EPTTL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 238
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ruXxar
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marvellosity
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ruXxar
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marvellosity
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still think it's odd you're asking him to name a whole scumteam without a single scumflip though  | ||
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ruXxar
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He usually reads people by meta, so his approach to gathering reads is a bit different from mine. | ||
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ruXxar
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On July 10 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote: more importantly, MZ. the big scummer. Can you tell me why you think MZ is scum? | ||
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XEliteBlueHunter69X
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the whole "oh no don't lynch BM to not lynch me I can't have that" is a scummy thing to do. Its pretty much exactly what I and a lot of other people would do as scum in that situation, try to seem reasonable and like you're actually weighing options on the lynch but intrinsically you are really just like "yea hopefully this makes me look townie and it gets them off me due to me not trying to preserve myself" hard to explain but a town member would just be like fuck yea lynch that dirty lurker whereas the mafia KNOWS he is town so its an awkward spot for him to manage. Then of course the palmar night kill so there has to be an old player somewhere, that's my pick. His filter is actually decent besides that, but he's not an awful garbage player so.. most of this read is definitely sheeping though. For kelsier I mean this is mostly an activity thing, guy just dropped off the face of the earth after day 1. Game is going to shit for mafia so far so he might have become uninterested. I already acknowledged in my opening post too that I found his playstyle different from his town game and peculiar. This sudden inactivity is only reinforcing my read. Obi you would just have to look trhough the database and compare games. This just looks like his scumgame to me not much more to say. That's also why its my least confident though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 11 2015 00:54 ruXxar wrote: lol, i was about to read through your filter and just realized it's 24 pages long -_-. Can you tell me why you think MZ is scum? didn't buy his umming and ahhing on BM when he came back his treatment of milo/ritoky made zero sense. i explained this very well tbh. angry scummy ad hom at me his posts are literally written in red | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
I feel like he acted way too calm for someone that is about to be mis-lynched. There was no sense of panic in his writing. If you know you are town, then your priority should be to get the lynch over on anyone you think is less than 100% town and has a realistic chance of being a lynch target with majority vote. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On July 11 2015 00:57 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Well for meapak a few things the whole "oh no don't lynch BM to not lynch me I can't have that" is a scummy thing to do. Its pretty much exactly what I and a lot of other people would do as scum in that situation, try to seem reasonable and like you're actually weighing options on the lynch but intrinsically you are really just like "yea hopefully this makes me look townie and it gets them off me due to me not trying to preserve myself" hard to explain but a town member would just be like fuck yea lynch that dirty lurker whereas the mafia KNOWS he is town so its an awkward spot for him to manage. Then of course the palmar night kill so there has to be an old player somewhere, that's my pick. His filter is actually decent besides that, but he's not an awful garbage player so.. most of this read is definitely sheeping though. For kelsier I mean this is mostly an activity thing, guy just dropped off the face of the earth after day 1. Game is going to shit for mafia so far so he might have become uninterested. I already acknowledged in my opening post too that I found his playstyle different from his town game and peculiar. This sudden inactivity is only reinforcing my read. Obi you would just have to look trhough the database and compare games. This just looks like his scumgame to me not much more to say. That's also why its my least confident though. Fair enough. KSC makes some sense. If I had to look at KSC in a different light on d1 did he actually push Damdred on what he felt was a bad push on wave (someone brought up the LS push as being bad was it him or ras...) It's worth a double check, independent of activity. Note to self... | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 11 2015 01:04 ruXxar wrote: I agree that I didn't like his entry into the thread. I feel like he acted way too calm for someone that is about to be mis-lynched. There was no sense of panic in his writing. If you know you are town, then your priority should be to get the lynch over on anyone you think is less than 100% town and has a realistic chance of being a lynch target with majority vote. This argument is the same for scum | ||
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marvellosity
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that's what he's saying | ||
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LightningStrike
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ruXxar
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I find the way that milo acted to be really weird throughout the game and especially after geript outed his tracking claim on damdred and his reaction to that. | ||
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Holyflare
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On July 11 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote: Mainly HF being mad at rsoultin over points about Tfrel early on about the way Tfrel acts and how rsoultin came to a different conclusion about Tfrel than him and they kept arguing about for a good portion of Day 1 and the Night Phase. She right on one thing about HF: He been mainly sniping at Tfrel. I'm sorry what? How have I just been sniping at trfel? I brought up legitimate points against him multiple times. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Bad phrasing. I meant scum and town both want to not get themselves mislynched. His argument only makes sense if BM flipped scum. Sureas scum you'd just go "yeah fuck this lurker, better him than me", but you would do the same as town, especially since BM is confirmed not a blue role. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 11 2015 00:58 marvellosity wrote: didn't buy his umming and ahhing on BM when he came back his treatment of milo/ritoky made zero sense. i explained this very well tbh. angry scummy ad hom at me his posts are literally written in red The milo/ritoky disparity is what convinced me. Then led onto milo looking like he has far too much information from scum reading MZ and everything around it. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 11 2015 01:12 ruXxar wrote: As for his treament of milo / ritoky, I actually agree with MZ on his apathy statement about milo. I find the way that milo acted to be really weird throughout the game and especially after geript outed his tracking claim on damdred and his reaction to that. the question isn't if milo is apathetic, the question is how he can handwave ritoky's play away as "absent and town" and yet call milo's "scummy and apathetic". The distinction is nonsense. | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 09 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote: milo mafia, ritoky town got it makes perfect sense to me this. one is a mafia case and one is a towncase, essentially. it's so bad. | ||
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