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hi fam I'm here, let me read thread and shit
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lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.
Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often.
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On July 08 2015 06:22 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.
Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Maybe next time you start reading the thread before it is almost deadline. forgot the game started homes my bad
I do apologize to everyone bc I was looking forward to playing this game and I hate folks who do what I did but w/e shit happens.
In other news, look very hard at the last 10 people who have voted for me after I flip.
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On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.
Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Why were you AFK for so long? forgot the game started. You can look at my TL post history, I'm not very active anymore when I don't have a mafia game to play.
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On July 08 2015 06:30 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.
Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Why were you AFK for so long? forgot the game started. You can look at my TL post history, I'm not very active anymore when I don't have a mafia game to play. If we give you another day will you actually play? Yeah, hence why I'm still trying to catch up.
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On July 08 2015 06:35 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:34 LightningStrike wrote:On July 08 2015 06:32 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 06:31 LightningStrike wrote: Honestly I want to switch votes and willing to consolidate with anyone if we can get a mass switch to someone. what... I have a weird feeling that MZ is town based on how fast and little resistant the wagon has been. How could scum possibly defend MZ????? It's very easy to defend me because they know I will flip green. I haven't gotten to the point where people started calling for my death but I'd be suspicious of people who soft defended me.
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So while I'm always a fan of not lynching me, is there a reason the alternative is BM and not someone like trfl? Granted I'm on page 63 rn but trfl is worse than an afk because he's actively shitting up the thread.
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Fam
If I vote BM it will be 10. That said, I fucking hate lurker lynches because they are so easy for scum to slip by on. What makes BM different from me? Has BM done anything scummy in the 60 pages I haven't read?
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On July 08 2015 06:48 Breshke wrote: MZ what makes BM different is you know you are town but you don't know he is town. Seems fairly simple Right but my question is if there are enough people on line which there seems to be then why don't we go for someone like trfl, milo, or even vivax who is looking worse the more I read?
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Like idk why it's such a strange question. I always try to vote for the scummiest person in my mind. A lot of you seem really hesitant to lynch either BM or myself, my question is do any of you actually find BM scummy or are you looking for an easy lynch now that I'm active and lynching me has gotten harder.
Why would you willing vote for someone you don't think is scummy. And again, maybe I just haven't gotten to the part where BM acts super scummy yet so if someone would link me I'd be happy.
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On July 08 2015 06:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 06:48 Breshke wrote: MZ what makes BM different is you know you are town but you don't know he is town. Seems fairly simple Right but my question is if there are enough people on line which there seems to be then why don't we go for someone like trfl, milo, or even vivax who is looking worse the more I read? you want to lynch the cop claim after all? who cop claimed?
I missed it, I'm sorry
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Sigh.
I know my own innocence. I think it's terrible to vote for someone just for the sake of killing them and I'd love to go after one of the actual people I'm suspicious of but if we HAVE to have a lynch today then BM it is.
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On July 08 2015 06:54 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 06:50 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 06:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 06:48 Breshke wrote: MZ what makes BM different is you know you are town but you don't know he is town. Seems fairly simple Right but my question is if there are enough people on line which there seems to be then why don't we go for someone like trfl, milo, or even vivax who is looking worse the more I read? you want to lynch the cop claim after all? who cop claimed? I missed it, I'm sorry ritoky first and then milo. ritoky claimed 1 shot and then milo 2 shot. Ok thanks, I'll have to reevaluate Milo once I've fully caught up
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On July 08 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote: We have 14.
98% sure BM flips wanderer though This shit right here -_-
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On July 08 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote: We have 14.
98% sure BM flips wanderer though If you are town.
And you think this.
Then why the fuck are you voting him and not me or anybody else?
Are you 99% sure I'm town?
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inb4 scott says
"oh gosh darn, I always knew he was green, just had that feeling ya know? Oh well guys what can ya say"
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and milo whatever the fuck you claimed in order to get the heat off of you is worthless in my mind until you can prove it.
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On July 08 2015 07:04 Holyflare wrote: lol all of these fake reactions
i literally couldn't give a shit if he flipped town ^honesty looks a lot better than fake surprise/indignation
now let's wait for all the people who weren't around at the deadline to come in and say how bad we were and how they knew BM was town.
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On July 08 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 07:08 milo109 wrote: I used my two checks instantly and MZ/HolyFlare are both red. How can you get both of your checks back so fast when I don't think you can use both of your checks in 1 night? He's probably trolling at this point, idk why people gave him a pass.
I hope the pages I haven't read prove illuminating
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On July 08 2015 07:30 milo109 wrote: Anyone who thinks I was joking is insane. That switch was orchestrated. MZ is so obviously mafia just based on his posts... See. I like information. ohhh yes story time
Tell me who orchestrated the switch?
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Ritoky literally has the worst claim NA which makes me sad bc I just remembered I know him from one of the Cell Mafia games like a year ago and he was pretty good in that one.
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Also I can't tell if I think Vivax is scum bc of his actions or because he's acting like a jackass
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On July 08 2015 07:48 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote: Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim? It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion. It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped I'm currently on page 76, plz this is taking forever the way you fucks spam.
And it doesn't really matter how you came to the conclusion he was town, what matters is how you handled this information. If you think someone who is "98%" town, you don't lynch them for information or for the sake of having a lynch. Especially not when they're playing like BM and their death gives you literally nothing. If BM really was 98% town for you then you should have been trying your hardest to get someone else lynched, if not me then another scum read.
