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On July 11 2015 23:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: We are all sheep. On that note imma sheep n00bKing. ##vote NydusHerMain | ||
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On July 12 2015 01:49 TJHuggins wrote: My initial reads so far is that i am town leaning on Fidei. I like the things he said in relation to spamming, and I think that him relating the perspective to a previous game where he was town feels like he's looking at the game from the perspective of a town. When he responded to HTS regarding talking about anti-spam being easy, he seems genuine. Or maybe it's just because I like his writing. No clue. My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about. I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure. just an initial read. I don't agree with this but let's see what Ghandi says. | ||
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On July 11 2015 22:32 Fidei86 wrote: @HTS I agree that it's easy to talk anti-spam. And it's also obviously possible to play a perfectly good scum game without either spamming or lurking. But my view is that if we build a good town atmosphere with all townies being active but not spammy, it makes it much harder for even good scum players to hide. If I start lurking or spamming, that'll be a good sign I'm Mafia. But since I'm town, I'll do my best to stick to my words. One thing that irks me is that I know that you aren't the biggest fan of spam either. Obviously this thread is much more in danger of being too quiet than too loud, but I would have hoped you'd join me echoing my words. Why the change of heart? Or have you just got your game face on (which, admittedly, wouldn't be very alignment indicative..) You weren't in the last Newbie Student Mafia game. T.T WaveofShadow and Trfel were the perfect townies from start to end and fooled us all. So I don't really think this is something you should completely put your faith in. | ||
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On July 12 2015 02:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Grokken's first post seems pretty innocuous to me, and even if there was something sinister behind it, reading someone at all in the first few posts creates poor conclusions, imo. Second post there is sketchier to me, in that it seems serious in its attempts to prod the town, despite not actually bringing up any discussion that will lead to a conclusion. That's a little smelly to me. That said, it's tiny enough that it could fly either way. Day 1 reads are all luck anyways :| Exactly what I was thinking. His first post seems to be more of a first page banter post. The second one is asking for clarification although as you say, it leads nowhere. But then again, newer players have a tendency to ask for clarification without having a drive behind it. Any thoughts on the suspicion of you Ghandi? :3 | ||
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On July 12 2015 04:27 Half the Sky wrote: On this quote itself, this could be self-consciousness (a scum tell) or it could be an earnest townie just wanting to play the game, but then again scum wouldn't make this so obvious. Newbie scum....ehhhh probably not. Probably a slight townlean, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know how MD played last game. I was an earnest townie last Newbie Student Mafia game with a monster filter. :3 Besides ruXxar everyone pretty much knew I was a townie which is why I want to change things up here and make things interesting. Also @Sulfurus, that's a terrible post. There's no way for me to make a monster filter without a conversation except by spamming which won't help us in any way. | ||
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On July 12 2015 04:17 Half the Sky wrote: I honestly didn't feel it needed repeating (it stood on its own) and just wanted to start seeing what I could get out of the thread. I definitely agree to discourage spam as much as possible but at the same time don't ignore the lurkers. Similarly as was already said, there are high volume posters that do play well as mafia. Sometimes you might also get a milder form of spam if you have too many conversational posters. I can't remember where I said this before but I've said it multiple times now - there's conversational and case based posting and inevitably some people are going to have longer filters if they do engage in long - even if useful - conversation. That said I think either way if people keep things to the point, EBWOPs aside, spam really shouldn't be an issue. That said, this post by Grokken http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=129&topic_id=488742 was called into question and honestly I don't think this warrants a scum read - if he's scum, it's not going to be for this. In the context of that entire conversation, there's nothing but sarcasm, to me it's just a cheeky post especially considering the "oh shit you got me" response Gandhi posted after that. The two of them (him and Gandhi) seem pretty carefree like they don't really care what people think of them, which actually warrant a town tell. The second quote that was called into question - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488742-newbie-student-mafia-xii?page=8#148 First off - one liners aren't alignment indicative either way - like I said before someone might try to evaluate conversation as they have it. I don't think it's reasonable to scum read him largely because NHM hasn't been back to respond so how are you setting up the expectation already that he needs to follow up? There's nothing to follow up on. I think Grokken is a townlean based on his first few posts, it is reasonable for a new player to question something that seems off or may warrant an explanation - and I agree it does. I don't think TJ is being reasonable to set up the follow-up expectation when it's pretty clear where the expectation lies - the answer to that particular question. A haste to judgement is a scumlean (esp for a player I don't know). I'd prefer it if you let Grokken speak for himself. This might have been the jail free card that he was looking for. | ||
