TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden

On June 27 2015 13:59 rsoultin wrote:
i can play if the deadline is an hour later lol

On July 06 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:


smoke rings? o.0

On July 06 2015 07:47 ruXxar wrote:


I'm sure you know all about that

On July 06 2015 07:49 LightningStrike wrote:

What you mean?

On July 06 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote:

I not scum I swear by the thousand suns that I am 100% town bro.

On July 06 2015 07:54 rsoultin wrote:


o.0 pssst what book is this, kels?

On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:

Scum #2 I've caught.

On July 06 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I'm expecting to much but you obviously are leaning one way on Scott currently and you have said that you played multiple times with him.

Usually you would throw that meta and five me a preliminary call now you just lazily tell me you don't have enough. Even if it is super early you do it as town a lot but never as scum.

On July 06 2015 07:59 geript wrote:

Clarity

On July 06 2015 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:

Na her read on me is correct maybe your LS reading machine is overheating from last game thus not working correctly?
Also on the note about scott: As scum seems to be more obvious as the game progresses I only skimmed some of his filter from his last two town games and I still need more posts from him to determine his alignment by meta.

On July 06 2015 08:14 ruXxar wrote:


As long as you don't start posting asses we have a deal.

On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:



I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.

trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times

Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet

On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:



Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads.

On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:


I said we can't both be scum

Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful.

On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:



You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little.

I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree?

On July 06 2015 08:28 Clarity_nl wrote:



OK I want to move past this as it's not really worth spending a lot of time on.


If me and HF both roll scum, and HF enters the game going "Lol I thought I rolled cop but it's just the VT flavor" do you think I, as scum, would call my scum partner "totes town not lynching today"?


What do you think of rsoultin? Specifically the way she's replied to me.

On July 06 2015 08:35 Breshke wrote:
I also really like damdreds read on LS here. The fact that you didn't meta scott straight away makes it more likely you are your lazy scum self LS

It always feels good sheeping damdred. Choo Choo

##Vote Lightningstrike

On May 10 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote:


To expand a good bit,

RS posts are decently good and even though the idea of HTS being mafia running in multiple posts, most of the posts however are well thought out and even the post where RS was being a pita towards the thread up above it still conveyed good ideas in a good manner.

However there is something really off in my reads.

(4)

On July 06 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote:


It's a bit of a gut/tone read I have going on her. Her little spat with clarity she was a bit of a pita and her not hostility but uhhh exaggeration makes me feel it's town rd, plus the follow up makes me feel it

On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?



Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm

On July 06 2015 09:03 Damdred wrote:


I don't think that a postvrestriction game is a good indication of what my read on rs generally is.

For example if you look at the last game I town read rs in a similar way that I did in assassination and came up dead wrong ignores gut feelings on tone and just focused on content indicators that she normally has.

I think tone is a much more important to how to read rs now at least. For instance I think that rs responses to clarity of themselves wedge good and pointed and had a clear focus but the tone just felt,and sounded like what hi would expect from town rd.

On July 06 2015 09:06 Damdred wrote:
The sentence where she was super sarcastic about how she agreed with clarity. It just really felt,like town rs not giving a Fuck and going for,what she saw and getting her point across.

On July 06 2015 09:19 Clarity_nl wrote:



Don't know what to tell you other than that wasn't my intention. I was pointing out that either WoS sees something the others don't or WoS has other information.

On July 06 2015 09:25 scott31337 wrote:


What are you unsure of? I didn't care for his vote, although he does explain it decently here -



And I'm not pissy - I just called it a shit vote because, well, it is.

On July 06 2015 09:30 ritoky wrote:


Over-emphasized defense at this point in the game.

In the event geript ever flips mafia, WoS is likely town cuz blatant attempted pocket/spew.

On July 06 2015 09:36 scott31337 wrote:


No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)

On July 06 2015 09:36 Holyflare wrote:
he didn't say that, he said he didn't like obi's vote on me because marv hadn't done shit and marv doesn't do shit as mafia

On July 06 2015 09:36 geript wrote:

Fuck you ritoky. I know my shit. And I'm very rarely (if ever) wrong about hatd stances I take. I know HF is fucking stupid and crazy enough to push Wubby regardless of his actual read on him. I also know it'll eat up a shit load of useful discussion. You also make it out like I wouldn't ever do that as mafia with Wave. Which is flat out wrong.

I just have some god like early reads so don't lynch people I townread for crazy dumbass insane inventive reasons. Not now. Not ever.

On July 06 2015 09:48 geript wrote:
Idk Wubby. I don't really keep track of what I do.