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On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote: I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way?
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On July 08 2015 08:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote: I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? He's not a bad shot at all. If you don't step up, I'd still rather you be shot on policy alone. k. I'm still trying to decide if vivax is actually scum or if I just don't like the way he's playing.
As of page 95 I am also warming up to your oats stuff.
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On July 08 2015 09:08 KelsierSC wrote: mae did you died Are you referring to me?
I'm here, currently on page 112 which means if my memory serves I should be getting close to where I first posted.
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On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote: I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant This question?
Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).
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On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote: I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant This question? Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum). alrightt why? Why what? Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that? Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment Why do I now think he's scum?
If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.
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On July 08 2015 09:23 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote: I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot. Geript do you still feel this way? you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant This question? Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum). alrightt why? Why what? Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that? Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment Why do I now think he's scum? If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose. the 4th one I think geript is town and trfel is scum. Vivax chainsaws trfl by attacking geript but then when the heat is off of trfl vivax decides now it's ok for trfl to die in one single cop out post.
On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote: All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.
Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS.
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On July 08 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote: I decided that Trfel can die too, so if HF wants a lynch on him he can have my vote.
I saw no elaboration on his scott scumread and the talk about LS looks like he just needed that read to have something to talk about. His HF suspicion fell into the water as well.
Instead what we get are a bunch of apologetic posts and empty promises.
about face
Honestl vivax just can't keep his story straight, I could right a longer analysis but I have a bigger fish to fry that I'll spend y time on but I'll leave you with this:
On July 08 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: This game is insane, at the start of the day with plenty of room to do things, some people go nuts about Trfel. When at the end of the day it turns out he didn't deliver jack for real, they start lynching into cop claims.
If you remember, vivax himself was one of those people going nuts about trfl but now he's trying to set himself up for an "I told you so" moment after trfl doesn't deliver.
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Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
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On July 08 2015 09:41 KelsierSC wrote: have you played with vivarino before? umm maybe a long time ago? My last game was like a year ago so my meta reads are gonna be rusty at best.
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On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
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On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
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I finally got to Milo's claim and for the record I think it's complete bullshit
cc: the people who were asking me if I wanted to lynch a claimed cop earlier.
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On July 08 2015 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I finally got to Milo's claim and for the record I think it's complete bullshit
cc: the people who were asking me if I wanted to lynch a claimed cop earlier. Especially since my first red read posted this:
On July 08 2015 04:26 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm inclined to believe milo over ritoky, there is the tiny chance they're both cops but...... This claim makes no sense from scum
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Ok so I've finally finished reading the fucking thread. Here are my scum reads in order from most likely to least likely:
WaveofShadow Clarity_nl Scott Milo Vivax trfel
I'd like to see us lynching into that list tomorrow. I'd appreciate not getting shot by any cowboys trying to be fucking clever tonight. I'll write up a more detailed explanation of Wave later. I'm gonna go eat dinner/watch TV/play league or something
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morning everyone, I still want to lynch milo since nothing he's written has in any way seemed townie.
I also think Wave is probably scum skating under the radar.
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ppl I hate WIFOM as much as the next guy but bear with me for a second.
I come back in the thread and martyr=someone will call me mafia because obviously I'm scum giving up I come back in the thread and immediately hop on the BM train=someone will call me mafia because obviously I'm scum trying to save my own neck I come back in the thread and try to actually play the game=someone will call me mafia because obviously I'm scum trying to reason my way out of a lynch
My point is that regardless of how I entered the thread, you can find some sort of scum motivation for it.
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On July 09 2015 04:22 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: morning everyone, I still want to lynch milo since nothing he's written has in any way seemed townie.
I also think Wave is probably scum skating under the radar.
discuss Tell me the story of milo claiming 2shot cop after attention shifts to him, after town!ritoky already claimed 1shot cop? I could get onboard with wave but it's hard to tell one way or the other, he's just not playing the game much. He was nonchalant early game which I liked but he didn't care at all who got lynched. The way I was reading the thread, milo could see pressure was starting to build up against him and had seen how ritoky's claim had made people more hesitant to lynch him so he threw one out of his own:
On July 08 2015 04:14 milo109 wrote: Sigh. I'm two-shot cop. Fun fun fun.
That just screams apathy to me, his stated reason for his claim is so that he doesn't get lynched. It may have shifted attention to him but come on, what town is actually gonna lynch a claimed cop D1. He knows he's bought himself at least a day with that play and two shot cop is not hard to fake. D2: "Oh guys so I checked one of the dead people, looks like they were <insert alignment> hurr durr." D3: "Oh guys I checked <insert name> and they're scum." Seriously, cop is so easy to fake as scum lol. If he survives tonight and doesn't produce a check I'm all for lynching him tomorrow.
I was already to go after wave but then a couple people were discussing his meta and since I haven't played in a year my meta data bank is outdated so I'll have to wait for wave to post more.
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On July 09 2015 04:51 Clarity_nl wrote: Does this mean you think ritoky is town, MZ? Between milo and ritoky and I think ritoky is more likely town. I in no way have a green read on him but I'd say he's a lot less suspicious to me than the people I had on my earlier list.