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On July 12 2015 05:51 n00bKing wrote: Change things up in what way? Are you saying you want to vary your play? Or do you mean something else? Ofc vary my play. I'm not sure how you could read this any other way. o.O Eh, good post Grokken. You'll catch on quickly to TL Mafia. We basically analyze, cross analyze, then analyze some more of people's filters before finding contradictions or scum reads to lynch ppl. If you want to push something on someone, write up a "case" similar to the one you've written but with bullet points with quotes for evidence. So what you've been doing is pretty good. For people wondering, what I do is find townreads and work from there so don't expect me to be finding Mafia anytime soon. | ||
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On July 12 2015 08:07 n00bKing wrote: I could not think of any other way to read it. But I wanted to give you a chance to dig yourself out of that hole anyway, since "vary my play" would be a stupid answer. You were town and you were widely townread, and you were night-killed on Night 2, after I had been night-killed on Night 1. Now you want to "change things up" and "make things interesting" by varying your play, so that people will NOT be able to townread you so easily? How is that good strategy, Moosy? If you're town, shouldn't you WANT your alignment to be evident again, as it was in that game? You sound like you are pre-emptively making excuses for not matching your own town play. So that if someone like Sulfurus or Scott or myself says "Moosy is playing nothing like he did in the last game...where he was town" you'll be able to say "Well I already told you I was going to vary my play this time!" See what I'm saying? I see what you're saying but posting the same way would just be boring for me and everyone else. Eh, just keep an open mind about me. Also, n00bKing, you need to stop creating specific scenarios. Like, it's cool you can think that far ahead unlike me but then you'll just fall into the hole that ruXxar did and interpret everything I do as Mafia. We saw his rationale for why he thought I was Mafia and it was pretty convoluted and not pretty. Anyway, things are already becoming interesting what with people thinking I'm Mafia. And that's the goal of this game for me. To make life interesting. :3 | ||
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On July 12 2015 08:56 Fidei86 wrote: You said about ten posts ago that you were going to be town-hunting at first. Now you're saying that you're scum-hunting. Which is it?? I said I'm changing things up. :3 | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:18 Half the Sky wrote: You're not particularly answering the question. Maybe it might help if you answered the one I just posed. Not particularly interested in something because I'm still waiting but whatever. I try and form who I think are the core of townies and work from there. I do tend to sheep cases in the earlier stages of the game but it's not because I'm mindless. Something to keep in mind. | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:39 Half the Sky wrote: And what if town are on the wrong track? How do we know you aren't taking advantage of that as scum? You don't. Which is why things are interesting. :D | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:46 Half the Sky wrote: I think in 18-19 hours' time let's see if you find the noose interesting. ##vote MoosyDoosy I do :3 ##unvote NydusHerMain ##vote MoosyDoosy | ||
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On July 12 2015 21:18 WonnaPlay wrote: So, unfortunately this started on a busy weekend for me, but here I am again. As for my background in Mafia, I have none, but I have played "Werewolves of Miller's Hollow", which is similar I guess. My initial thoughts are that there are some people who are actually trying to help the discussion so far and some people are just trying to create chaos. In my opinion people who try to create chaos aren't playing happily for the village. NHM : somehow votes really really early, without having a solid argument. MoosyDoosy: Votes on NHM with the motto of sheep. I'm not particularly fond of sheep, becuse in that case it seems like you will vote with anyone, just so you don't get killed during the day, which seems conspicuous. He does seem to "try" to help, but voting on himself afterwards isn't really helpfull either. My first impression on MD is that he is trying to create too much chaos, which is scumlike. But in the same time it seems like he is just trying to provoke alot of people, which is townlike i guess? Scott : somehow says he has a townlead towards Fidei, but hasn't said anything since, nor did he do anything to explain his thoughts, which seems just really random. TJHuggins : seems to be trying to find out more information on certain partys, which is better (imo) than spraying confusement. HTS: seems to be really forward in his questions calling people onto their nonsense, which could be really strong mafia play, but for now it seems like he is legitimately hunting. Ghandi : I don't really know what he's thinking, he seems to try to avoid policy lynches on the first day, which I can understand, but it could also just be easy targeting/avoiding death. I don't have experience with this game, but I doubt that "Day 1 reads are all luck anyways" is true.. I think you can really come to some sort of fruition about some people.. Kelsier : So far he has only spammed nonesense into this thread, which is confusing for everyone. I think mafia players like chaos in the game, so in this case Kelsier is doing a "good" thing, by being a bit active without doing anything to help the town at all. Sulfurus : just randomly said he had the cop check, but I assume this is to get some reactions to it. Hasn't really said much since.. n00bking / grokken/ fidei: has actually tried to get more explanations / reactions out of people which is good for the village imo. silentwarrior : really is kinda silent.. . It's really hard to tell, especially since it is in the beginning of the game, but seeing that Kelsier has alot of experience and is only trying to create chaos, is worrying for me. Some others which seems untrustworthy aren't making a mess out of the rest of the town, so for me MoosyDoosy and Kelsier are the most dangerous at this moment.. The bit about me is terrible. I really don't see how you could draw that as a conclusion unless you're deliberately twisting your own mind to try and "nail" a scum slip. If you honestly think that's what I'm doing go back and read the timeline of the thread. | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:07 Half the Sky wrote: ....... If you're town you shouldn't be doing this. What do you think on the most widely (not just me) discussed potential scum if you aren't? (scott/nydus/sulfurus) I have no thoughts. It's more interesting to have people kill an obvious townie and facepalm as a reaction afterwards. XD | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:07 KelsierSC wrote: I will send out the message from my cabin but I see no reason to abandon my sanctuary to the "chaotic" game I created. Groken and Wp look like scum so far . Terrible list posts early in the game. ayeeE finally someone who sees what's going on. | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:43 WonnaPlay wrote: "Sheep me, I'm good at this game" or "I act as scum and see if anyone bites, then I attack them" - Onegu Card? So basically Kelsier is trying to get newer players to attack him, because he is sowing nonsense. To see if other people just blatantly follow those new players, which means that those followers or "sheep" are probably mafia players looking to get an easy kill? If this is what he's doing, then I think that his posts make more sense indeed, however I think it's provoking the wrong reactions in a newbie game. Um...no. Kelsier this might be a townie read since he seems to have no idea what traps are. | ||
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On July 13 2015 01:35 Fidei86 wrote: Moosy if you aren't going to defend yourself, you're gonna get lynched. If you're town, it's your duty to defend yourself. Nah it's cool. I'm fine with me dying. I've been hoping to get more of a reaction but I haven't seem to got it. I think I'll re-read the thread and some filters before writing an epitaph for my death. | ||
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On July 13 2015 02:03 Fidei86 wrote: Well there's been plenty said about you, and the thread is not that long. Care to respond to any of it? Don't really feel like going back tbh. I also don't know exactly what you have questions about. | ||
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On July 13 2015 02:00 n00bKing wrote: Players may not vote for themselves. So the vote count posted on Page 12 is not completely accurate. Hey hey, don't burst my bubble. Let me vote for myself. | ||
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On July 13 2015 02:43 Fidei86 wrote: So I'm sitting here thinking "n00b just made a big case on Moosy, then immediately defended him and now wants to lynch elsewhere - classic scum tell!". But then I thought about it and realised that my approach has been exactly the same. I want Moosy to engage, since everything we have on him at the moment is tonal, and could be bad/lazy town. Bleh. This is not a classic scum tell. It's pretty obvious I'm being a shitty townie so his analysis is pretty on point as usual. I really don't see how you guys think I'm Mafia. XD | ||
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On July 13 2015 03:32 Fidei86 wrote: You're asking people to vote for you? You very rarely see town do that. Really? How (in)experienced are you at Mafia? Have you been in games with shitty townies before? | ||
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On July 13 2015 03:43 TJHuggins wrote: Can you explain to me how I am supposed to differentiate "shitty townie" play from Mafia play? The way your posts are reading to me now it sounds like you are a mafia resigned to their fate. If that's not the case then what is your play here? Do you have anyone you think is mafia? Anyone that you think is town? Any reasons for those reads? Any reasoning for why you have been writing/acting like a 14 year old for the last 12 hours? I'm going to be seriously upset if you are lynched and flip town because all that I will be thinking is: "What the fuck?" Ya that's gonna happen. If you read my filter I did say in one of my posts that my goal is to make you all lynch me and facepalm afterwards. | ||
