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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
July 21 2015 19:55 GMT
#28
are there any parties in this game or does the one who survive as the last win?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
July 21 2015 20:24 GMT
#32
/in

yah, I have a feeling it's less discussion-intensive because it will be more heavy on the mindgame side.

plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
July 30 2015 16:19 GMT
#46
hmm don't understand why people don't wanna join. First I thought it was just some shooting, but since it has parties like a mafia game, it is basically the same in that the key to victory is figuring out who's mafia by talking to each other.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 04 2015 11:56 GMT
#87
/confirm
yeah no filter kinda sucks, but we'll see
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#103
wow since when did the rules change to 3 loads and 3 defends? I thought it was 5 loads and 5 defends before.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 05 2015 00:15 GMT
#104
like this should be very easy for town, we all agree to load and everyone has 2 shots for tomorrow. Makes the game very interesting, and ok maybe mafia doesn't agree and shoots, who the fuck cares 2 townies dead but we know who is mafia for sure, because they didn't load but shot instead.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 05 2015 03:09 GMT
#113
On August 05 2015 10:19 Damdred wrote:
Well actually we kinda can tell if everyone says load whoever doesn't have two shots tommorow is scum ya?


yeah that was the plan, but Sulfurus is right, I wasn't paying attention to the sample post Sentinel made. Though still if we agree that everyone loads, and every townie does, it leaves mafia back to shoot especially if you see 2 townies dying.Though still we are left with 4 townies who have 8 shots and 2 mafia who has no shot, this is advantageous to town, no? More likely we bring mafia to the game too by having them load, but then we have 6 townies with 12 shots and 2 mafia with 4 shots, I still think in such a game it favours the mass.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 05 2015 03:27 GMT
#114
actually I've thought more about this, as town we don't need to load up so much. We only need 2 kills, that means if we defend more and hit the right spots, this should do it. We don't need to load, if you die with many bullets, it's all the same. I doubt this game last more than 4 turns.
But consider this, if we don't misshoot, mafia needs at least 5 turns to win: shoot, load, shoot, load, shoot. Successfully defending one or two shots can drag this out to 6 turns for mafia to win, while we'd only need to hit two of them somewhere in between, killing one of them basically doubles the remaining time for them to win, if we don't misshoot.
I'm stressing this "don't misshoot" because we don't have lynch mechanism to balance it out, so we have to be extra careful when shooting someone.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 05 2015 19:03 GMT
#137
TT, you have set on default load in your first post. My first reaction was too that everyone should load, but shortly afterwards I pointed out that a defensive stance might not be so bad, since town doesn't really need that many bullets. And then you kinda agree that everyone should rather defend today.
Well I'm still waging between loading and defending, we'll see.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 06 2015 12:22 GMT
#164
Good stuff, I have aimed my cannon at one of the liars in this thread from the beginning of N2. LOL everyone loading was kinda what I expected.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 06 2015 19:10 GMT
#170
On August 07 2015 00:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw, I don't really like Shockey either.
:/