On July 06 2015 09:52 geript wrote:

The fucking point is God damn learn to fucking read me. There's very little I do as town I wouldn't as mafia. Regardless of any other circumstances. So quit posting bullshit about how I would or wouldn't do shit as mafia because you're wrong about it. Just learn how to fucking read me and then listen to my goddamn stellar town reads when I'm town.

On July 06 2015 09:54 geript wrote:

Yah. Because HF is town and he'll push Wave regardless of what HF thinks wave is for funsies. He'll do it to spite him for voting for HF. He'll do it because it's sunday.

On July 06 2015 10:30 Harkon wrote:
hereish

On July 06 2015 10:40 Harkon wrote:

I don't have any reads I am willing to share. Thread has been boring so far.

On July 06 2015 10:47 Harkon wrote:

Unless you can magically make the thread more interesting I doubt it. If you have some kickass case you want my opinion on fire away.
My motivation to put in effort right now is quite minimal.

On July 06 2015 10:53 Harkon wrote:

I have no opinion on him. Why is he mafia?

On July 06 2015 10:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm back.

Kel I don't get it, you really like my points on ls which I feel is really strong and getting stronger by the second.

But instead you judge me based on the structure of a town read and don't even mention the ls read that you liked? That's kind of strange

On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.

On July 06 2015 11:04 Damdred wrote:


I'm not sure I follow 100%.
example if you don't like a town read that's ok, but you like another read is developed with support you want to discard because you don't like him anyway? So you don't like me.

that doesn't make sense and you are discarding part of my game play for no real reason it feels uneven and unnecessary coming from you

On July 06 2015 11:04 Harkon wrote:

I would agree that it is a weird read. But making stupid/weird reads isn't a thing only mafia does and you could argue that going against thread sentiment is a towny thing to do. Doesn't sway me.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.

On July 06 2015 11:11 Harkon wrote:

Damdred has been actively pushing the thread forward. I see no reason to scumread him so far. He rarely explains his tonereads adequately as town.

On July 06 2015 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:

I gotta say I like you immensely better than our first game together
I think you've learned the cancer ways of TL Mafia pretty well

On July 06 2015 11:13 Damdred wrote:


What does it even mean that my RS read didn't feel as good? Not as condensed as assassins where I had to be vs different here and the last game I played in?

So you are scum reading me (sorta) on style rather than content?

And you don't think my Ks read is good anymore when he is 100% still going against meta?

On July 06 2015 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:

You are?
And me not liking your play our first game had nothing to do with you calling me scum IIRC, it was that no-nonsense rigidity I think?

You seem to have plenty of room for fun these days.

Why am I scum? Sheep read?

On July 06 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:


well..it is like this. scott apparently has few games played and LS did explain the read of like "oh you get him later"
LS is...well like you never know wtf is happening. so i think a few pages its hard to say well fuck yeh he is lazy...it just doesnt feel good...fuck i cant explain that properly
so i feel like your LS scum is dishonest and your rsoul is town feels like a cheap rsoul is town comparitively

On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3

On July 06 2015 11:22 Damdred wrote:
Yeah see now you just sound fake.

for instance Scott has what 8 games played maybe? I haven't counted exactly how many but its a good sample size and all of then are recentish.

Now in previous games ls when asked even early on would break out ten tons of meta in the first few pages and come to a conclusion. Whatever game we just played ls did this and I was able to meta him as town in the first few pages and you gave me hell about it until I explained my meta read on him being town which was 100% right.

now in that game he metad shockey and went through all his games that were years old to try to get some form of read, he failed to come to a super solid conclussioj but the effort was there with little to go ok and he did the work.

Here like I mentioned earlier he had already hinted he was leaning scum on Scott. When confronted with this he 100% shifted all the work to the thread and said here's the games I'll wait to do this till later when that's the opposite of what he normally would do and soon as the thread turned its attention away from ls he dissapeared and fave nothing more.

And I'm not sure if you are scum or just bad for acting this way and throwing dirt on me.

On July 06 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote:


The question is why are you co paring this to assassination when we have a more recent game all three of us were in but you chose the one that was most different

On June 17 2015 09:27 Damdred wrote:


Actually meta is a huge part of my game in the early goings as well as tone etc.,

Rsoultin is because she's my waifu that's acting like a pita.
I've answered about ls I believe
Kel is his attitude and his wanting to dig into people.
Gb because of the wanting to give reads and get people involved.
Rit is pure meta and I'd rather never explain
You are meta+content at this point compared to last game.

On July 06 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote:


in theory its good bit he's not even waiting, he just said he was town though

On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:

strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim?