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n00bKing we know how this will end up anyway. XD | ||
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Alright down to business. Apparently my bait was successful although I wasn't around to catch the slip from Sulfurus. Glad to see that Half the Sky caught it. I'm going to actually work from here on out. Re-reading the thread seriously. | ||
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On July 13 2015 08:55 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Sorry about being useless/afk, small stuff that takes priority came up. From now on I have my full attention on the game, will drop in my current reads (spoilers; I don't trust Moose) later. yesyesyes I like this post the most. Especially the spoiler part. Let's start off and end with this on Day 2 folks. | ||
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On July 13 2015 09:38 Half the Sky wrote: LOL... anyhow....if you are town, you are in a good position to tell us who the scummers - if any - were on your wagon. Who do you think they were? tbh I have 2 suspicions but I'd rather wait. If I'm right, I'd rather not say it and die. Either way I doubt Mafia will try and kill me since some people apparently somehow see me as a possible scum and they will try and bus me. But knowing that they might kill me although there are better people to kill. ^.^ I love screwing things up for the Mafia. | ||
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On July 13 2015 10:09 silentwarrior wrote: You can post like 1 minute before night ends. That way, mafia can't kill you for whatever you say, as they don't have time to react. ^.^ That was the goal. | ||
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On July 13 2015 19:38 KelsierSC wrote: sulfur's exit post saying that "4 people not voting means it doesn't count" indicates mafia is in the non votes who could have swayed it for him. Yeah I don't necessarily read it in that way. It could have just been townies that would have sheeped the case on me. | ||
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On July 14 2015 02:22 n00bKing wrote: He's in an even BETTER position to tell us, if he's scum! :D So you don't want to be night-killed? You only want to be mislynched? Don't worry, there's no chance of the bad guys killing you, no matter what suspicions you want to share. You could name the other 2 mafia members, which one has which role, their social security numbers, and what dinner plans they have for tonight, and they still are not killing you. You're right. I am scum. I was going to start participating but you just killed off my drive. Forget the epitaph folks. Let's continue to be a shitty townie! | ||
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On July 14 2015 08:11 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Note: I don't really think Moosy is mafia. I want him to help or get out. If you don't think I'm Mafia then why the hell would you try and kill me. Like are you trying to waste a Day lynch on me so that Mafia can get a free kill? Or are you just trying to decrease the townie count for Mafia to win? I won't even address you saying I didn't help because it was my trap with my shitty behavior in the first place which let us snag Sulfurus. I was kinda starting to believe that it wouldn't work but Sulf did slip. And in case you actually start to believe otherwise, I gave plenty of hints I was going to try something new this game which happened to be the trap. Why do you think my first post was "We are all sheep?" lol Overall, your vote makes absolutely no sense unless you're trying to help Mafia. Either way, I'm completely fine with it. Waste your vote on me and see where it gets you. | ||
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On July 14 2015 09:04 Grokken wrote: By the way Moosy, what happened to the post you were gonna make the last minute of night? I decided not to do it since n00bKing was right. There was >1% chance I was gonna die. It's better for Mafia to keep me alive since I'll attract people who are tunneled like Ghandi while I'm not doing anything for town right now besides my initial trap. I still have my thoughts but I prefer to keep them to myself until I find a slip. | ||
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On July 14 2015 08:10 Fidei86 wrote: I think that there is actually a fairly decent chance that Ghandi is scum here. Reasons: 1. His entire filter is filler and waffle. He defends Grokken, but then backtracks from giving a read.he promised to give his reads, then didn't. 2. He talks a bit about the difficulty of getting good reads in the first day, then says he wants to flush out lurkers but not vote for them. 3. He apologises for being inactive but then does nothing about it. 4. This is a bit of a stretch, but I think it makes most sense for a more experienced player to NK Kelsier. Assuming Mafia were scared off NKing HTS or n00b (both obvious medic saves), why go after Kelsier, unless you knew he was a strong player/knows he knows your meta. 5. The total lie he just told about TJH. YES number 4 is exactly what I was thinking. The kill on Kelsier was definitely an attempt from Mafia to kill a blue role but this shows us that there HAS to be a veteran Mafia(s) who's thinking that far. Or the Mafia is completely clueless and we don't have much to fear. | ||
