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On July 13 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
live reports, basically summarising what has happened in the game so far but not adding anything to it.
What's added to it is their opinions. Most of the positions they take may not be interesting or unexpected. They may not advance us much toward winning the game. But at least they are taking positions, that I can later use to help determine their motivations. I'd rather have players making "shitty list posts" than players that aren't here to participate (Scott) or are here but refuse to participate (Moosy)
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Looking forward to half the players being mod-killed by Day 2, for failure to vote. 
Just by the way, does anyone know of any decent websites for playing Mafia-by-Forum?
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On July 13 2015 05:39 Fidei86 wrote:
Uh ... This one?
NOPE.
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On July 13 2015 06:46 Half the Sky wrote:To the people voting Nydus: Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 06:09 Half the Sky wrote:
My preferred order atm
Sulfurus > MD/NHM (tossup) > Scott
I shouldn't be talking about replacements...but there was a call for one for this game, and I'll just leave it at that.
Unless you know more than what is bolded, your post could just as easily refer to Scott.
Anyway, I have moved my vote to Sulfurus.
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On July 13 2015 06:50 Half the Sky wrote:
If I counted right, the votes are tied 3-3, with MD getting lynched for the tiebreaker.
MD FFS SAVE YOURSELF IF YOU ARE TOWN.
Believe that there are now 4 votes on Sulfurus. You/fidei/Kelsier/me. And in your 3 votes on Moosy, are you counting his own vote? Because it won't/shouldn't count.
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@rsoultin: Again, from the voting rules - "You may not vote for yourself." Doesn't say that it's poor form or bad sportsmanship. It just can't happen.
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On July 13 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
welp thats a lot of confirmed town
Welp, it's the 3 players I already figured were Town (Fidei, HtS, me) and now we added you! Not bad, not bad.
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On July 13 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:
Sulfurus the Mafia Godfather has been lynched.
TJHuggins wrote:
I was refreshing the voting thread and never saw the change? Why was it even included in the first place if it wasn't allowed? That's silly.
U mad, bro? 
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On July 13 2015 07:15 TJHuggins wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote:
We pointed that out in page 15. Nothing was changed after the fact. I'd have responded to you but some mods modkill if you post after deadline and as a moderator myself I didn't want to chance that. You pointed that out but none the less his vote was included in the voting thread for quite some time both before and after. I thought that perhaps it was frowned upon but no strictly forbidden.
That's odd that you would think that, considering that this happened, all the way back on Page 13:
On July 13 2015 02:00 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 23:33 TJHuggins wrote:
I didn't think you were even allowed to vote for yourself. Players may not vote for themselves. So the vote count posted on Page 12 is not completely accurate.
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On July 13 2015 07:32 TJHuggins wrote:
Also doesn't giving people only a warning for not voting a bit of a bad precedent to set? Isn't this essentially akin to allowing each player to make one non-vote each game?
The rules are as clear about the warning for the first failure to vote, as they are about the fact that players cannot vote for themselves.
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On July 13 2015 02:27 n00bKing wrote:Here is Sulfurus' 2nd post in Newbie X (when he was Town): Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 11:34 Sulfurus wrote:
@NinjaBunnies the most important point in this game so far is when Breshke 1st stared pushing on Sicklucker since the conflict between the two has defined the entire game.
Speaking of that, Breshke is my top scum since he continuously pushes against Sicklucker with very bad reasoning (#159 he complains that he has disappeared and hasn't thought critically only 3 hours into the game)
I also scum read Murray due to his weak and untrue accusation against Dis in post #191 which made me think Sick is town since he tried Bandwagoning on him but he has since rescinded his vote. In this game, Sulfurus' 2nd post was just him quoting his own 1st post, in which he fakeclaimed a red check, and made a fake vote that he didn't actually put in the voting thread. In Newbie XI, Sulfurus was lurky, and useless, and SCUM. In this game, Sulfurus is lurky, and useless, and...draw your own conclusions. If Moosy starts actually doing something worthwhile, then I'm all about the idea of just lynching Sulfurus on Day 1 of every game until he stops flipping Red, or starts participating in games.
Guess I'll have to keep waiting!