On July 06 2015 16:54 boxerfred wrote:

overly defensive shit plus attentionshift on rsoulting not liking that

On July 06 2015 20:21 boxerfred wrote:

that came to my mind when someone said he's needlessly sheeping people, on the last page. i remembered his entry post, reread it and decided to not like it.

##vote clarity_nl

overly defensive shit plus attentionshift on rsoulting not liking that

On July 06 2015 20:49 boxerfred wrote:
also "NIA" means what?

On July 06 2015 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?user=rsoultin&page=5
Shit load of xP, shes mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=rsoultin&page=9
way less xP, shes town.

Clearly this is definitive proof that rsoul is mafia.

Marv, you arent gonna look at the voting thread unless you vote.
Its completely pointless to vote there unless you need to do it to not get modkilled and to actually make your vote count.

I assume boxer doesnt exactly know what sheeping is.

On July 06 2015 21:40 ruXxar wrote:
You made an error in the calculations?

On July 06 2015 21:52 ruXxar wrote:



Mm, but besides that, I don't like people that spam smileys in every single post, it's awkward and forced.
It's a girl though, so maybe that explains it.

On July 06 2015 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote:

wait wtf?

she had 25 over the first 4 pages of this game.

Your analysis sucks man.

On July 06 2015 22:57 boxerfred wrote:
Okay i hardclaim cop

On July 06 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote:
...

See. He's clearly not getting it.

I don't expect that level of stupid from kels. Specifically. Kels.

On July 06 2015 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote Rsoul
Lol kel, shes talking about you.

My point is 100% accurate, you just suck at gathering data. xP .

On July 06 2015 23:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you intentionally referred to yourself in 3rd person.
Weirdo.

On July 06 2015 23:05 boxerfred wrote:
In Not themed, kelsier was town and that was clear for anyone since day One. Are his other games similar in that regard? The xP stuff has been and is pure bullshit imo

On July 06 2015 23:03 KelsierSC wrote:

It feels over the top to say "well he is "retarded" "for that

On July 06 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:

absolutely no idea.

not sure how it's relevant either

On July 06 2015 23:23 marvellosity wrote:

ok?

On July 06 2015 23:28 marvellosity wrote:

did i not make it clear in the post i wrote what i was getting at?
also


Are we all clear? lol

On July 06 2015 23:33 boxerfred wrote:
Marv is really Holding himself back, dropping lines but not really entering conversations. I dunno about pages 20 to 40 since i only skimmed.

Is that normal or at least okayish for him?

On July 06 2015 23:56 Holyflare wrote:
Scott's filter doesn't even work zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

On July 06 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote:


It's a bit of a gut/tone read I have going on her. Her little spat with clarity she was a bit of a pita and her not hostility but uhhh exaggeration makes me feel it's town rd, plus the follow up makes me feel it

On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:


lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game

daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP

On July 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
Oh carp... ls why did you roll scum?

On July 07 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today

Trfel
Ritoky
LIGHTNINGSTRIKE

these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference

On July 07 2015 01:27 WaveofShadow wrote:

I fucking busted out laughing in the doctors office and now people are staring at me

The XP analysis

Oh man Best thread NA/EU/singapore?

On July 07 2015 02:06 LightningStrike wrote:

Town:
Damdred even if he's wrong on my alignment he actually putting work into this game.
HTS: Miller Claim.
rsoultin: Tone reads town but I can be wrong on her.
Vivax: Really trying to get people to look at his thing on Geript and looks townie for it.
Boxerfred: Seems like Town again this game he's playing similar to how he played our last game together.
KSC: Playing very similar to how he played in our last game when he was town pushing the thread a lot.
Oatsmaster: Although i dislike how he not explaining why those posts make people scum he seems to play similar to the last newbie game he played in when got lynched in LYLO.
Harkon: Seems to have some good points here and there
Clarity_nl : Decent content and tried to get his thoughts down to the thread.
Scott: Had some decent questioning but my weakest townread here.
Null:
Geript: Seems angrier than his town game could he be scum this game?
Holyflare: Bleed Town damn it I not going to let you pocket me this game.
milo: Not really posting much
Breshke: Seems okay on filter wise but his reasoning for the sheep is pretty lackluster.
Meapak: No posts since the /confirm
XEliteBlueHunter69X: No posts since the /confirm
BM: Claiming Wandering Townie but no posts after that.
OWS: Small filter but not nothing really to go on.
Ritoky Only drive by posts so far.
rux: Seems weird this game with him saying don't let me mislynch and stuff just seems odd.