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On July 14 2015 09:29 GhandiEAGLE wrote: By essential information is that a blue claim? Or just something your saying. Also in response to MD's most recent post, is there guarantee of an "experienced" mafia? I thought the roles were 100% randomized. There is no guarantee and roles are randomized but the conclusion I'm drawing is that there HAS to be an "experienced" mafia. | ||
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Even if he's trying to get me to interact, he should present his argument in a way that would make me take it seriously. By taking his argument back in his very next post, I feel absolutely no inclination to respond since he says he thinks I'm townie anyway. Also, his filter before I started questioning him is garbage so I don't see why he finds an issue with me beginning to question him. I merely saw an opportunity to ask Ghandi a question especially since he hadn't really been productive before so I wanted to see what he would say. So this is for Ghandi: Can you explain the reason for your sudden switch in saying I'm a townie out of nowhere? Before your post against me, you had been insinuating that I wasn't a townie by saying that you didn't trust me: On July 13 2015 08:55 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Sorry about being useless/afk, small stuff that takes priority came up. From now on I have my full attention on the game, will drop in my current reads (spoilers; I don't trust Moose) later. Then you make your long post against me but back out of it in the very next post. There's no indication of a changing thought process in between so I'm curious as to your reaction. At least TJHuggins on the other hand strongly believed I was Mafia and had strong words about how the votes turned out. | ||
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On July 15 2015 10:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I can. I thought about it more. I'd gone back and forth on it a few times, and that was one of those instances. I changed my mind on it after that long post before anyone else talked about it. I still don't have a strong pull on you on way or the other, though, which is why I didn't put you on my definitive town list last time I made a large post. What about Grokken's post? He basically concluded that I couldn't be Mafia in the post right after your post against me. | ||
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If you want to make a post on TJHuggins and if you think that he is Mafia then feel free to do so. Don't let anything stop you. Mayhaps you'll draw attention to a detail that no one else would have noticed which will make everyone switch votes. I also dislike how you're thinking about how others will perceive you as town or not. If you're town there's really no need to worry about that since it WILL show in your actions especially if you post a ton. | ||
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On July 16 2015 04:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I wouldn't have posted about Grokken if he wasn't the scummiest person on my list. Don't spin it as "just because I couldn't pick anyone else". There's nothing that I said that should make you discount the argument. I'm keeping my vote there for a reason. What I disliked about that post was how you did everything that you criticized Grokken for. | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:24 Half the Sky wrote: Assumptions - Sulfurus wagon was a pure wagon. Starting point VCA Day 1 Sulfurus(4): Half the Sky, Fidei86, Kelsier SC, Noobking <--------likely pure wagon MoosyDoosy(3): Grokken, TJHuggins, Sulfurus NydusHerMain (1): silentwarrior Fidei86(1): NydusHerMain Not Voting(4): WonnaPlay, scott31337, GhandiEAGLE. MoosyDoosy Day 2 <4h to EoD GhandiEAGLE(4): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior TJHuggins(4): Ticktock, Noobking, MoosyDoosy, WonnaPlay Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE Not Voting(2): scott31337, TJHuggins Day 2 <40m to EoD GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337 Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE scott31337 (1): Tictock Not Voting(1): TJHuggins Day 2 EoD GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337 Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE Not Voting(1): TJHuggins Alright, give me some time to figure this out.... [/QUOTE] Yeah why the hell am I on GhandiEAGLE. Like go read the voting thread buddy or look at the mod list... | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:30 Tictock wrote: I never said any of the bolded line, think you misread something. Well MD effectily wasted his vote D1 and now D2 ninja voted (and not in the voting thread mind you...) onto someone who confirmed town. ... ehh Thinking back on D1 your right Sulf did make that post where he basically said he didn't care if MD got lynched. I also get what you mean by his play, but that doesn't mean we should accept him continuing that level of play. Still my point was that MD needs to start giving some real reads, because I'm not comfortable bringing him into late game with what we've seen from him thus far. I suppose we still have plenty of time before that's an issue though. OMFG I DID NOT NINJA VOTE. Lol plz read the voting thread ya'll. Ugh Half the Sky why did you have to start this shit. Are you trying to kill me or something? | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:00 Onegu wrote: Day 2 Final Vote Count GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337 Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE Not Voting(1): , TJHuggins Reminder Voting is done here. It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread. Currently GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched with 7 votes. Day 1 ends in PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE. Yeah Onegu go fix this since you're mod. I did not vote on GhandiEAGLE. Plz go read the damn voting thread. | ||
