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On July 18 2015 19:23 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 19:04 plotspot wrote:
Why did I claim vanilla cop?
I think it won't hurt town and it leaves mafia guessing whether I really am Cop or VT.
1. If i'm VT than the real cop is fine, mafia still wants to check out what I am or possibly kill me and might waste a turn. If we have Medic for example they could protect me with a chance mafia will kill me. If I die we still only lose a VT.
2. If I'm cop I wifomed Mafia into taking other targets, and I would be safe. If there is a medic they could protect me.
I guess it's not that significant in the end. It keeps mafia guessing a bit. The medic role in both scenarios is interesting, if we have one, but the question is will mafia risk it?
You told damdred that "it would be fun" but now apparently there is some next level night kill play. interesting as this is, do you have any reads so far ?
Like this is what bothers me with plotspot.
He uses two different explanations for his actions.
There is nothing alignment indicative in his claim itself. He says he has planned that some weeks ago, so he would do that as either alignment most likely. The problem is, i don't understand (1) his explanation Kelsier pointed out and (2) what is he trying to gain? Like i don't get how anyone can think claiming "vanilla cop" does "confuse" mafia (but not town).
Also he said it was a reaction test so; I want to hear it from him, what did he gain. What conclusions did he come up with for the reactions, and why.
Otherwise probably mafia trying to just post something and talk about irrelevant things that have nothing to do with scumhunting.
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On July 19 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier why do you like Damdred?
Tone and the fact he is explaining things well
I don't mind him pushing ff
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On July 18 2015 19:25 plotspot wrote:
I always have to ask myself the question: will the info I reveal benefit town or mafia more? I know most here believe if you have info, share it with town, because town are in the majority. I'll try to consider this more.
Also i think this is really bad.
plotspot what is this "info" you are talking about here?
obviously you want to share all info you have (not talking about claiming here). Why wouldn't you?
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On July 19 2015 01:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't mind him pushing ff
but the reasoning for his read is terribad.
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hm what do you think of jonnylaw so far?
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damdred town, onegu mafia.
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On July 19 2015 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:but the reasoning for his read is terribad.
mhmm...I mean it's not like you can look at it and say "damdred made a great case, he thinks this guy is 100% mafia let's sheep. " it's more of damdred giving reasons for a scum lean.
it's not terribad for early d1 though.
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On July 19 2015 01:08 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 19 2015 01:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't mind him pushing ff but the reasoning for his read is terribad. mhmm...I mean it's not like you can look at it and say "damdred made a great case, he thinks this guy is 100% mafia let's sheep. " it's more of damdred giving reasons for a scum lean. it's not terribad for early d1 though.
well it kinda is.
half of his case didn't even happen. well, all of his case didn't even happen the way he puts it. 
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meh i gotta go find something.
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On July 19 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 01:08 KelsierSC wrote:On July 19 2015 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 19 2015 01:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't mind him pushing ff but the reasoning for his read is terribad. mhmm...I mean it's not like you can look at it and say "damdred made a great case, he thinks this guy is 100% mafia let's sheep. " it's more of damdred giving reasons for a scum lean. it's not terribad for early d1 though. well it kinda is. half of his case didn't even happen. well, all of his case didn't even happen the way he puts it.
it's not really a case though.
just wait and see what happens
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On July 19 2015 01:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
hm what do you think of jonnylaw so far?
should i be thinking anything about him?
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 18 2015 23:38 Damdred wrote:
LS you are such an easy read when you do things like this.
I can't find a reason that Rayn is town currently, I read his filter last night and this morning to try to get a fresh perspective. There are a couple of red flags in his filter that pop up to me that make me uneasy and make me think that he could potentially be mafia.
If you look at his filter you will find that he is not going about this game in the same way that he has in his past games as town. There is very little scum hunting to the extent that I am used to. Usually he sees something scummy and pushes it and the person until they either crack and gets them lynched or yells and screams and gets his person lynched.
This is missing this game, look at slytern mafia which is his closest town game in which he had similar time restraints. He pushed his scum reads extremely hard and got his lynched day one and then pressed Sl until he cracked d2 and got him lynched. I don't see the same tenaciousness here. Hes lacking the real drive and impact in the game, hes a behind the scenes type guy in this game.
He seems to have several scum reads in the game but drops them pretty quickly. He lacks his normal tunnel on people, for example he calls Palmar mafia at one point for a case on him but never revisits it to my eyes. He doesn't really push any of his scum reads and he is really lurky and back of the bus for Rayn.
I think this guy is scum.
damdred why does your case on FF sound awfully alot like the above?
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On July 19 2015 01:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
hm what do you think of jonnylaw so far?
townpile so far.
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On July 19 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 19 2015 01:08 KelsierSC wrote:On July 19 2015 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 19 2015 01:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't mind him pushing ff but the reasoning for his read is terribad. mhmm...I mean it's not like you can look at it and say "damdred made a great case, he thinks this guy is 100% mafia let's sheep. " it's more of damdred giving reasons for a scum lean. it's not terribad for early d1 though. well it kinda is. half of his case didn't even happen. well, all of his case didn't even happen the way he puts it. it's not really a case though. just wait and see what happens
I don't care about if it is a case or not.
I care about the fact that the things he present - from what he forms a read on FF did not actually happen.
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Like there is nothing in FF's posts to be considered "angry".
The "I had to drag a interaction out of you" is a straight out lie based on the thread.
The "you are willing to get your page of filter fast about nothing" is just a dumb argument this early in the game.
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Anyways so far i have:
town
Rels
Kelsier
FecalFeast
VayneAuthority
JohnnyLaw
yamato
That leaves me with
geript
plotspot
Damdred
milo.
I am about 96% confident there is at least two, probably three mafia in those four people.
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hmm yeah for got about Onegu.
He could be mafia.
Not sure yet.
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Actually stop being dumb rayn everything that I posted did happen.
1) FF did in fact basically say I want to get all my one page over. Then complained about it being totally fluff, or that he hoped it wouldn't be -shrug-
2) Tonr wise he does sound perturbed or angry that he had to ask about that part of my post when I found it interesting nobody even asked.
3) You are obviously not reading if you can't see I had to pry ff to interact on the point of oneg basically.
The funny thing is that most of this stuff I pointed out BEFORE you initially town read me. And the cases don't look anything alike since I don't have a case but a slight lean I was explaining.
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