On July 07 2015 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:

1. He seems to be joking and around a lot early and doing some work which I know he can do as scum
2. His early posting with his claims and stuff seems very similar to how posted day 1 when he got lynched.
3. Forgot about Wave and marv. Slight town on Marv he seems happy this game. Wave prob town I sheeping Geripts read on him since they can soul read each other.

On July 07 2015 02:26 LightningStrike wrote:

Null on Trfel I can see some of it from him being town because Mafia Down Under 2 when he cased the host in LYLO under the ground that HTS was a communist and in Carol he haven't posted till End of Day 1 but on the other hand some his posts seems weird on wording. Palmar he had a funny opening but he seems somewhat serious this game so maybe town just wish he posted more.
On Boxer: Some of his complaining about how many pages in the game we already were which he did conplain about in our last game together. He also this game actually somewhat cased Clar which is townie in itself.

On July 07 2015 01:10 Holyflare wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=Trfel

if you're talking about carol that's the most disingenuous read ever

On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:
btw hts read the post again

ruxxar said that my posts were flustering him while soft-pushing suspicion on me

then there's this post:



yes, i'm keying in on the wording, but it doesn't make sense. why should he care if the reasons for the lynch are bad or not? that's odd. why does something i'm writing that has nothing to do with him fluster him?

granted it's not the strongest read ever, but it looks worse than oats randomly thinking me spamming xPs at him is alignment indicative or kelsier going on some crazy stats dig -_-

On July 07 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote:


I assume it would be a pretty close outcome, so nothing boring about that.

On July 07 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:


-squints at- do you realize the likelihood that there's any correlation to the number of times i xP in a thread and my alignment? and if you're such a stats man, me taunting oats with it already throws off your data anyway

but i guess i can understand not being interested in the back-and-forth between marv and oats

you're wrong, btw. should probably ask me what read i have on someone before making assumptions based on how i addressed someone in a single post; i'm not sure about damdy and it's irritating...i usually have a read on him by now

On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:


lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game

daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP

On July 06 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote:


rofl

aww, sweetie, you have no clue...i can read trfel even better than i can read damdy giant shiny-ass cases don't dazzle me

On July 07 2015 03:24 marvellosity wrote:

wishful thinking

On July 07 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:
That's not the reason for my scumread.

And I'm not going to tell you my scumread now, because you are not getting lynched today, and I want to see if you keep doing the thing I'm scumreading you for.

On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky

On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.

On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.

On July 07 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:


I typed a giant message in response to this, then erased it because I would have been modkilled.

Short answer: mechanics, thinking majority lynch = instant majority lynch (cuz no game i have played that i can remember that is majority isn't also instant), and life interference.

On June 18 2015 04:03 ritoky wrote:


bleh as shit of a play as this is it is likely true. you did this shit before with like 1 or 2 votes on you day 1...

On June 18 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:


claiming blue under no lynch pressure day 1 is almost as anti-town as being mafia.....just sayin.

On July 07 2015 05:18 Holyflare wrote:


yeh well he's claimed medic d1 before too so i dunno

On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.

He also shares my scumread on trfel which I will explain further down.

Ruxxar - Way different posting style from his previous mafia game and isn't leaving giant gaping holes in his logic in ridiculously long-winded bs posts, just seems to be inquiring about information normally and genuinely seems interested in piecing together the puzzle. Hard to fake as a newer player.

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

Confident Scum Reads

Trfel - Honestly his posts just don't make any sense if he isn't in contact with somebody. He appears to be putting on a show for laughs and probably thinks he can get away with it in such a large game. If he isn't a mason or part of your knitting circle i'd advise to lynch this guy asap before he posts anything more in his mafia qt about how he is "trolling so hard ex dee"

Even when engaged in a very mild tone he still refuses to co-operate which should be a huge red flag.

*Possible blue role here that is using his claim to play the game for him, I don't know enough about him to make the distinction.

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff

On July 07 2015 07:28 ruXxar wrote:


Why?

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

On July 07 2015 20:31 boxerfred wrote:

I disagree on "noone should give a fuck". Every claim at every point in the game deserves attention. However I agree, pointing out how interesting it is does indicate that clarity wants to put emphasis on the claim - which he did not do. Although he said that due to him, people were talking "5 pages" about the claim which was simply a lie. I pointed that out alread (roughly page 40something I think) and I will point to that again. That's one of the reasons why clarity still is among my top scum reads!

So I'm fine with lynching HF and clarity. I can see that HF is not going to be lynched today although I'm not liking marv yet. He's engaging and discussing, but he's not really making points. However it's day1, he just caught up, so I keep it at a null read and won't lean towards any alignment.

I'll re-go for clarity and I'm fine with anyone who joins me on that.