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On July 09 2015 05:02 marvellosity wrote: Reason:
two people have claimed cop, ritoky and milo
after ritoky claimed cop he's done the bare minimum to be active, involved after milo claimed cop, he's at least been in the thread, giving reasons, being positive
i think milo looks better than he did before the cop claim, actually doing things, compared to ritoky, who... meh
don't like the milo push. lol well let's see what happens tonight. If milo is a cop he should be a much higher target than ritoky seeing as he's two shot.
And milo's activity after claiming has been less than stellar. I'd be red reading him anyway without his terrible claim because of how bad his reads are.
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On July 09 2015 05:06 marvellosity wrote: srsly, go read both their filters since their claims
and come back to me with a straight face and say milo has done less
i DARE you I really don't give a shit about activity, I give a shit about what they've said. Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then.
Milo started a halfassed push on me after the day post and that's really it. Just being active doesn't give you an automatic green card. If shit was that simple then we'd just start lynching people based on post count. I don't believe milo's claim and I don't think anything he's said townie.
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Marv have you reread milo's post lynch filter lately?
I'll summarize it for you:
MZ is a better lynch than BM Shoot MZ tonight List of scum (terrible list tbh) Case on MZ
If that's the sudden green explosion you saw I'm missing it
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On July 09 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +That just screams apathy to me, his stated reason for his claim is so that he doesn't get lynched. It may have shifted attention to him but come on, what town is actually gonna lynch a claimed cop D1. He knows he's bought himself at least a day with that play and two shot cop is not hard to fake. D2: "Oh guys so I checked one of the dead people, looks like they were <insert alignment> hurr durr." D3: "Oh guys I checked <insert name> and they're scum." Seriously, cop is so easy to fake as scum lol. If he survives tonight and doesn't produce a check I'm all for lynching him tomorrow. Show nested quote +Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then. milo mafia, ritoky town got it makes perfect sense to me Apathy is different from just straight fucking off lol, come on you're being obtuse now, do I have to explain it?
Apathy means milo doesn't really care about his claim and he's just throwing it out there. He knows it will save him so he just throws it out there.
Fucking off (a very technical english term) means he's not even in the thread, he's not reading.
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On July 09 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:16 ruXxar wrote:On July 09 2015 05:09 marvellosity wrote: i just can't understand the rationale
ritoky claims 1-shot cop, milo claims 2-shot:
1-shot is less risky mafia claim milo's claim comes AFTER ritoky's, so he decides to claim the same thing but with 2-shot?
milo has given multiple reads since his claim ritoky has wishywashyed around
yet no mention of ritoky, and milo is mafia?
read MZ's post #5 on this page, all the reasoning he gives for milo applies MORE to ritoky... ?????? To be fair, he no longer had the option of claiming 1-shot, so that's not really a point in his favor. If he claimed 1 shot to contest ritoky, then we'd basically have to kill them both and kill 1 mafia guaranteed. With the claim of 2-shot he can just produce any random green check as Mafia and still live for multiple days. of course he did you can have multiple one-shot of the same role. none of your points make sense Ok Marv let's switch this up. Why are you so certain milo is town?
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On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote: If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't. Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch" On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote: I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows. You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway? There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all. Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch. I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly. geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people.
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On July 09 2015 05:38 marvellosity wrote: no MZ. it's too late for you. lol
ur cute marv, all of Palmar's attitude but none of his skill.
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On July 09 2015 05:39 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote: If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't. Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch" On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote: I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows. You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway? There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all. Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch. I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly. geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people. So? Does that invalidate my point in any way? Yes actually because whatever point you're driving at here seems predicated on HF being the biggest proponent of the BM lynch when it reality he was really no more for the switch than several other people who were in the thread.
But let's get to the bottom of this. Are you trying to say that if HF was the only one pushing for BM it makes him scum?
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On July 09 2015 05:43 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:38 marvellosity wrote: no MZ. it's too late for you. lol ur cute marv, all of Palmar's attitude but none of his skill. Major scumMZ flashbacks right now. Ridiculing his attackers. Nah I'm just not interested in talking to marv anymore since he couldn't find it within himself to answer my question.
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On July 09 2015 05:46 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:39 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote: If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't. Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch" On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote: I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows. You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway? There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all. Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch. I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly. geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people. So? Does that invalidate my point in any way? Yes actually because whatever point you're driving at here seems predicated on HF being the biggest proponent of the BM lynch when it reality he was really no more for the switch than several other people who were in the thread. But let's get to the bottom of this. Are you trying to say that if HF was the only one pushing for BM it makes him scum? You are twisting my arguments. I never said HF was the only one - that would be a ridiculous statement. I am saying that him pushing BM hard over you is scummy. Especially since he said he did not care about the lynch. Especially because you were a "lock scum lynch" for him until you posted some irrelevant stuff and BM was playing "exactly like in his last town game". Ah see now we've gotten somewhere. Again though, several other people expressed similar concerns about BM's town play, does their decision to vote for him over me make them look scummy too?
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On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote: the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense
my milo read is but a bitpart Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored.
I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread.
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On July 09 2015 05:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote: the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense
my milo read is but a bitpart Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored. I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread. yes your explanations are bad because they don't come from a natural standpoint. that's kinda the point of it. Well that's incredibly subjective but if you've made up your mind there's no point in me discussing this further with you.
