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n00bKing
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n00bKing
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(Can't have a Newbie game without THE n00b!) | ||
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"I will if you tell me your role." | ||
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On July 10 2015 11:16 Onegu wrote: So I have 12/12 confirmed. But unfortunately F word dude cannot in twice so as soon as we have one more in we will start. I believe F word dude was saying 13/13 because Kelsier came back /in after earlier saying he was /out. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 11 2015 09:14 Fidei86 wrote: My opinion on the ideal town environment is that it is one where everyone contributes, but nobody spams. The best way for townies to get town-read by other townies is to be active, to discuss things and to give your opinion freely. If you're lurking as town, you're actively hurting your own team. Even if you don't say much and make it to the later rounds, and even if you solve the game, you're an easy mislynch if your filter is only one or two pages long. However, at the same time, too much back and forth leads to the thread becoming unmanageable for players with less time -- essentially allowing mafia to hide in amongst the noise. I don't want to over-traffic cop, and I'm hopeful it's not going to be a big problem this game, but ... there it is. Yup. In my last game, I mentioned during Day 1 that this is possibly my favorite part of the General Guide on how to play this game: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos But there ended up being a fair bit of babbling in that game. There's a lot more of it in Gaiden. And there will probably be plenty of it in this game, if the first couple of pages are any indication. But I appreciate you at least trying. | ||
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On July 11 2015 11:06 TJHuggins wrote: My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming. TJHuggins wrote: Who is HTS? Could be anyone, really! ##Vote: NydusHerMain | ||
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On July 11 2015 21:15 Half the Sky wrote: noob why the vote on NHM? Can't tell whether your vote is a joke vote or not, the others I can. If the vote were a joke, I'm not sure what about it is supposed to be funny. Like...what's the joke? And my joke votes wouldn't go in the voting thread, and that one is in the voting thread. If you want to see a fake vote, you can look at the one on me from Sulfurus. He wastes space with a fakecheck and a fakevote, and then wastes more space by backreferencing them. That's all you get, from his first two posts. His third (and thus far, final) post is him essentially telling Moosy to "do stuff" without actually doing stuff himself. We get roughly the same amount of value from Kelsier's posts, in which he tells people to "start the game" without actually doing anything that would get the game going. If either of Kelsier/Sulfurus are town, they've already got a headstart on being useless town. Okay, so why the vote on NHM? Two reasons. 1) At the time that NHM votes, there is only ONE player who has really expressed any interest in progressing the game. Fidei86. He was the only one (to that point) who had made a legitimate, "let's start thinking about the actual game itself" type of post. And that is who NHM chooses to vote against: the one player who showed an indication that they might be taking the game seriously. 2) The other reason should not be revealed yet. | ||
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On July 12 2015 01:31 TJHuggins wrote: I see "silentwarrior" is living up to his name. And "WonnaPlay" apparently does not. It's funny to me that Scott already felt like he needed to "re-read" before he was comfortable saying anything...when we were only 2 pages into the game. | ||
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On July 12 2015 02:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Second post there is sketchier to me, in that it seems serious in its attempts to prod the town, despite not actually bringing up any discussion that will lead to a conclusion. That's a little smelly to me. That said, it's tiny enough that it could fly either way. On July 12 2015 02:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. His first post seems to be more of a first page banter post. The second one is asking for clarification although as you say, it leads nowhere. Grokken's post does not "prod the town" it only prods NHM. And since NHM hasn't responded, I agree with HtS that "there's nothing to follow up on." | ||
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On July 12 2015 05:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: I was an earnest townie last Newbie Student Mafia game with a monster filter. :3 Besides ruXxar everyone pretty much knew I was a townie which is why I want to change things up here and make things interesting. Change things up in what way? Are you saying you want to vary your play? Or do you mean something else? | ||
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On July 12 2015 06:22 Grokken wrote: In conclusion, I think we should try to lynch one of the people who is keeping up with the thread, but aren't making useful contributions. These people are in my opinion more likely to be mafia rather than the people who aren't saying anything at all. At this point, these people are Sulfurus, scott31337 and KelsierSC. AND NydusHerMain, who you conspicuously left out of this group, even though two of your townreads (Moosy and myself) are voting against him. Scott has only one post, but you decide that he's "lurking" and think he's a good lynch. NHM you describe as "inactive" instead, and you want to "wait until he gets back." Why the preferential treatment? | ||
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On July 12 2015 07:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: Ofc vary my play. I'm not sure how you could read this any other way. o.O I could not think of any other way to read it. But I wanted to give you a chance to dig yourself out of that hole anyway, since "vary my play" would be a stupid answer. You were town and you were widely townread, and you were night-killed on Night 2, after I had been night-killed on Night 1. Now you want to "change things up" and "make things interesting" by varying your play, so that people will NOT be able to townread you so easily? How is that good strategy, Moosy? If you're town, shouldn't you WANT your alignment to be evident again, as it was in that game? You sound like you are pre-emptively making excuses for not matching your own town play. So that if someone like Sulfurus or Scott or myself says "Moosy is playing nothing like he did in the last game...where he was town" you'll be able to say "Well I already told you I was going to vary my play this time!" See what I'm saying? | ||
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On July 12 2015 23:33 TJHuggins wrote: I didn't think you were even allowed to vote for yourself. Players may not vote for themselves. So the vote count posted on Page 12 is not completely accurate. | ||
