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On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote: Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post. There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote: >> do you have anything in the way of reading comprehension? think it's pretty obvious what viva la vida loca is getting at  Yes I do... Starting this road already?  You read LS pretty well, what do you think so far? | ||
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On July 06 2015 07:34 LightningStrike wrote: That is a terrible role to claim Day 1 I don't even know what the hell is going on...... The part that has me actually is knowing about rayn with out playing with him before... | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote: Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p You need to let it go... Meta can be an amazing tool and on Day 1 with out votes it's quite helpful... Just like voting for BM since he rolls scum 80%+ | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote: I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? | ||
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What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum? On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia. My vote is serious now. Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm | ||
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What are you unsure of? I didn't care for his vote, although he does explain it decently here - On July 06 2015 09:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This seems like a major overreaction tbh. Why are you so pissy about my vote? Honestly marv doesn't really look like anything, but Hf calling him out when nothing has happened seems a bit out of the ordinary. I'd imagine town!Hf wouldn't even care about Marv at all considering what an easily-resolved player he is. And I'm not pissy - I just called it a shit vote because, well, it is. On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote: scptt fuck you ![[image loading]](http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/wrong.jpg) | ||
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On July 06 2015 09:27 KelsierSC wrote: i don't remember you dont like hf but uou like ,marv? ??? Expand No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it) | ||
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On July 06 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote: Hi! What's up? What reads do you have so far? What's interested you so far? | ||
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On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote: Pointless Conversation + Show Spoiler + On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.but, but, but... this was our favorite! ;o; judas On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote: Do you normally miss jokes?There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: Do not! Only that one time....it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post.... On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't even....You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote: Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...chem work to do... On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote: This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't. Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before? At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare. I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling. Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him. It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result. Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game) This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda. I don't like this post at all. On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote: strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim? Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy... On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote: You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping. I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul. On July 06 2015 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?user=rsoultin&page=5 Shit load of xP, shes mafia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=rsoultin&page=9 way less xP, shes town. Clearly this is definitive proof that rsoul is mafia. Marv, you arent gonna look at the voting thread unless you vote. Its completely pointless to vote there unless you need to do it to not get modkilled and to actually make your vote count. I assume boxer doesnt exactly know what sheeping is. Good case - could sheep... On July 06 2015 22:57 boxerfred wrote: Okay i hardclaim cop This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion. On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote: Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas. Yeah and im no cop. I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way... I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love. 1) Marvellosity townie after the morning 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town 5) ruXxar slight town 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel 7) Bill Murray wanderer claim 8) ritoky slight town 9) geript slight town 10) boxerfred null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. 11) Meapak_Ziphh 12) Trfel Crap start but can be a big poster too 13) LightningStrike Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases 14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave 18) Breshke Ehh 19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia 20) Damdred Slight town going after LS 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost 23) Harkon Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - town 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread. | ||
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On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote: I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there. I just want to say that before people start sheeping him. Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though. Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all? What do you think of Palmar so far? I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today. | ||