Anyway I'm going to a concert, I'll be gone around the night post. If someone vigis me plz look at my scum list and go after any one of wave, scott, milo, or clarity.
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Soooppppppp concert goof but you ppl better
milo you get dem plays there that 0lay on clarify making me rethink
But like if fsmdred is scum that makes ritoky town which still out me on the fence Wirth you.
Also waves last through posy make me think he's solid scum now fuck ppls meta read. I guess we have to figure out this fsmdred ritoky shit today but I wannalynch wave tomororq.
Peaceceeeddds
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Guys ss I'm giving home but I should probably siber up and stuff but tbh I agree with obiwanshinobi that's we should leave this claim shit for now and focus on other scummy ppl. Sadly he thinks I am a bu o want to focus on wavs.
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On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch.
Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that. Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck
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On July 09 2015 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch.
Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that. Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck tell me how scotts day 1 was really bad. Rain check this ulqyedtion and I'll answer it tomorrow when I wake up
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lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it.
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On July 10 2015 03:49 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it. Lynch Damdred Lynch Milo tomorrow unless something magic happens and then probably you the next day? You misspelled "my" BTW. lol you literally only show up in the thread when someone says your name which means a) you're reading and b) you're probably scum for active lurking
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On July 10 2015 03:58 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 03:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 03:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it. Lynch Damdred Lynch Milo tomorrow unless something magic happens and then probably you the next day? You misspelled "my" BTW. lol you literally only show up in the thread when someone says your name which means a) you're reading and b) you're probably scum for active lurking Who said his name? :S I said it in my previous post
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On July 10 2015 04:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it. can't hold it back anymore I know it may be hard for you to entertain a world where you're wrong about something, however you have already flipped sides on ritoky/milo but it's ok for you because you did it for the "natural reasons" whereas my read based on their attitudes to the game was "wrong."
Anyway if you could pull your head out for a minute and look at wave/vivax/scott that'd be great
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On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote: Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.
NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.
Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now. wave has literally all the trappings of an apathetic who's had a couple team members caught in the last day. Also Palmar had him on a scum list and I'm always inclined to give weight to dead Palmar's reads.
I agree lynching HF is a terrible idea though.
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On July 10 2015 04:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 04:03 marvellosity wrote:On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it. can't hold it back anymore I know it may be hard for you to entertain a world where you're wrong about something, however you have already flipped sides on ritoky/milo but it's ok for you because you did it for the "natural reasons" whereas my read based on their attitudes to the game was "wrong." Anyway if you could pull your head out for a minute and look at wave/vivax/scott that'd be great i love your digs, they're hilarious i'm one of the least tunnelly players on TL Mafia, and i am literally always entertaining the idea i'm wrong. Ask anyone. Well I'm glad I'm keeping you entertained.
So since you've caught the damdred/milo/MZ scum team talk to me about the final two scum?
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On July 10 2015 04:20 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 04:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote: Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.
NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.
Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now. That's like really surprising to me. WoS doesn't even seem interested in the game at all, how on earth could you feel so strongly one way or the other about his lynch? :s I hope you find a way to explain before the end of n2. I just got out of a game with scumWave and I've played half a billion games with him. It's a lot of little things. Our interactions. How he jokes with me. And his first post. I put a lot of stock in early posts especially for townreads. Plus, I think he would've said a little more. Like Wave learned to play mafia with me when there was more of a 'thread sentiment' focus imo. And he has a really unique and interesting way of looking at how to approach why and when to post as mafia. And I'm pretty sure he'd post a bit more. Maybe not much but a bit more. I'd also like to point out that what MZ is saying is wrong. I don't think Wave or Vivax has posted since the day began. I'm quite sure Vivax hasn't since I just filtered him. That gives me a little pause but meh. Either way, it's really, really stupid to make an apathetic argument for either of them imo. No you're partially wrong. Wave has posted this:
On July 09 2015 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote: I remember thinking Trfel is town purely because he is playing nothing like the last game where I was scum with him, but I feel like that on its own is kinda silly.
Most of all he's likely town simply because he doesn't act/play this terribly as scum.
brb
On July 09 2015 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote:On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts I knew you roleread him haha WOS, HTS and rsoul and anyone else that is around whats your reads on EBH He named 3 people (KSC, OWS and myself) before and asked people opinions on them. I assume this is because he scumleans on us or w/e which i find odd because those two are some of my top townreads. He also complains about people not putting effort into the game when he does nothing himself which isn't alignment indicative just irritating. I mean I've been skating (u gotta sk8) but for him to assume he's done anything but is silly. There's some odd stuff in his filter to be sure (open 'bluehunting,' trying to steer active and useful conversation, his most recent 'KP-carrying' post) but I can't be certain it's mafia indicative necessarily. The worst thing about what you mentioned Breshke is that he asks for opinions without giving any concrete thoughts himself which reeks of fishing for thread sentiment. Could be scum I suppose.
On July 09 2015 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh also I remember not feeling rsoul this game for whatever reason. Doesn't feel like same rsoul who I pocketed via arguments in whatever game that as.
Also maybe HF 'cause HF
On July 09 2015 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote:On July 09 2015 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh also I remember not feeling rsoul this game for whatever reason. Doesn't feel like same rsoul who I pocketed via arguments in whatever game that as.