what don't you like about Shockey, besides probably that he has not more than one post so far?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 06 2015 19:26 GMT
#172
yea and I'm fucking tired, have had a few rough days, you guys can do whatever you want
I'm shooting too, I have Sulfurus as town, so he is the only one I am definitely not shooting
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 06 2015 20:24 GMT
#174
haha this game
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 06 2015 20:29 GMT
#175
well, I didn't shoot any of them.^^
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 06 2015 20:37 GMT
#178
nah I defended. I pointed out the dangers of shooting in the wild earlier, not gonna shoot If I'm not sure.
btw Damdred, your conclusion is wrong, not everyone shot. I just tried to make a cannonball analysis. It's not possible, you don't know whether the guys who died shot or loaded.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 00:38 GMT
#182
? what kind of math is that. 1+2+2= 5 not 6.
Assuming so far: me 2 shots left, you 1 shot left, TT 2 shots left.
That's 5/8, so it's 3 CB for both Sulfurus and Shockey. One of them must have shot and the other defended, because they both went in N2 with 2 CB each.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 12:24 GMT
#193
Like, I don't know. Whoever comes out now and claims having shot Obi is extremely suspicious (easiest bus claim ever), you won't find that person, yea maybe Sulf or one of the dead shot him, but who knows, it doesn't matter, I grant that townies can be a bit secretive in this game. Lying is absolutely not a mafia trait here. It's proven that I've "lied" about my NA last night, TT has "lied" twice, Onegu "lied" about his N1 action and we don't know whether he really shot someone N2 either and flipped town. It's more like decision swings not being proclaimed to the thread, which is fine and in essence not any different than anyone who didn't proclaim any NA in the thread.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:02 GMT
#198
I defended. So Sulfurus has 1 CB left and defended too?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:03 GMT
#200
Let me guess you shot Sulfurus because he wasn't willing to "participate", or me? I dunno.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:10 GMT
#203
This is something I don't understand either. As either alignment you could choose one of the 3 dead or even the one you shot but who defended himself, and give some explanation, it's not like people will rip your head off because your reasoning isn't super tight and logical in this game.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:26 GMT
#206
@Damdred: i was referring to the question you asked who Sulf shooted, but he never gave an explanation.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:30 GMT
#207
you're wrong Sulf has 2 Defends left.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:34 GMT
#210
Mafia tendencies imo: Sulf > Damdred > TT, I'm willing to shoot Sulf, so you guys can load up and be on standby if he defends. If we neutralize eachother, we either win or you guys Damdred and TT will have to showdown this. Good luck.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 07 2015 21:41 GMT
#212
or wait, when does this game end? In this case not if mafia number = town number right? This would be kinda lame, since playground is quite leveled.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 11:36 GMT
#220
On August 08 2015 18:08 Sulfurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 16:44 Tictock wrote:
On August 08 2015 15:54 Sulfurus wrote:
Hello again I'm back.

First of all I am confirmed town for killing Obi n2 (I'm the only reason the game didn't end in a scum victory). So basically treat this like a lylo situation where one of you has to convince me your town.


If this is true, and you believe that stating it it should make you confirmed town to us, why did you not say so last phase?


Because I'm bad at this game.

My reasoning was that I was already being town read and that if someone else shot Obi they would need the town cred more than I did.

Honestly I have a bias towards being secretive and typing as little into the thread as possible.


Well killing someone or stating killing someone after the fact doesn't really confirm anyone as anything because of possible overlap. But I'd be interested why you picked out Obi, what made him scum?

Besides I don't know, Damdred stated shooting FF, me and TT stated defending and gave our explanations, if you shot someone it's kinda clear that Shockeyy was defending too (which he later confirmed too). Like, from your perspective you must have known that no one else killed Obi or wanted to be credited or associated with the Obi kill, why trying to give others more town credit especially when stating killing Obi isn't going to do that technically?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 19:59 GMT
#227
lol Sentinel is probably gonna be late again XD
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#230
wow Sulfurus didn't stick to the plan XD
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:07 GMT
#231
TT you scum I always wanted to shoot you. NOW THERE IS THE CHANCE.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:31 GMT
#232
Oh come one TT, I either loaded, defended or shot. Where are you? Let's get this over with.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:42 GMT
#234
Sulfurus is no coward. I should have shot you and I thought were going to defend.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:46 GMT
#235
Lel no, any scum would have taken my offer for sure. Two townies shooting each other, that's a brilliant idea.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:55 GMT
#238
lol you want a draw? Come on.^^
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#239
Sure I kinda believe your RL distractions, you weren't really here after EoN.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 22:42 GMT
#246
yeah GG, draw is kinda fitting for this game I feel.

No Damdred, the posts from Sulf is too close, he was talking about something before, that makes you in his opinion scum.

Your load on N7 kinda surprised me TT, I was supposed to be out of defends after I defended on N6, so I was sure you were gonna shoot to possibly win or pull a draw.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#247
I kinda took part in this game to understand where pressure and the root of scumhunting comes from. And it appears as n00bking said, there is no pressure to be vocal.
Which then as it appears, voting is really the key mechanism to get people talking. And if you don't talk then you're either scum or at best disposable town.
But I don't know, maybe Sentinel can tell us whether such a game could have unfolded in a different way?
I always had the feeling people really wanted to participate and talk, but then felt "ah no, I just talk a bit less, it's fine" and this kinda spirals down and ends up making everybody mirror each other.
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