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On July 06 2015 11:48 milo109 wrote: Damn, I want to follow Oats to victory. Let me be the first to call it out from the hilltops, and let all those with pure hearts rejoice, Oatsmaster is town. Then Ruxxar has this post - On July 06 2015 12:03 ruXxar wrote: Oatsy <3 I like where you're going so far. You're showing determination in your play. That's what I wanna see from you. Is there a difference between your mafia scum reads, or is everyone you call mafia equally mafia? Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo. We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there. The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town". | ||
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On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote: parrotstrike xP oh noooooeees i posted another xP oh wait there's another xP o.0 the xPs are just multiplying! xP xP xP xP xP ahem actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good disregard still, milo boring; could lynch lol >< i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP) YET ANOTHER xP! xP over-compensation - extremely suspicious... Referring to above, are you referring to the xP overload or something else? Because it wasn't me who went off on the xP's - so what do you mean? | ||
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On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote: Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty. QUOTE]On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote: I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum. I read this: On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote: scptt fuck you On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote: aight, I can beleeee dat Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too. On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote: Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't. I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain. On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote: It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though. He usually waits to start calling people trash.[/QUOTE] I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case? | ||
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On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote: EBWOP Fixed the quote - my previous message makes it look like I wrote the above. I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case? | ||
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On July 07 2015 20:18 Palmar wrote: Here it is. Initially I read this post because Breshke was throwing around weird "general" type accusations like: "His reads list was lackluster" "some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out" "But it feels like he is reaching" Like this is why I'm only half liking breshke even though I sorta like his case. This is the type of accusations people make when they don't know what they should be saying. But it's both conceivable that Breshke made this shit up as mafia, and that he simply doesn't quite know how to present his findings as town. As almost an afterthought I read scott's post that Breshke highlighted and it's really a terrible post. The biggest thing I'm worried about is that it seems rather unlikely that scott would try to call out the entire mafia team like that if he is mafia. So... as I write this I'm officially waffling. idk what to think about either of them. I really don't think Breshke is mafia either for trying to go after this. He made a decent point and Oats somewhat explained it himself as well. My reads was a copy and paste from my spreadsheet that I'm keeping notes in. I'm updating it along the way. On July 07 2015 20:31 boxerfred wrote: I disagree on "noone should give a fuck". Every claim at every point in the game deserves attention. However I agree, pointing out how interesting it is does indicate that clarity wants to put emphasis on the claim - which he did not do. Although he said that due to him, people were talking "5 pages" about the claim which was simply a lie. I pointed that out alread (roughly page 40something I think) and I will point to that again. That's one of the reasons why clarity still is among my top scum reads! So I'm fine with lynching HF and clarity. I can see that HF is not going to be lynched today although I'm not liking marv yet. He's engaging and discussing, but he's not really making points. However it's day1, he just caught up, so I keep it at a null read and won't lean towards any alignment. I'll re-go for clarity and I'm fine with anyone who joins me on that. ##unvote ##vote clarity_nl So if you are saying you are willing to vote for HF and Clarity - that means the posts at the beginning were a stunt and that they are both mafia? It honestly seems a little far fetched for me. If HF is mafia it's a great pocket post, and I could see him doing it, but I'm siding that he's town right now - including his observations, and how he went after rsoul. | ||
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On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote: I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case? He replies with On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote: It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though. And his reasons are On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote: I hate all these posts. Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy. On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Not feeling an HTS lynch. Try again town. The most townie thing OWS has done all game. My updated spreadsheet - 1) Marvellosity townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo 5) ruXxar slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town 7) Bill Murray wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC 8) ritoky reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS 9) geript slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out 10) boxerfred scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats 11) Meapak_Ziphh No posts still as of yet. 12) Trfel Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him. 13) LightningStrike slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense 14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading 18) Breshke A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town 19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean 20) Damdred Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean 23) Harkon Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out) 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread. @Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy? @Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such? | ||