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On July 12 2015 05:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: I see what you're saying but posting the same way would just be boring for me and everyone else. Eh, just keep an open mind about me. Me keeping an open mind is automatic, you don't have to ask for it. But frankly, I could give a shit what is boring for you. If you're Town, help me win! :D On July 12 2015 07:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:Also, n00bKing, you need to stop creating specific scenarios. Like, it's cool you can think that far ahead unlike me but then you'll just fall into the hole that ruXxar did and interpret everything I do as Mafia. We saw his rationale for why he thought I was Mafia and it was pretty convoluted and not pretty. I ain't ruXxar. And I'm sure you're not going to try to say I'm tunneled on you or something, when I haven't voted against you (yet...) On July 12 2015 08:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:Anyway, things are already becoming interesting what with people thinking I'm Mafia. And that's the goal of this game for me. To make life interesting. :3 Again, if you're Town, then I would be happier if your goal for this game was to achieve your win condition, and not "to make life interesting." All of the above are things I could have said last night, but I decided to give you more time, before jumping all over those posts. So that if you were waiting for specific types of reactions from certain players, you would have an opportunity to see what would happen. But I think it's gone on long enough. If there's any method to your actions, it's time to move on to the next phase of the plan. MoosyDoosy wrote: If anyone does want to talk I am in more of a cooperative mindset. So if any of you have questions this is the time to ask. You think so? Because to me, you don't seem like you're in a more cooperative mindset at all. To me, it seems more like you're already picking up some of the WORST habits that some of the veterans have (being obstinate and useless, and adopting an "If you want to mislynch me, then screw you anyway" attitude) instead of trying to develop any of the best habits that any of the veterans have. So yeah, I have a question for you: Why are you playing against the Town's win condition? Is it because you don't have the Town's win condition? Or is it because you aren't following the rules of the game? We know you ignored the rule that says you can't vote for yourself. But IF you are Town, then you're also ignoring this rule: "Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game." I know you've said that you want to make things interesting and keep yourself from being bored. If all you cared about was entertaining yourself, you could have just gone and masturbated. But this game is a TEAM exercise. If you're Town, start helping your team, please. If you're Scum, just keep on keepin' on, since it is obviously getting the votes on you. | ||
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On May 22 2015 11:34 Sulfurus wrote: @NinjaBunnies the most important point in this game so far is when Breshke 1st stared pushing on Sicklucker since the conflict between the two has defined the entire game. Speaking of that, Breshke is my top scum since he continuously pushes against Sicklucker with very bad reasoning (#159 he complains that he has disappeared and hasn't thought critically only 3 hours into the game) I also scum read Murray due to his weak and untrue accusation against Dis in post #191 which made me think Sick is town since he tried Bandwagoning on him but he has since rescinded his vote. In this game, Sulfurus' 2nd post was just him quoting his own 1st post, in which he fakeclaimed a red check, and made a fake vote that he didn't actually put in the voting thread. In Newbie XI, Sulfurus was lurky, and useless, and SCUM. In this game, Sulfurus is lurky, and useless, and...draw your own conclusions. If Moosy starts actually doing something worthwhile, then I'm all about the idea of just lynching Sulfurus on Day 1 of every game until he stops flipping Red, or starts participating in games. | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:09 Half the Sky wrote: On MD, aside from what others have said, I also don't like the comment "creating specific scenarios" - unless you are directly accusing noobking of actually lying about what happened last game, it would otherwise seem he's relating from another game - database on NSM shows what noob said actually happened re: the nightkills so that is a clear indication you were in decent standing amongst the playerbase in that game. In Moosy's defense (since we know he's shown no interest in defending himself) I think the "specific scenario" he was talking about is the one where he says he'll be changing up his play, as a cover for when he later does not play the way he had previously, when Town. I would not count that line as a strike against him (though I obviously have no problem admitting there are strikes against him). | ||
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On July 12 2015 12:11 Half the Sky wrote: Alright, good, thanks for clarifying. I wasn't sure by when you said "flush out" - I usually think "get rid of" but you simply meant "expose" or force them to play. Fair enough. This could be a US vs. UK thing, on how the phrase is normally used. Since EAGLE and I are both in the US, I'll confirm for him that in this context, for Americans, "flush out" would mean to flush out of hiding or flush out into the open, rather than flushing them away. | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:35 Grokken wrote: Mainly because he popped in early on, made 2 posts, then disappeared and hasn't posted since, while the other have made a few more posts. Yeah, no. Sulfurus has had 1 more post than NHM, but Scott still hasn't made a 2nd post yet. The others have not "made a few more posts" than NHM, when you have Scott in that group of others. So NHM remains conspicuous by his absence from your list. I don't think there will be an opportunity to consider seriously pressuring you today, but I'm making this post just as a note to myself (or reminder to anyone that reads my filter later) that Grokken says things that are not true. | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:07 KelsierSC wrote: Groken and Wp look like scum so far . Terrible list posts early in the game. Looks like Fidei and WonnaPlay have both interpreted this post to mean that "list posts are terrible." I interpreted it to mean that you just think THEIR lists are terrible. Can you clarify on that? And if I'm right that you just mean THEIR lists are terrible, please expound on what you think makes the lists terrible. | ||
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On July 13 2015 03:31 MoosyDoosy wrote: This is not a classic scum tell. It's pretty obvious I'm being a shitty townie so his analysis is pretty on point as usual. I really don't see how you guys think I'm Mafia. XD Thanks for the compliment on my consistently on-point analysis! You could totally pocket me, if you were Mafia (and weren't getting yourself lynched today!) | ||
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