On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes.
If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that.
From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong.
you misunderstand.
your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read.
if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on
Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with).
There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs.
it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it.
like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously).
i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic.
So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e.
My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that.
This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim.
It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter.
what do you think about scott?
I think he's red
ok can you explain this read please.
Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book.
I'm really curious what you meant with this quote:
On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up.
It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1.
So um. Damdred will flip town. Look at me. So much information. Then Ritoky/Geript will die at night so that they have the easiest mislynch ever on me. Perhaps they'll do Harkon/Geript in the hopes that when I flip cop they can get a mislynch on me. I'm actually a seer that is given wisdom by the Gods.
On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote: [quote] you misunderstand.
your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read.
if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on
Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with).
There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs.
it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it.
like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously).
i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic.
So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e.
My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that.
This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim.
It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter.
what do you think about scott?
I think he's red
ok can you explain this read please.
Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book.
ok, so why do you want to lynch wave/vivax over him?
On July 08 2015 19:16 Vivax wrote: I'm pretty irritated by the way HF abandoned the suspicion of Trfel just when mine started to build up.
It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away. This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1.
HF said Trfel afk = bad. I said (or at least thought) "well it's early and he posted a few reads, let's see what he does later", then EoD 1 I wasn't happy with him and HF somehow lost interest, so opposite reactions.
On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with).
There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs.
it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it.
like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously).
i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic.
So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e.
My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that.
This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim.
It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter.
what do you think about scott?
I think he's red
ok can you explain this read please.
Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book.
ok, so why do you want to lynch wave/vivax over him?
Because wave and vivax are doing that bullshit lurky scum play where they show up, pop off a few posts and then go back into hiding as long as the thread isn't discussing them. It's frustrating to watch, hell I've done it as scum before, it's very tempting just to hide when you're feeling off your game and a partner is getting hammered. Scott at the very least has been around and sort of contributed.
EPT
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