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On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: I want to lynch ten people. Damdred Scott Ritoky HF HtS Clarity Kelsier LS Rsoul Vaxx(whatever his name is) Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little. This list is awesome - can you rank this at all? Makes me feel that the Ritoky claim is even more legit. | ||
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On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote: People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot. As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me. Vote movement please. He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you. | ||
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On July 08 2015 04:53 boxerfred wrote: This is a huge pile of words that does not say much. No changes apart from HF. My scum reads are clarity, oats, wave, trfel, ritoky. My slight lean is HtS. I explained why I fakeclaimed post and why I abstained from it. In a majority scenario, of course I jump trains. Though I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. What I did was thoroughly explaining my scum reads, then going after Oats. Which I still do. I don't like the list you throw out. Some of the guys you read town are having a town lean on me (e.g. Damdred) although you say they are scum. Why are you reading him town although he's leaning me town? Also, you basically have an opinion on everyone but refrain from putting some real pressure on people? Scott, I'm not buying this as an effort. I put the pressure and my vote on milo almost 24 hours ago. I'm not pressuring anybody? Try again. | ||
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On July 08 2015 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote: I have a lot of trouble lynching cop claims or hts. Wat do Oats thinks you're mafia. | ||
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On July 08 2015 05:07 geript wrote: I kinda want to lynch Scott reasons? | ||
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On July 08 2015 05:17 Trfel wrote: I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread. I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante. If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky. I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her? Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum: Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him. For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting. Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind. HF jokes as vigi in like every game he's town - did you think his claim was serious? | ||
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On July 08 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: ##Vote: Clarity_nl | ||
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On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote: But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next. The nightkills will tell us quite a bit. Or did you forget about that since you fake-claimed? | ||
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Milo claimed two shot cop and was taken off of him Har hard defended Rsoul so we can't lynch her MZ actually posted "let me read" and voted Clarity and the wagon jumped on him Are you still scumreading me Breshke? | ||
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Can we lynch her now Harkon? | ||
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On July 08 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote: HF, since you asked.... Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town.... If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you.... The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it. I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though. | ||
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On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages. Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Why were you AFK for so long? | ||
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On July 08 2015 06:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: forgot the game started. You can look at my TL post history, I'm not very active anymore when I don't have a mafia game to play. If we give you another day will you actually play? | ||
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On July 08 2015 06:46 Breshke wrote: Was Scott not in the thread like 5 minutes ago? Right here. ? | ||
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On July 08 2015 06:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Fam If I vote BM it will be 10. That said, I fucking hate lurker lynches because they are so easy for scum to slip by on. What makes BM different from me? Has BM done anything scummy in the 60 pages I haven't read? Nope - he claimed wanderer and no one else has. On July 06 2015 19:39 Bill Murray wrote: damn i thought i had a role but im just a sleepwalker/wandering townie i have a habit of claiming when im self aware miller type roles i dont want a mistrack on me but feel free to track me and confirm me n1 as statistically speaking i wont be on dead A couple popcorns and that is it. It's basically a hint of "Are you actually going to do shit"? | ||
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98% sure BM flips wanderer though | ||
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No CC.. You're right - saying stupid shit got me in trouble the last game - Refrain from itttttt | ||
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And Ziphh hopefully will keep his word and give his scumreads. | ||
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On July 08 2015 07:04 Breshke wrote: Scott did you answer if you take notes in games? I'm going back to sleep be round later probably I didn't see that post? Yes I have but not as concise since this was my first 25 man, the others were easier to keep track of and basically were lists so I didn't forget people. NSM VIII+ Show Spoiler + Plotspot M Holyflare Scott31337 M Bourneq Damdred VT Slight Townlean ObiWanShinobi Townlean LightningStrike VT TheBloodyDwarf Dead Trfel Dead Townlean Onegu VT VT Recinded Blue ? Bill Murray Dead The Shining cakepie Dead LeiNadk M Bussed me case NSM IX+ Show Spoiler + scott31337 Me/M Tictock Rels plotspot boxerfred M disformation Barakos Sulfurus 27ninjabunnies M Bill Murray Breshke sicklucker batsnacks Guardians+ Show Spoiler + 1. NydusHerMain slight town 2. Onegu slight town 3. VisceraEyes above slight town 4. sicklucker null 5. GGTemplar null 6. Chocolate slight scummy 7. Kickstart null to slight town 8. ritoky townie 9. Fidei86 slight scummy/below templar 10. milo109 null 11. Tictock slight town 12. scott31337 Me 13. Damdred slight town NSM IX+ Show Spoiler + 1) -Celestial- unsure what to think 2) Tictock Mentioned noob twice ? 