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On July 16 2015 07:58 Half the Sky wrote: Ugh, alright, revising the tables a THIRD time..... XD this is getting a bit out of hand huh? | ||
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Town: n00bKing, Fidei86, Half the Sky, MoosyDoosy Neutral: silentwarrior, Ticktock People to look into: TJHuggins, WonnaPlay, Grokken, scott31337 After reading into the 4 ppl at the bottom and GhandiEAGLE's filter again, I'd like to say that I read WonnaPlay as a townie. His thought process moves around a lot like mine did in my first newbie game so I can understand where he comes from. So I'd like to bump him up into the townie circle. scott3LEET needs to post more because I'm getting Mafia vibes from him with the way he's posting. The most interesting thing I came across was Grokken and silentwarrior. silentwarrior lists Grokken as town lean while Grokken is starting to look worse and worse. I hate making associative cases but if n00bKing would look into this it would be great because he's decent at sniffing these out. I'm going to read into Ticktock and TJHuggins some more as well as hunting for some silentwarrior and Grokken interaction. Thoughts? | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:16 TJHuggins wrote: Tomorrow. If you die where does that leave us? I would like it if you could post it now for me and HtS to dissect. | ||
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Looking at his filter, I think the latter part of it concerning Ghandi is decent, but the first part concerning me is quite something. | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:30 TJHuggins wrote: I may die. But, considering a significant amount of people think that I am mafia (see the three players who voted on me this day), understandably so since I have been very inactive this day, I think it wouldn't be terrible for town if I did die. It will save me from potentially getting mislynched, and keep someone who is much more towny in the game. So I will let the Mafia make the decision. "...let the Mafia make the decision." is a very very bad way to put it. Post the info 1 min before deadline. You probably won't die but it pays to be safe. | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:34 Tictock wrote: TJ might be a good person for Medic to visit tonight... Just sayin. There are better people to visit than TJ imo. | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:35 Tictock wrote: I also brought back some swiss cheese if anyone is interested. Mostly took home swishh Chocolate though... Who do you think is Mafia and why? | ||
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Town: n00bKing, Fidei86, Half the Sky, MoosyDoosy Town lean: WonnaPlay Neutral: silentwarrior People to look into: TJHuggins, Grokken, scott31337, Tictock Medic should choose from Townie circle. silentwarrior only really becomes suspicious through associative cases which is why he's neutral. WonnaPlay looks like a solid newbie player. The four I listed are really weird and we have to look into them and they have to post some more. | ||
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On July 16 2015 09:58 n00bKing wrote: Man, if only Ghandi had never made another post after I said this...lol Thoughts about my thoughts? Come on n00bKing I'm trying to be active here. Help me out a little bit buddy. | ||
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On July 16 2015 10:12 Grokken wrote: Sure. I've been reading the thread, but I haven't posted much because I haven't had much to say. My only scumread day 2 was Ghandi. I've been reading filters and such, but haven't been able to find anything particularly scummy. HtS made a good case against TJH, but I felt my read towards Ghandi was stronger. With Ghandi gone, I think TJH is the most likely to be scum. I don't see any reason to think HtS' case against him is any less relevant now than it was before. I don't understand why TicTock wants a medic to protect him. He is one of the more suspicious townie (if not mafia), and it seems more likely for mafia to target someone like HtS/Fidei/n00b. TicTock has been scumreading TJH, which makes me even more surprised to see him suggest TJH as a medic target. Give me more of your thoughts on Tictock then. Also please explain your thought process behind your voting and the reason why you did/did not change your mind in each of them. | ||
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Interesting thoughts on silentwarrior, but as I said in my post at the top of the page, silentwarrior only becomes Mafia through associative cases (which you are decent at) so I'd say we hold off on him until later. What I really want are your thoughts on the 4 I listed. | ||
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For now I'm mainly staring at TJHuggins for that "critical" information which seems to not be "critical" enough that he says it'll be "okay for town" if he dies during night time. Either way he's really fishy and I don't mind him dying. Explain yourself. I also agree with people saying we have no vigilante. Medic <3 ##Vote TJHuggins | ||