Also maybe HF 'cause HF
lol pocketed. selective memory Totally would have won that game if I didn't let yamato convince me to shoot you
I don't wanna get into another semantics argument like I did with marv but this seems pretty apathetic to me. He's in the thread but he's barely talking about the game.
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On July 10 2015 04:44 Clarity_nl wrote:MZ If you're gonna go with "apathetic is scum" then how are you ignoring this post? Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 09 2015 09:54 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 09 2015 09:51 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 09 2015 09:49 Breshke wrote: So if damdred is mafia does that mean milo is mafia?
Or could there be two mafia RB with this many roles I'm not sure Pretty much. On the other hand if damdred somehow flips JK I think milo is likely town and ritoky scum.But I expect damdred to flip scum. Eh this isn't true actually. NVM. Looks like milo is gonna take his time, I'm going to bed. WoS would be cool if you could shared some reads and such. I had a few I thought of earlier but now I forget them. Gimme a bit I guess. I'm totally not feeling this game Somebody vig me lol I honestly don't know what you mean, if I was to write an analysis of wave that post would be the centerpiece of why I think he's apathetic scum just skating by. Of course nobody is going to vig him, he knows that. What a worthless post to make if you're town. But if you're scum it's alright, it's helping you telegraph to everyone to excuse your bad play. Townies don't need excuse for bad play, even if you're not feeling the game you can still read the thread and provide opinions. I've had games where I'm just not feeling it but the least I can do is try to appear town so as not to confuse things even more. Wave isn't doing this, he's trying to excuse his fairly blatant antitown play.
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On July 10 2015 05:01 milo109 wrote: Boxer. That is idiotic. If I'm mafia, Damdred is probably mafia with me. In that case, WHY WOULD YOU RATHER KILL REGULAR MAFIA INSTEAD OF ROLEBLOCKER. Roleblocker is their best role. The WIFOM made my brain explode
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On July 10 2015 05:04 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 04:59 Harkon wrote:On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote: Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him. Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first. Okay, So, milo claims to be blocked. My point stands. Fine with damdred as long as we don't forget/kill milo at night. ##unvote ##vote DamdredIt's also fun how HF instareads me scum though I'm really trying to help. Also it's noteworthy that while the whole thread says "lynch damdred" I say "lynch milo" instead. would've been way easier for me to stick with damdred. Saying something controversial doesn't mean you're town, it's the same situation where I didn't want to immediately lynch BM.
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On July 10 2015 05:10 milo109 wrote: I have no reason to be reasonable in this game. My fate is out of my hands, and that is quite frustrating. If BH put two roleblockers in the setup, I'm most likely dead. If he didn't then I can play the game. I'll leave a legacy if I die, but it will probably be ignored. martyring really doesn't help your case right now tbh. If you're town and want to live then the least you can do is cut out with the woe is me posts and start reeling in some solid scum reads.
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On July 10 2015 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:04 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 04:59 Harkon wrote:On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote: Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him. Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first. Okay, So, milo claims to be blocked. My point stands. Fine with damdred as long as we don't forget/kill milo at night. ##unvote ##vote DamdredIt's also fun how HF instareads me scum though I'm really trying to help. Also it's noteworthy that while the whole thread says "lynch damdred" I say "lynch milo" instead. would've been way easier for me to stick with damdred. Saying something controversial doesn't mean you're town, it's the same situation where I didn't want to immediately lynch BM. Did you just scumslip or are you just really confident that boxerfred is town? No lol, boxerfred seems to be implying that people should think he's town because he's saying something controversial and I'm pointing out it doesn't work like that and used my opposition to the BM lynch as an example: i.e. people shouldn't be townreading me simply for opposing the BM lynch.
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On July 10 2015 05:14 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 10 2015 05:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:04 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 04:59 Harkon wrote:On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote: Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him. Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first. Okay, So, milo claims to be blocked. My point stands. Fine with damdred as long as we don't forget/kill milo at night. ##unvote ##vote DamdredIt's also fun how HF instareads me scum though I'm really trying to help. Also it's noteworthy that while the whole thread says "lynch damdred" I say "lynch milo" instead. would've been way easier for me to stick with damdred. Saying something controversial doesn't mean you're town, it's the same situation where I didn't want to immediately lynch BM. Did you just scumslip or are you just really confident that boxerfred is town? No lol, boxerfred seems to be implying that people should think he's town because he's saying something controversial and I'm pointing out it doesn't work like that and used my opposition to the BM lynch as an example: i.e. people shouldn't be townreading me simply for opposing the BM lynch. Okay let me rephrase, what do you think of boxerfred? well to be honest I hadn't thought much about him until HF started questioning him just now and he seemed to get really defensive. Like if you're town and you're getting called out you don't have to immediately clam up and lash out. I don't really think it's enough for me to suddenly want him dead but it certainly has given me pause for thought.
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On July 10 2015 05:15 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 10 2015 05:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:04 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 04:59 Harkon wrote:On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote: Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him. Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first. Okay, So, milo claims to be blocked. My point stands. Fine with damdred as long as we don't forget/kill milo at night. ##unvote ##vote DamdredIt's also fun how HF instareads me scum though I'm really trying to help. Also it's noteworthy that while the whole thread says "lynch damdred" I say "lynch milo" instead. would've been way easier for me to stick with damdred. Saying something controversial doesn't mean you're town, it's the same situation where I didn't want to immediately lynch BM. Did you just scumslip or are you just really confident that boxerfred is town? No lol, boxerfred seems to be implying that people should think he's town because he's saying something controversial and I'm pointing out it doesn't work like that and used my opposition to the BM lynch as an example: i.e. people shouldn't be townreading me simply for opposing the BM lynch. At no point I asked HF to read me town. I was just giving reasons to not scum read me for that post. You didn't outright ask him to but it sure was implied. Your argument was this "Hey look I just said this stuff that put me on the spot" with the unspoken implication that "everyone knows mafia don't like being put on the spot."