3) y0su slight 4) disformation Made post about posting lots of smilies, forgot about it - then started remembering readding them 5) scott31337 Me 6) ritoky Null/little more 7) The Shining Townlean 8) Half the Sky Null 9) Superbia Townlean 10) FecalFeast Townlean 11) prplhz Meh 12) sicklucker Crap post 13) Stutters695 Crap post LXXI (this one)+ Show Spoiler + 1) Marvellosity townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo 5) ruXxar slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town 7) Bill Murray Lynched Day 1 Wanderer 8) ritoky reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OWS 9) geript slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out 10) boxerfred scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats 11) Meapak_Ziphh One catch up in the thread post - inactive/scummy 12) Trfel Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him. 13) LightningStrike slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense 14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading - claimed two shot cop 18) Breshke A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town 19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean 20) Damdred Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean 23) Harkon Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town - hard defends Rsoul 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out) 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town | ||
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Nope - not even close - but a no lynch would have been worse. Yes I was a sheep. Have you caught up in the thread yet? What are your scumreads? | ||
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On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote: Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim? It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion. It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped | ||
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The first two were my mafia games - I didn't leave many notes for those - I basically had a list of people playing so I wouldn't forget anybody. I never made one for LX, my first game - I replaced in night 2/day 3 and we won it that day. | ||
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On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote: Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it. He's town. Do you believe both cop claims? | ||
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It's majority lynch so it feels futile trying to go after four people at once (This is my first maj. lynch game, but it feels that way) If I am incorrect in thinking that, let me know. I have an interview tomorrow so I'll pop on in the morning pacific time, and then won't be around until after day post. Leave me any questions if you'd like. | ||
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Unsure if you mean a penny and that's twitter chat, or a polish naval yard. No thanks on either. | ||
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I had a post on HTS and how she questioned me on the wanderer.+ Show Spoiler + On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote: It's a blue sham lets see if it works Kappa Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar. What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question: The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1? Somehow I doubt it. (see bolded in second quote) So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI? Breshke or anyone else - comments? I believed BM's wanderer claim just like I believed your miller claim - because it was in your first post and no one CC'ed. Like I said, BM wasn't a terrible lynch (non but I was pretty confident it was true. Should I not believe your miller claim? | ||
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On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote: Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar. What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question: The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1? Somehow I doubt it. (see bolded in second quote) So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI? Breshke or anyone else - comments? You missed this when I posted it last time HalftheSky. So should I not believe your miller claim either? | ||
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On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts Don't even try it now - What would you like me to answer for you? | ||
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On July 09 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote: eh it's less 6 roles in and of itself is a lot and more if every blue has really claimed this early in the game this is a pretty retarded town xP Why do I think you are scummy and keep posting negative junk (retarded town) and are so angry? Is HF town? Is LS town? | ||
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On July 09 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote: "mafia knows im fake claiming" This is TMI if ive ever seen it Milo only posted in Guardians when he felt the need or had to -and he rolled mafia there. I've got that vibe the whole game so far. | ||
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On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch. Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that. Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. On July 09 2015 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck @MZ & OWS What about my d1 did you not like you did not play MZ? My 98% post? I know you need more then this to get me mislynched, so, please - Help a brotha out. | ||
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On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote: Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them. The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy. So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today It sounds like a possibility of trying to save their RB for another block for the next day is the only thing I could be thinking - pretty risky to stick your neck out like that though, right? My friend fucked up his ankle so I've been driving miss daisy today for him - I'll be on and off - Damdred is toast though. At page 200 now. | ||
