hrm you somewhat ninjas me, why are you leaving your first vote which was Barajas I think?

No it was NocturneMage, who started to makes decent posts last page. It is super annoying that you are not reading this game closely.


eh I thought you had a scum read on Barajas with me and voted him just a memory lapse.

I'm undecided on moosey I don't like all his posting some fell like a deliberate attempt to pocket others etc.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 24 2015 16:24 GMT
#340
On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 24 2015 23:28 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD


It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?

I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking?


A read from a sentence?
What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon?
The timing, his motivation, his meta?

A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for.

I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors.
The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life.
I read you clear as a book.

Your alignment is town.


I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia.

My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that.

The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR"
I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia.


n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron.

Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit.
What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me.

Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive.


Town:

Disformation.
Rels.

Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out?


Damdred:

- don't like opening post, forced.
- tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain.

Breshke:

- Too many words, too emotional, overly-defensive.

Moosy:

- Explanation of my meta is contrived.
- Says my town tone is glaringly obvious yet goes on to say he will suspect me hard.

Lol you want my honest expectations of ruXxar? I think he's a shit player who can't give reads and who makes shitty arguments like this. He tunnels hard as hell and generates way too much spam for him to be worth as a townie. That's my honest interpretation of ruXxar.

HOWEVER

even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway.

As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. That's what I mean when I say I will "suspect you hard". It's not that I think that you're Mafia but that I'm going to make sure that if you are Mafia that I'll catch it and make sure you die.

Want me to more brutally honest or does this suffice?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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