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On July 10 2015 05:22 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:15 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 10 2015 05:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:04 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 04:59 Harkon wrote:On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote: Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him. Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first. Okay, So, milo claims to be blocked. My point stands. Fine with damdred as long as we don't forget/kill milo at night. ##unvote ##vote DamdredIt's also fun how HF instareads me scum though I'm really trying to help. Also it's noteworthy that while the whole thread says "lynch damdred" I say "lynch milo" instead. would've been way easier for me to stick with damdred. Saying something controversial doesn't mean you're town, it's the same situation where I didn't want to immediately lynch BM. Did you just scumslip or are you just really confident that boxerfred is town? No lol, boxerfred seems to be implying that people should think he's town because he's saying something controversial and I'm pointing out it doesn't work like that and used my opposition to the BM lynch as an example: i.e. people shouldn't be townreading me simply for opposing the BM lynch. At no point I asked HF to read me town. I was just giving reasons to not scum read me for that post. You didn't outright ask him to but it sure was implied. Your argument was this "Hey look I just said this stuff that put me on the spot" with the unspoken implication that "everyone knows mafia don't like being put on the spot." Nah. My post was more of an ironic "well you read it that way, you can also read it that way. your read is stupid." At least that's how it was meant. Ok that's fair. I'm inclined to believe this for now.
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gonna go ahead and vote damdred bc idk if I'll be around at the deadline.
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Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol.
So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin.
I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy.
In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk.
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On July 10 2015 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol.
So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin.
I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy.
In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk. I want you dead. Why dont you wanna get vigged? Uh because I'm town and there are scummy as fuck people out there who should be vigi'd instead.
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On July 10 2015 13:59 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol.
So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin.
I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy.
In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk. You cannot keep your fucking days straight even after trying the inactive slide and then magically posting when you are about to get lynched? I know you are better then that. What would you like to talk about? How do you feel about Oats, and HF/Rsoul? Are any of the claims you have been presented so far fake? I think oats is fine, I think rsoul is also fine. I'd be worried about HF if there weren't a lot more scummy people out there who need to die first. If we get through wave, vivax, milo, and of course yourself first and we still have scum left then I'll start giving HF another look.
I think Hark's claim is legit, ritoky is probably legit as well. Geript is as good as confirmed if damdred flips red. Milo is probably lying like I've been saying for like 48 hours now.
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On July 10 2015 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 10 2015 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol.
So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin.
I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy.
In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk. I want you dead. Why dont you wanna get vigged? Uh because I'm town and there are scummy as fuck people out there who should be vigi'd instead. Like who?? Oh gee just read my posts. Idk maybe wave? Maybe vivax?
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Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"?
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On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night.
This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_-
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This whole hf rsoul ruxxar thing is so annoying.
I've had ruxxar as town since D1. I've had HF as town too but his his constant pissing contest with rsoul is getting old. As for rsoul, idk maybe I could see a case on her but only if by some miracle people like wave and vivax flip green. The thing with her is that there are enough other people I think are scum ahead of her I'm just gonna back burner it until I have to deal with it.
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HF are you actually gonna defend milo?
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On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy?
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My original post was asking if you didn't find it scummy to explain yourself so you get to answer rather than hide behind a question. My own thoughts on vivax are fairly public knowledge
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On July 11 2015 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 03:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy? I think its pretty damn null. Well that's pretty damn weak. Vivax does the same thing wave does. Come in, make an excuse for his play, and bails. A townie doesn't go "hey guys, sorry I'm bad, gonna keep being bad until you lynch me" a townie tries their best to appear town. Vivax and wave aren't thinking like that, they're just trying to find excuses for their scummy play rather than actually try to appear more townie by helping scum hunt.
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On July 11 2015 03:36 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 03:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy? I think its pretty damn null. Well that's pretty damn weak. Vivax does the same thing wave does. Come in, make an excuse for his play, and bails. A townie doesn't go "hey guys, sorry I'm bad, gonna keep being bad until you lynch me" a townie tries their best to appear town. Vivax and wave aren't thinking like that, they're just trying to find excuses for their scummy play rather than actually try to appear more townie by helping scum hunt. This is completely false btw. No its not
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On July 11 2015 03:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 03:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy? I think its pretty damn null. Well that's pretty damn weak. Vivax does the same thing wave does. Come in, make an excuse for his play, and bails. A townie doesn't go "hey guys, sorry I'm bad, gonna keep being bad until you lynch me" a townie tries their best to appear town. Vivax and wave aren't thinking like that, they're just trying to find excuses for their scummy play rather than actually try to appear more townie by helping scum hunt. Sorry for not appeasing you? I dont think its alignment indicative. Its up to you to change my mind. Alright that's fair, I'll try and help you see what I see when we get to the point where we're lynching him or wave.