##unvote ##vote clarity_nl

On July 07 2015 20:46 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright, that clarity vote/unvote is a good catch. I'll check that area of the thread, and his filter as well and see if anything else pops up...

On July 07 2015 21:03 Half the Sky wrote:


Alright, milo, not sure if you are still here, but so it goes...

Re - KSC do you have any thoughts now? He's posted a tonne since you commented on him initially. KSC sometimes has those random one-liners and those aren't/can't be the only things you read from him. Looking at the timestamps it appears those were selectively placed, so does his gameplay since that (or even around those quotes) change your opinion at all?

A few of us have opposing opinions on HF and a couple voiced some dissenting opinions on Damdred - for example Vivax felt that his posts were loaded or baitworthy, like he was trying to reach for an excuse to scumread LS. Do you agree with this assessment (same question also at KSC when he returns btw), I had previously quoted it.

HF, I felt there is some selective reasoning. You probably want to look at the exchanges about 8-9 hours ago to get a sense of what was happening. (Admittedly he's probably not getting lynched today, but it's something that I think everyone needs to think about going on to later days.)

On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.

On July 08 2015 00:20 Half the Sky wrote:


Read the top of page 98. I backed off once he stated it was correct. That was some confusion on my end. Although Palmar is saying otherwise, still I had him on my list of people to review.

Also HF, re the point on milo being meh, I'm still waiting for the latest round of his answers to my questions whcih he'd say he'd provide.

On July 08 2015 00:32 marvellosity wrote:

am sad.

On July 08 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:


I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.

On July 08 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote:


You
Trfel
Wave

I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more.

On July 08 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote:


I honestly thought you were smarter than this Kel, openings aren't alignment indicative. But going "HEY GUYS THIS GUY IS TOWN I"LL NEVER LYNCH HIM FOR HIS OPENING" is not the same thing.

Like idk i don't think that you are dumb, but that point is like idiotic.

When the game develops into a super game size like it is now that's an acceptable excuse its not when its a 3-5 page game and its like 1-2 posts above yours and you just go about your day.

I think wave is scum because of lack of cares but meh.

I've answered about ls

On July 08 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote:


You
Trfel
Wave

I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more.

On July 08 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm done really really tired of being scum read for whatever I do whenever I'm in any games, hunt town and find scum through pie in scum for doing that. Just looking for scummy behavior and caseing it and I'm scum for that.

la te da, fuck that shit I'm getting me Chinese playing final fantasy and I'll be back near deadline fuck it

On July 08 2015 03:56 Holyflare wrote:




ummmmmmmmmmmmm?

On July 08 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote:


get to work doing what, precisely?

On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

On July 08 2015 04:14 milo109 wrote:
Sigh. I'm two-shot cop. Fun fun fun.

On July 08 2015 06:30 Harkon wrote:

You typed /confirm and then forgot?

On July 08 2015 06:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I want to switch votes and willing to consolidate with anyone if we can get a mass switch to someone.

On July 08 2015 06:40 Half the Sky wrote:
geript, you said you didn't like Damdred. I went through his filter. I know a couple of people cited him for his pushes.

What is making you think he's not town? Is it his method of scumhunting? Is it his pushes on his targets (LS/Trfel/Wave, etc) or was it him dropping the LS read?

You didn't like his wave read, and Damdred is saying that wos doesn't seem to care about the game.

Are you lot thinking he's zeroing in on a pattern of "easy" lynches? I know we know the deal on LS (before he dropped it) and Trfel wasn't playing optimally regardless of what people think on him, and wos has been highly critical of his own town game. It's possible as a theory.

But I don't understand the part in your filter about "that's not whom Damdred should be choosing" as a lynch though when he goes on wave. KSC I know you found this read weird too. I'm reading the filter and I don't know if I'm missing something.

On July 08 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
We have 14.

98% sure BM flips wanderer though

On July 08 2015 06:59 Clarity_nl wrote:


If you look at OP BH actually has a rule akin to this.

On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Geript do you still feel this way?

On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:


I read your interaction just fine.
Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.

1st interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia"
RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure"
HF: "I don't need your opinion RS"
RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!".
HF: "I don't need you go away".
Mod: Interrupts.

2nd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner"
RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel"
HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning)
RS: "You were trying to shit on me!"
HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information"
RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else"
(topic changed)

3rd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why".
RS: "HF, you can't read!"
RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!"
HF: "How is that not reading?"
RS: "Trfel already explained it!"
HF: "Explained it how?"
RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?"
HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?"
RS: "You are stupid HF!"
(Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)

It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view.
Once again you're derailing.

I'm not going away anytime soon.