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On July 10 2015 03:30 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm really struggling to see how both rsoultin and HF can be town with the way they're shitting up the thread every time they're both around. On one hand you would expect town!rsoultin to stop making weak attacks like "your vote is still on milo, HA, I caught you" but on the other hand you'd expect town!HF to stop writing paragraphs defending himself against every little thing if he thinks rsoultin is scum. My instinct is telling me this as well, but they could just be two townies with their ego's in a pissing contest. In a couple days when one of them is still alive we just lynch the other right? | ||
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On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lool marv you just can't let it go. Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it. Lynch Damdred Lynch Milo tomorrow unless something magic happens and then probably you the next day? You misspelled "my" BTW. | ||
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Inb4 MZ's magic bus theory scum tries to pull on me every game as town even though I've been going after Milo since the beginning of time. Who would you like to lynch tomorrow? Which of us three are the most scummy in your opinion? | ||
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On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote: The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town. Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud.... | ||
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On July 10 2015 06:13 milo109 wrote: Sorry. Lots to address. Who is BF? Am I blanking? Anyway. The case on Scott.. I only just started and I found this gem, He slight town reads everybody but Holyflare. Odd. The only person he calls scum is rsoultin, OWS and I. Millions of town leans can be indicative of mafia. He lobs a softball to MZ, and then says this later, Why? He offered Ziphh another day to play. Why did he want to switch back? Also... Why does no one call Scott on TMI? -_- I'm not, because I think it's a dumb argument. But you notice that they only used the TMI on me. And then his latest post is an attempted catch on me that is dumb. I love how you use my very first list in the thread instead of the latest one to prove your point here instead of my latest. Do you see what has changed? I probably won't update it much anyway from now on - I have a decent grasp of what's going on - it's more of a reminder of who's still here and not to forget anybody. + Show Spoiler + 1) Marvellosity banished townie 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo 5) ruXxar slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town 7) Bill Murray Lynched Day 1 Wanderer 8) ritoky reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OWS 9) geript tracker 10) boxerfred scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats 11) Meapak_Ziphh inactive/scummy 12) Trfel Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him. 13) LightningStrike claimed 2 shot GS with no pressure again 14) Palmar Two shot auror dead n1 -Called boxerfred town 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading - claimed two shot cop 18) Breshke A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town 19) Oatsmaster Is having a few better thoughts lately - but still unsure about him 20) Damdred Tracked to ritoky - probably mafia RB 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean 23) Harkon JAT - Veteran no CC Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town - hard defends Rsoul 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out) 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X mixed bag - Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town Damdred / Milo / MZ / then worry about the other two afterwards. I didn't give MZ a day - I asked if he would be useful the next day if we did - the thread gave him another day. I really didn't want to switch to BM but I did not want a no lynch either. A hindsight mistake now. I wasn't even sure if we would get enough votes for BM and I did want to go back to MZ. Does that make sense? ![[image loading]](http://m.memegen.com/ea2yop.jpg) | ||
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Rsoul: Has played in a immature fashion, but hasn't done anything about the claims at all. Which is weird. But towny. Besides.. Pretty sure she'll vote for HF. Can't go alienating my base, can I? How will I win the general election then? Tell me more about this and why you feel that way. She scumreads HF and will vote for him so you like her, is this correct? | ||
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On July 10 2015 12:50 milo109 wrote: Based on that I have a new town list. Confirmed:xP Oats Trfel EBH Ritoky Scumdred geript LS Harkon. Sigh. Marvel Ruxxar My lynch order: HF Boxer Clarity Scott Vivax WoS MZ HtS OWS Kelsier Breshke Whoever I forgot Scumdred..... such WIFOM But I busted out laughing so that was appreciated. | ||
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On July 10 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote: and yeah...i'm concentrating on people's interactions with me tonereader and all that jazz so i say again, if you don't like it...bite me ^^ What is your scum team at the moment? | ||
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Make a case on me please. You keep scumreading me and I've seen very little reasoning for it. I was busy filter diving and found some things I think I will save for D3, but since you wanted to join in on the fun - On July 08 2015 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As an aside, I don't think milo is mafia. I just wanted to point that out in case someone asks me about it later. What do you think of MZ and Milo at the moment? | ||
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On July 08 2015 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Is Damdred town? Normally I'd have a solid read on him at some point but I don't really have one right now and that bothers me. The more I read it the less I like it. | ||
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On July 10 2015 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol. So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin. I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy. In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk. You cannot keep your fucking days straight even after trying the inactive slide and then magically posting when you are about to get lynched? I know you are better then that. What would you like to talk about? How do you feel about Oats, and HF/Rsoul?Are any of the claims you have been presented so far fake? | ||