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On July 11 2015 03:48 Clarity_nl wrote: I still think HF is town btw, just playing with the thought that he's not. I think HF just needs to take a hour away from the thread and come back after the day post
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On July 11 2015 03:51 Holyflare wrote: This is me being calm MZ. Lol. Alright fair enough, I just don't really see this current debate going anywhere.
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It kinda seems like ya'll are baiting HF a bit here as well tbh
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On July 11 2015 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:51 Holyflare wrote: This is me being calm MZ. Lol. Alright fair enough, I just don't really see this current debate going anywhere. Until you actually put in work to find scumreads, it doesnt really matter where this debate is going. Homes I have more scumreads than you and I'm not currently shitting up the thread. HF is not dying today or tomorrow so rather than flinging shit at each other maybe you should sit the fuck down.
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Hey HtS you're like currently my favorite person
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I love how vivax shows up in the thread after more than one person calls him out
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On July 11 2015 05:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 03:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy? I think its pretty damn null. Well that's pretty damn weak. Vivax does the same thing wave does. Come in, make an excuse for his play, and bails. A townie doesn't go "hey guys, sorry I'm bad, gonna keep being bad until you lynch me" a townie tries their best to appear town. Vivax and wave aren't thinking like that, they're just trying to find excuses for their scummy play rather than actually try to appear more townie by helping scum hunt. you've played enough that you can't genuinely believe this is true in a blanket fashion No its not always true but I think barring new players and people who just don't give a fuck like coagulation and Bill Murray it's a safe statement. Especially since both Wave and Vivax are experienced enough to understand that even if they're not feeling the game it's still important to at least try and participate. Perhaps my meta reads really are out of date but I don't remember wave fucking off as town. However if they're scum they'd both be understandably discouraged and looking for excuses to stay out of the thread seeing as it appears we've caught at least two scum.
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On July 11 2015 05:17 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote: btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. Sure. It is impressive how you manage to point things like this out but are able to avoid giving an opinion on him like the plague. Homes you need to drop the HF shit now, you're no better than rsoultin at this point.
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On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are.
I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me.
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On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes.
If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that.
From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong.
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On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. you misunderstand. your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read. if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with).
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On July 11 2015 05:35 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. From a tactical standpoint shooting you is the optimal play because you were the counterwagon to townBM day1. No actually that's not how that works but good try!
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On July 11 2015 05:37 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:35 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. From a tactical standpoint shooting you is the optimal play because you were the counterwagon to townBM day1. No actually that's not how that works but good try! That is exactly how that works. There is noone whos flip gives us as much information as yours does. My flip actually gives pretty much zero information but again good try
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On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. you misunderstand. your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read. if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with). There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs. it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it. like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously). i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic. So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e.
My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that.
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On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote: sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. you misunderstand. your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read. if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with). There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs. it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it. like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously). i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic. So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e. My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that. This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim. It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter.
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On July 11 2015 05:51 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are.
I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. you misunderstand. your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read. if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with). There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs. it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it. like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously). i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic. So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e. My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that. This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim. It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter. It really is. You made your analysis when the strong information that indicated milo is scum was not there yet. After it was there everyone else called him scum. That sorta proves my point. I felt that milo's behavior was scummy to me. His behavior is actually pretty similar to what I've been calling out wave and vivax for. I also thought ritoky had a more believable claim.
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On July 11 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are.
I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me. i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia you should reconsider your read :p You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes. If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that. From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. you misunderstand. your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read. if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with). There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs. it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it. like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously). i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic. So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e. My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that. This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim. It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter. what do you think about scott? I think he's red
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On July 11 2015 05:58 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On July 11 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes.
If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that.
From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong. you misunderstand. your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read. if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with). There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs. it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it. like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously). i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic. So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e. My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that. This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim. It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter. what do you think about scott? I think he's red ok can you explain this read please. Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book.
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On July 11 2015 06:00 ruXxar wrote: @Vivax & MZ: what is your opinion of trfel at this point? I had him as scum really early on but idk now. He's been pretty absent but not as bad as others have been so he's not really a top priority for me.
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On July 11 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 06:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:58 KelsierSC wrote:On July 11 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On July 11 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with). There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs. it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it. like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously). i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic. So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e. My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that. This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim. It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter. what do you think about scott? I think he's red ok can you explain this read please. Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book. ok, so why do you want to lynch wave/vivax over him? Because wave and vivax are doing that bullshit lurky scum play where they show up, pop off a few posts and then go back into hiding as long as the thread isn't discussing them. It's frustrating to watch, hell I've done it as scum before, it's very tempting just to hide when you're feeling off your game and a partner is getting hammered. Scott at the very least has been around and sort of contributed.
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Surprise surprise
BH is putting a shitton of flavor into these posts and I haven't been reading them. As someone who has hosted once or twice I feel bad lol.
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Geript and ritoky confirmed.
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On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation. Sigh. Just repeating what marv says over and over again doesn't make it true. Think for yourself.
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On July 11 2015 07:48 geript wrote: Let me repeat myself once more. IF YOU FUCKS EVER LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW, THEN I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CLIMB OUT OF MY GRAVE AND CHOKE EACH OF YOU PERSONALLY TO DEATH. I'd strongly prefer you never lynch Breshke either. He's highly likely to be town.
Sidenote: I'm having some minor second thoughts about Marv. I'd lynch him before I would HF, but I wouldn't lynch either until lylo I think. I'll make a big post tomorrow.
