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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 10:11 GMT
#458
Frankfurt airport is awesome - look for the recline chairs with the charging points if you're in terminal 2. Very comfortable.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 10:19 GMT
#459
@TT It looks like the only person we really disagree on is Scott, but there isn't that much between us on him. You've played with him more than I have so if you're town, I'd tend to rely upon your read on him over mine. I'm still very comfortable policy lynching him, though.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 10:20 GMT
#461
(Also, I should note, I tunnelled you hard and I was *right* ).
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 10:21 GMT
#462
On July 14 2015 19:20 Tictock wrote:
Stuck over by the Z gates since its international. Was looking for a charging station for my gameboy but dont have the right voltage adaptor...

Hopefully there are some decent movies on the flight. On the way out here I watched the entire Hobbit trilogy, was kinda nice to see all 3 movies in one sitting.

You can buy adaptors in terminal 2, so I'm sure you can dig them out in terminal 1 if you look hard enough...
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 10:28 GMT
#464
That's fair enough, I suppose. I also don't think he's been very active in Gaiden, so he might have some RL issues going on. It doesn't exonerate him by any stretch, and I would still policy lynch him, but you've talked me down from actively pushing it for now.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 10:33 GMT
#466
On July 14 2015 19:32 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 19:21 Fidei86 wrote:
On July 14 2015 19:20 Tictock wrote:
Stuck over by the Z gates since its international. Was looking for a charging station for my gameboy but dont have the right voltage adaptor...

Hopefully there are some decent movies on the flight. On the way out here I watched the entire Hobbit trilogy, was kinda nice to see all 3 movies in one sitting.

You can buy adaptors in terminal 2, so I'm sure you can dig them out in terminal 1 if you look hard enough...


And pay Airport prices for Electronics? No thanks.

Currently posting on an iPad which has several games on it plus I have a book I have yet to crack open,

I also am smuggling a large quantity of swiss chocolate, so if it comes to it I can break into that and ride the chocolate high all the way home :p

Become a lawyer, get paid, buy airport electronics. Three step plan for life success bro.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 11:36 GMT
#469
On July 12 2015 05:37 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 21:15 Half the Sky wrote:
noob why the vote on NHM? Can't tell whether your vote is a joke vote or not, the others I can.

If the vote were a joke, I'm not sure what about it is supposed to be funny. Like...what's the joke?

And my joke votes wouldn't go in the voting thread, and that one is in the voting thread. If you want to see a fake vote, you can look at the one on me from Sulfurus. He wastes space with a fakecheck and a fakevote, and then wastes more space by backreferencing them. That's all you get, from his first two posts. His third (and thus far, final) post is him essentially telling Moosy to "do stuff" without actually doing stuff himself. We get roughly the same amount of value from Kelsier's posts, in which he tells people to "start the game" without actually doing anything that would get the game going. If either of Kelsier/Sulfurus are town, they've already got a headstart on being useless town.

Okay, so why the vote on NHM? Two reasons.

1) At the time that NHM votes, there is only ONE player who has really expressed any interest in progressing the game. Fidei86. He was the only one (to that point) who had made a legitimate, "let's start thinking about the actual game itself" type of post. And that is who NHM chooses to vote against: the one player who showed an indication that they might be taking the game seriously.

2) The other reason should not be revealed yet.

@n00bking Did you ever post your response to your point at paragraph 2? If you did, could you link/reference me? If you didn't, can you say now?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 14 2015 17:50 GMT
#475
HTS we're all on tenterhooks waiting for your analysis.

(Well, I am at least ).
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 15 2015 13:03 GMT
#520
Guys I am about generally, but I'm very busy at work, so don't have a lot of time for checking the thread. I'll be on for EOD. Sorry.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 15 2015 21:14 GMT
#548
On July 16 2015 05:59 Tictock wrote:
In the off chance that we are on the complete wrong track here I have a tinfoil hat theory that might become relevant later.

1 Hour to go and still no sign of TJ...

Are we all happy with the choices we have made today?

Also... that mind-meld from Hts and n00b. Exactly my thoughts on GE's post there so I'm thankful for not having to articulate them ^.^


^this
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 15 2015 22:53 GMT
#586
Really sorry Ghandi GG.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 09:52 GMT
#649
Jesus H Chris n00b, you've really written out the *bible*! Remind me to never roll scum when you're in the game!

I'm really sorry about yesterday all, I sort of burned out on the game a little bit after I made the Ghandi post and everyone just went along with it. I thought it was all in the bag ... Clearly not. I'm going to start psyching myself up over the next couple of hours, then attack the game at lunch/this evening.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 18:40 GMT
#657
Okay, I am about and I'm going to go back to the start of the game and see if I can't solve this thing. If you have any specific questions for me, post them now and I'll get to them, I promise.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 18:51 GMT
#659
Got it.