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On July 10 2015 14:23 Trfel wrote: It turns out you answered it like 3 posts above, so... I've tried to talk to people a few times, but no one seems to want to talk to me at all. And I can't blame them, I don't really know anything XD I think I'm happy with a Damdred lynch today, and I'm comfortable with the associative milo109 scumread, and still scumreading Holyflare. Why do you think the Milo lynch is associative? | ||
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[QUOTE]On July 10 2015 14:27 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On July 10 2015 14:17 Breshke wrote: Also HF has some balls casing rsoul after LS has gunned someone just sayin not sure what ordr stuff happened in but ye. [/QUOTE] Since you already shit in the pot already - and have read the last 10 pages - what are you saying here? | ||
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On July 10 2015 14:59 Trfel wrote: There are just too many claims  Wouldn't be surprised if at least two are fake. Which claims do you believe are fake? | ||
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On July 10 2015 15:03 Trfel wrote: Two cops feels perfectly reasonable to me... And two roleblockers feels plausible enough. So I really don't know Mafia do not one shot or two shot roles - only town does. If you honestly think BH gave mafia two RB's - Milo has a boat with an open seat for you. | ||
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Are you serious? the person who claims at the slightest emotion of pressure fake-claimed? AHAHAHAHA I am so sick of him claiming on a breath of wind and hopefully he will learn one fucking day - because it does not help town being so panicky - I 99.9% believe the claim though - I believe you are grasping at straws. You seem to have read the thread though, or a summary in the ScumQT | ||
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On July 10 2015 15:21 Trfel wrote: He does it as town, and he knows he does it as town. But this doesn't mean he can't do it as scum, it's not hard to do? Meta that is easily broken is useless. Also, note how he reacted to the early cop claims that people made.... Would he really comment on the stupidity of every single one and then claim really stupidly himself as town? It was basically revealed that LightningStrike was likely a power role early on, yet he (almost certainly) wasn't targeted for night kills and wasn't roleblocked. He claimed in a sea of other blue claims, when as mafia it could likely appear that the game is very difficult. Furthermore, all of the other blue claims made his claim less risky (less chance of counterclaim) and stick out less. Plus, XEliteBluehunter69X (or whatever his name is) claimed the gun for no reason at all. That just adds way more suspicion to LightningStrike's claim. Oh yeah I forgot - I may or may not have a gun. | ||
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On July 10 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote: already said scott -_- damdy milo hf ruxx ???? So if you have some time... | ||
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On July 09 2015 09:49 Breshke wrote: So if damdred is mafia does that mean milo is mafia? Or could there be two mafia RB with this many roles I'm not sure So do you believe in this two mafia RB theory as well Breshke? | ||
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I really hope LS didn't derp and give a gun to who I think he did.... :/ Geript has a magic read on WoS and for now I'm going to go with this. Ruxxar has been playing so differently then his last game and decent thoughts I'm going that he's still town. BF hasn't stuck out on me much has changed from his D1 and is still a scumlean. MZ is really bad and should be VIGI'ed or lynched D4 after Milo. Milo needs to be lynched D3 and I've been going after him since the middle of D1 - so when he flips mafia (unless there is two 2 RB's which I'm extremely doubtful still on) Some peoples views may turn around finally or I can me more confident they are mafia trying to mislynch me. Trfel has been pretty useless still and is a scumlean. LS Conf town KSC had a good day one but has been falling into the cracks - he still gets a slight townlean Breshke I still think is townie from his point of view and what he's been trying to do. Oats has been having some good thoughts and a townie POV - townloan Rsoul - her and HF - Gahh their shitfights and pissing contests all the time - HF sees my thoughts and ideas a lot clearer though. HtS - 1st post miller - has good thoughts in the thread but can also be really posty as scum - townlean Harkon - 99% sure vet BlueHunter - he's been pretty bad but his list post of Damdred milo meapak trfel Kelsier obi matches a lot with my thoughts as well which would be the only positive right now. I'll be finishing the thread and adding any extra thoughts but won't be around for the next few hours it's GF's day out | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3. I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia. Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two? This is a pretty bad idea - I just was filter diving on who talked about/with Damdred - You, Boxer, Trfel and Milo looked the worst, and Breshke, HalfTheSky and Vivax look much more interactive with him. What do you think of Boxerfred? | ||
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On July 12 2015 14:41 Half the Sky wrote: I just glossed through Damdred's filter - he's hardpushing Trfel (how does that make him look bad???) and the ONE interaction he has with BF is NAI on BF. Quicksearch on OWS in his filter shows jack all. What on earth are you talking about? Not on Damdreds filter - on other peoples filters with their interactions with Damdred. Maybe you misunderstood me there. When you search say - your filter (ie click filter, load all, ctrl-f "damdred") It shows lines of variations and where damdred is in their filter (and it's not necessarily their name - It's where they quote him as well is what I am taking account in as well) Does that make sense? | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:59 Vivax wrote: First time I witness HF martyring and it kinda makes me want to townread him. It's just a terrible time to be martyring though - I could understand if he wanted to tomorrow though. | ||
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On July 12 2015 23:48 Harkon wrote: Ok, there is scum between rsoultin and HF and maybe we should just lynch both of them after milo to get rid of it. Fortunately I won't be here and won't have to argue with whoever it is we are lynching first. ***REMEMBER THIS POST*** | ||
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