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I'll look over what people said about WonnaPlay and analyze his filter again since they're contradicting my town read on him. I'd like to ask n00bKing to not get so tunneled and relook over filters. I'd like Half the Sky to continue whatever she's doing. + Show Spoiler + I'd like TL to place a little gender icon next to names so I know which pronouns to use. | ||
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On July 17 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also, @mod, please post "Day 3" on the voting thread.... rsoul best mod <3 | ||
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On July 17 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote: I'm still at work for a few more hours, so going to be a bit before I can get into much analyses or explain my reads in much detail. Right now I'd most like to lynch Scott or SW, with Tj following somewhere behind them. I'm kinda giving TJ the benefit of the doubt atm, but he needs to step it up pretty fast if he wants to keep that benefit. Please explain your lynches on those two especially on silentwarrior after you get off from work. | ||
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From there the logical step would be to look at associations (looking at you n00bKing) and then finding out whether or not we should lynch silentwarrior/Grokken/scott. I couldn't get the chance to look at WonnaPlay's posts and compare it to other's points so I'll do that now. I'm getting feels about Fidei86/Tictock so I'll look at that too although I don't know if I'll share exactly what I'm thinking right now. | ||
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Not to mention "MD" gets on my nerves because I'm not even a doctor. I'm fine with people using "Moosy" and even misspelling it as "Mossy" or something. Thanks in advance. | ||
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On July 18 2015 08:45 Tictock wrote: You should just say what you want from him, if you wait till you both are around the thread at the same time... Well that may never even happen. Well then. @WonnaPlay, take a look at silentwarrior/Grokken/scott31337's filters and make a list of points for each on why you think they're suspicious. Doesn't have to be super in depth just a list of things that you disliked or liked and place a read like "town" or "scum" on each. | ||
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On July 18 2015 09:17 Tictock wrote: Huh, just noticed this... TJ made this vote about 2 hours ago. And without giving us the "critical information" or trying to defend himself. Either he's lazy, doesn't want to play this game, doesn't know how to defend himself, or is Mafia trying to desperately skate by and hoping for a quick wagon change in lynch votes. | ||
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btw it's bad play to say you have "critical information" and not participate. So we're not terrible but your play was more abysmal than GhandiEAGLE's. Your role claim is terrible too and there's a huge thread in TL Mafia that says role claiming is very bad. Should have waited until Day was almost over if you had to reveal that information. | ||
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Sorry I got a bit emotional but role claims get me very, very angry. | ||
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On July 18 2015 22:26 Grokken wrote: I don't think it makes sense for SW to get worked up about getting fake red checked, since I already counterclaimed. It's obvious that we're lynching TJH and not him. I'm not sure if that's enough reason for me to think he is mafia though. It would be very risky for TJH to fake a red check on SW because: 1. If the real cop waits until the next day to counterclaim, mafia loses. 2. If the real cop has already checked SW, mafia loses. It's still not impossible of course, seeing how the mafia is in a terrible spot. You have to take risks when youre behind. I was actually hesitating to counter claim. I didn't have a check on SW, so I didn't actually know if he was mafia or not. If he was town, I wouldn't have to counter claim at all, since town would figure out TJH is mafia after the mislynch. I would also get another check without risking a roleblock. The only way this would be bad is if I get night killed, but I don't think I was a high prio target for the mafia with the way I was posting. In the end I went with the safer play. Even after claiming, the only way we lose is if HtS, n00b, or Fidei is the last mafia. No need to go for the risky win when you can go for the safe win. OR.......just go ahead and check silentwarrior during night time! Then we know if he's telling the truth or not. | ||
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On July 19 2015 00:37 silentwarrior wrote: Btw, who got roleblocked? Was it scott or wonnaplay? Wonna said no so it's gotta be scott. Judging how much he's been afk I'm not surprised if we only find out until this game ends. | ||
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Also @Half the Sky, please give me thoughts on Fidei vs Tictock that happened a couple pages back. I'm sorry if I didn't catch your response but I believe you never did give one. | ||
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On July 19 2015 07:18 MoosyDoosy wrote: Ez trap Day 1 = clear win for town jkjk I still suck. | ||
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