BTW, my tinfoil hat world involves you and n00b being the scum team. But honestly, I think if that's the case then we could just GG now :-)
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 20:21 GMT
#665
Pretty sure that isn't a thing, n00b. Page 23 now. TJH and Wonna looking god awful so far ... let's see if they can pull it back!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 20:45 GMT
#666
On July 16 2015 08:11 TJHuggins wrote:
I reviewed the past few days last night but didn't have time to make a big post. I was going to make one today before the day ended but got home late.

I would have voted for Grokken. I think Ghandi was a mistake.

On page 30 now, but just want to flag up this post, which came AFTER Ghandi flipped town.

This post might win the "no shit Sherlock" award of 2015.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 20:47 GMT
#667
On July 16 2015 08:34 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:16 TJHuggins wrote:
Tomorrow.

If you die where does that leave us? I would like it if you could post it now for me and HtS to dissect.


TJ might be a good person for Medic to visit tonight...

Just sayin.


And this from TT will win the "Derp" award.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 21:18 GMT
#672
Okay, people, I slogged my way through the thread.

My first thought is that it is staggering how much of it is taken up by HTS and n00b. For reasons that have been set out at length, I'm convinced HTS is town, and I agree with HTS that the Sulfurus wagon was as pure as snow. I point this out only because if both of them are still alive at LYLO, I think people should (1) try and get their autographs/shake their hands and congratulate them on one hell of a game, and (2) lynch the living shit out of them. Until we get there, however, we should leave it. They are both clearly extremely strong analysts and if they are not mafia, mafia simply cannot afford to leave them alive through the mid-game. The only thing dissuading them is probably the threat of a medic check (which leads me to think that I'm likely the NK tonight. I hope not though.)

I've written notes on everyone, but honestly I think the scum team is somewhere in Scott, TickTock, TJH and WonnaPlay.

Starting with Scott - the argument is pretty simple. He has mostly AFK'd through the game and he has contributed literally nothing. Ticktock tried to compliment him on the weird copy-paste / colour thing he did, but I just read that as being extremely half-assed.

TickTock has said a bunch of weird things. Top amongst those is wanting to get a medic save on his most scum read player. I'm also still upset that he said that my vote on Sulfurus was somehow ninja, when I telegraphed it a mile in advance. Finally, his voting on Scott then coming off was just bizarre. I don't see a reason to move off a scum read and onto someone you'd been town reading at certain points, just to "make things interesting".

The TJH lynch has been explained at length, and it's almost certainly the correct one. I stopped recording points on him when I got to #7. Also, whereas Ghandi was still trying to solve the game all of D2, TJH did nothing constructive at all.

WonnaPlay is a bit more out of left field, as nobody is scum reading him at the moment. But I think he has been very scummy, for the following reasons:
1. His first list post was just god awful. I've learned a lot about newbie mafia recently from playing a text game with my real life buddies, and one of the classic newbie mafia tells is a list that actually says nothing. LINK. Look in particular at how none of his thoughts actually result in reads, and most end up at a neutral conclusion. The thread was just starting to pick up at that stage, and he may have just felt like he needed to post something.

2. He come back in after the D1 vote and said he would have gone for his top scum read, KSC D1. Fair enough. However, when it comes towards the end of the day, the two wagons were MD and Sulfurus. If I'm town and I've got a choice between a null read and my number two scum read, I'm hammering my scum read every single time, and I'm definitely not just wasting my vote on a third party.

3. He votes on TJH, despite there being rumbles of voting on both of his top scum reads, GE and Scott. And this was when the vote was getting somewhat close.

His last post is a little better (in that it actually seems to be an attempt at reasoning). And while I was writing this, I did come across some things that I initially thought were slips, but actually made sense from a town perspective. Still, of the Grokken/Silent/Wonna triumvirate of "meh", he's the worst. The other two just sound very town-y to me.

Having finished that exercise, I'm not really sure it was worth it. I don't think there's any way that the TJH wagon comes off the rails tomorrow, and I think that is definitely the right move.

I'm going to head home now (I stayed in the office to do this work), but I may not make it home before the Day post. If I day, GGWP all, and say something nice about me at my funeral/NK WIFOM debate.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 21:20 GMT
#673
In reading my post before I sign off, just want to clarify that I don't think the TJH wagon is coming off the rails, and I don't think that it should. I think that he's scum and that we should lynch him 100%.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 16 2015 21:39 GMT
#674
Finally on WonnaPlay (WIFOM alert) KSC was the only one scum reading him.

Yeah okay, so it's a crappy reason, but nobody else has said it yet.
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