On July 11 2015 09:18 Sulfurus wrote:
I'm cop with a guilty check on noobking
##noobking
get rekt
Don't eff with the n00b, Sulfurus. 
In addition to the 4 players who voted out the Godfather, I am also randomly townreading GhandiEAGLE for some reason or other. So that's 5 people I feel pretty good about.
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Half the Sky wrote:
If there's a DT, check any of the lurkers/nulls - NHM/Scott/SW/WP
Would be interested in hearing opinions from others, on whether this would be the best use of a Cop's ability. A null is always statistically more likely to be Town than not. So if a Cop just goes stumbling into that group, he can expect to get a Town check back.
The good thing about getting a town check on someone in that group is that you won't mislynch them, when otherwise, it is always tempting to lynch a lurker.
But the bad thing about getting a town check on someone in that group is that...even once you know you can trust them, how much help are you really going to get from them? If Nydus were to come back, and we knew he could be trusted, then maybe that would be awesome, having a vet that is known to be Town, for sure. But right now, I don't see how we can bank on Scott/SilentWarrior/WonnaPlay giving us a lot of assistance in reasoning things out, even if they were known to be Town.
Grokken and TJ have both been much more active. I'm more curious about whether those guys are actually allies of mine, than I am about whether Scott is. And each is suspicious, in his own way. They both had their vote on Moosy while the Godfather was getting lynched. So that's not great. And then:
Grokken - Kelsier hated his list post. I didn't, really. But Kelsier could still be right, even though I didn't see anything. What was more suspicious to me was that when I started to turn thread sentiment against Moosy, Grokken quickly flipped his read on Moosy from Green to Red.
TJ - Being pissed about the Sulfurus lynch isn't necessarily alignment-indicative. Because if he were scum & smart, he would raise hell about it in the scum thread, and not here in the main thread, where it paints him in a negative light. But he could have been WIFOM'ing, or he could have been reacting in an emotional moment, without first thinking about how it would be perceived (as this is his first Mafia-by-Forum game, it sounded like). Moreover, there was something specific about TJ's behavior (that I won't bring to light just yet) that I found suspicious throughout all of Day 1. A town-check on this guy would keep me from spending the rest of the game tunneled on him. lol
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Well HtS was already giving advice to the cop.  heh
I think it's worthwhile for people to give advice to pretty much any role that can use an action.
The only reason for anyone to talk during the Night Phase is to guide the actions of the Blue Roles. That's it. Otherwise, no one should say anything until a minute before the deadline.
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On July 13 2015 08:05 silentwarrior wrote:Hey guys, good lynch. As of now, I think that, aside from those who voted on sulfurus, these two are town: Grokken and MoosyDoosy. MoosyDoosy is a little obvious, sulfurus woulnd't go for him if he was another mafia. And a sacrifice here seems unlikely, seeing as MoosyDoosy was nowhere a done deal, so he could have been saved still. Sulfurus getting on the MoosyDoosy train seems like a way to just vote on the most popular one and slip by. He basically admitted to doing this even. Then Grokken is because of this post: Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 06:22 Grokken wrote:
I figure it's time for me to make an actual post now that the thread is getting more active.
Sulfurus:
Has made a few posts, but only one-liners and contentless posts. I know you are here and reading the thread, why not try to post something more useful? Neutral read so far, maybe slight scumlean. He pings sulfurus as a scum lean fairly early, before any of the recent suspicion started. That means that most likely that they aren't mafia partners, as mafia will not give scumlean to their own partners when there is no other big suspicion on him. This leads me to believe that he is town as well.
Actually, I think that "when there is no other big suspicion on him" is a good time to scumlean a mafia teammate. Because it's unlikely that anything will come of it in the near term. And if something does come of it later, you'd be able to say "I was scumreading that guy since Day 1!"
That post from Grokken is probably a point in his favor, but it still leaves plenty of room for error.
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On July 13 2015 08:25 silentwarrior wrote:
I also lean town on TJHuggins, since he posted that sulfurus was his second on scum list. This was also before any of the voting began, though after sulfurus posted that super scummy post and was tagged for it by Half the sky. Still a good townlean for me.
Also, i get a townvibe from wonnaplay.