Tldr Shoot MZ Then lynch into Vivax/milo Why why why is wave so goddamn confirmed town for you?
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On July 11 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 07:48 geript wrote: Let me repeat myself once more. IF YOU FUCKS EVER LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW, THEN I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CLIMB OUT OF MY GRAVE AND CHOKE EACH OF YOU PERSONALLY TO DEATH. I'd strongly prefer you never lynch Breshke either. He's highly likely to be town.
Sidenote: I'm having some minor second thoughts about Marv. I'd lynch him before I would HF, but I wouldn't lynch either until lylo I think. I'll make a big post tomorrow.
Tldr Shoot MZ Then lynch into Vivax/milo Why why why is wave so goddamn confirmed town for you? It's a meta read by Geript since Geript can tell the difference between Waveofshadow and Waveofscum. Yes indeed I gathered as much. However town wave looks much different than this in my experience. I'm trying to understand geripts meta read.
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I wasn't in the last game with wave so I wouldn't know. Damdred's filter, while a very interesting read, didn't really sway me one way or another on wave. However if there are multiple people stepping up to meta defend wave I guess we can work through vivax and Scott first.
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^aimed at both geript and HF
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On July 11 2015 08:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wasn't in the last game with wave so I wouldn't know. Damdred's filter, while a very interesting read, didn't really sway me one way or another on wave. However if there are multiple people stepping up to meta defend wave I guess we can work through vivax and Scott first. I town read scott kinda. And sort of vivax too lololol Ok work with me HF. Pretend for five seconds I'm town and let me hear your scum reads. I've been pretty consistent with the people I've been pushing but I'm always open to other ideas.
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If you kill me bc marv said so I'll be pretty sad for your inability to think for yourself.
That said, people who are waffling on milo need to remember that he tried to get lynched in place of damdred. Like what motive does town have to get lynched in front of someone if they know their own innocence? It's why I eventually voted BM d1. It screams an attempt by scum to save their rb.
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On July 12 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote: Oh, don't worry. We are lynching milo tomorrow. So how am I more confirmed scum than milo?
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On July 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 12 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote: Oh, don't worry. We are lynching milo tomorrow. So how am I more confirmed scum than milo? Meta bro meta op. Dude you've never played with me, just bc marv tells you something doesn't mean he's right. If you pay attention to the PYP lol filter you'll realize the difference between the two.
The only person I've been remotely aggressive with this game is marv. PYP lol as well as other scum games I just fling shit everywhere. But then again I hate meta reads bc of wifom.
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On July 12 2015 03:45 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 03:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote:On July 12 2015 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 12 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote: Oh, don't worry. We are lynching milo tomorrow. So how am I more confirmed scum than milo? Meta bro meta op. Dude you've never played with me, just bc marv tells you something doesn't mean he's right. If you pay attention to the PYP lol filter you'll realize the difference between the two. The only person I've been remotely aggressive with this game is marv. PYP lol as well as other scum games I just fling shit everywhere. But then again I hate meta reads bc of wifom. Rolf JAT and Marv said to check PYP League of Legends and here is some good gold from page 2 of your filter there: Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 02 2013 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: How is this so hard MZ? Tell me how VE is helping the town. Where is he transparent and contributing to proving his towniness? Can you actually quote some posts of his and tell how they help the town instead of giving a textbook town qualities and say "VE fits into the category of people who do these things"? Did you actually read what I wrote? Everyone acts "townie" slightly differently. In VE's case that is characterized by not very thought out posts, chain of conscious type posts, frustration and aggression when people call him scum, and genuine attempts at analysis. All of which are in this game. I'm not gonna go back and quote his entire post history. Forget for a second that he called you an annoying jerk-off and reread what he's written and tell me where the scum agenda is. Another quote from this game towards confirm town Geript: Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 04:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote: Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.
NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.
Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now. wave has literally all the trappings of an apathetic who's had a couple team members caught in the last day. Also Palmar had him on a scum list and I'm always inclined to give weight to dead Palmar's reads. I agree lynching HF is a terrible idea though. Very similar tone in each of these quotes. I'm not really sure I see what you're getting at tbh.
Just because geript is town doesn't mean his reads are automatically right. I'm not calling him scum just disagreeing with his wave read. In fact I don't really understand what point you were trying to prove by posting those two quotes.
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On July 12 2015 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:BTW here is the gif describing Us vs MZ atm: You do realize I haven't called my accusers scum right?
In fact I share scum reads with most of the people who think I'm scum (obviously I'm just bussing my entire team).
I've called marv bad because his play frustrates me but not scum
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I'm going out for a bit. If someone actually vigis me, firstly feel ashamed for sheeping marv and secondly kill milo and vivax in that order. Then kill scott. I assume everyone will be much more willing to listen to me after I flip.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fucking retards gg -_-
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Oh I knew WoS was scum but nobody listened. Typical
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On July 23 2015 09:18 Clarity_nl wrote: Try to show up earlier than twenty minutes before the lynch. I kinda sheeped marv regarding you MZ. Yeah that was my b. I also was at a disadvantage bc marv had in my opinion an air tight meta read on me which was kinda hard to argue against. It's been more than a year since I've played so my meta has probably changed but that argument wasn't gonna fly with marv and when both marv and geript (the only players other than wos who really knew me) had me pegged as scum it was all over.
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