Of course, I could be all wrong about this, and mafia decided to sacrifice sulfurus, but dont really think so right now. Regardless, those reamaining that I think the mafia is among is : scott31337, GhandiEAGLE, NydusHerMain. One or two of these three are probably mafia.
Okay, so apparently I don't agree with much that silentwarrior has to say during Night 1.
"Second on scum list" is a fairly commonplace spot for mafia to put their teammates. Say that he looks scummy (in case he gets lynched) but don't actually try to get him lynched, because someone else is first on your scum list.
And for you to be "all wrong about this" doesn't really require mafia to have sacrificed Sulfurus. He could have been lynched against their will, and your reads could still be wrong anyway.
Of course, you having reads that are different from mine doesn't make you scum (and doesn't even make you wrong)...but I still don't have to like it!
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On July 13 2015 09:22 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 08:12 n00bKing wrote: Half the Sky wrote:
If there's a DT, check any of the lurkers/nulls - NHM/Scott/SW/WP Would be interested in hearing opinions from others, on whether this would be the best use of a Cop's ability. Well here's the thing, there are two ways to play this, if there is a DT in this game. Clearing lurkers or red checking them will help you in LYLO - as scum will push a certain way through a game and then boom late game clearing people may catch them off guard. Alternatively you can also look at people whose current behaviour (if reasonably active) are soemwhat questionable or you cannot get a good read on them or if they appear controversial (like some people are townreading and others are scumreading) then they are also good checks. Given the current game state, I think for example Grokken would be a good check in this category.
You were who I was talking to when I said I would be interested in hearing opinions from "others." So by "others" I mean anyone BUT you. 
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On July 13 2015 09:38 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
nonono Sulfurus was busing me. I'm Mafia too guys plz kill me. XD
Alright down to business. Apparently my bait was successful although I wasn't around to catch the slip from Sulfurus. Glad to see that Half the Sky caught it. I'm going to actually work from here on out. Re-reading the thread seriously. anyhow....if you are town, you are in a good position to tell us who the scummers - if any - were on your wagon. Who do you think they were?
He's in an even BETTER position to tell us, if he's scum! :D
MoosyDoosy wrote: tbh I have 2 suspicions but I'd rather wait. If I'm right, I'd rather not say it and die.
So you don't want to be night-killed? You only want to be mislynched?
Don't worry, there's no chance of the bad guys killing you, no matter what suspicions you want to share. You could name the other 2 mafia members, which one has which role, their social security numbers, and what dinner plans they have for tonight, and they still are not killing you.
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On July 13 2015 21:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Grokken's thread sentiment point I did query that earlier and I think noob, you mentioned that too, do you think this response makes sense for the read change? Not sure if you missed it.
I did see it, but that response doesn't really move me either way. Does that answer make sense? Yeah, some. But we could expect him to give an answer that would make at least SOME sense. It's a little early in the game for him to be getting tangled up in his own posts yet, so it isn't like I was hoping he would say "Yep, I changed my read cuz thread sentiment!"
So while I'm slightly suspicious of Grokken, that POST is null, for me. Did it cause any reaction in you?
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On July 14 2015 02:16 Tictock wrote:
This is literally scotts only post, and it is wierd that he would say he needs to reread anything on the 3rd page of the game.
I'm used to town!scott being more involved, so I'm thinking he rolled scum this game.
Yeah, I made the same comment, about it being strange for him to say he needs to "re-read" when we had only just started. Scott COULD be scum here, but man...just how much "mailing it in" can we expect from one scum team? Sulf had like 5 posts, and Scott has 1? That's their gameplan?
Ticktock wrote: Oh also I doubt he [Grokken] would make a list post like this that calls out Sulf so early if he were mafia.
Still think "Neutral read so far, maybe slight scumlean" is not much of a call-out. But I wouldn't push for a vigilante shot on Grokken or anything. So there will be more time to evaluate him. (Though I may not be around for that, since I've been killed on Night 1 in 100% of my TL Mafia games! And Fidei requesting that HtS receive protection clears the way for my demise!)
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On July 14 2015 03:03 scott31337 wrote:
I'm so sorry I forgot to vote guys - deadline and other things blew right by me.
All that posting you were doing in your other game didn't remind you that you were in this game?
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