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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 10 2015 15:44 GMT
#4741
Don't see why you'd think so.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 15:44 GMT
#4742
but you did have him on a do-not-lynch list at least recently. so at least not particularly scummy weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 10 2015 15:46 GMT
#4743
I'm not trying to determine LS's alignment.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 15:46 GMT
#4744
it does seem that way.

still think it's odd you're asking him to name a whole scumteam without a single scumflip though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 10 2015 15:50 GMT
#4745
Nah, I just want to get his perspective on things.
He usually reads people by meta, so his approach to gathering reads is a bit different from mine.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 10 2015 15:54 GMT
#4746
lol, i was about to read through your filter and just realized it's 24 pages long -_-.

On July 10 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
more importantly, MZ. the big scummer.

Can you tell me why you think MZ is scum?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 15:57 GMT
#4747
Well for meapak a few things

the whole "oh no don't lynch BM to not lynch me I can't have that" is a scummy thing to do. Its pretty much exactly what I and a lot of other people would do as scum in that situation, try to seem reasonable and like you're actually weighing options on the lynch but intrinsically you are really just like "yea hopefully this makes me look townie and it gets them off me due to me not trying to preserve myself"

hard to explain but a town member would just be like fuck yea lynch that dirty lurker whereas the mafia KNOWS he is town so its an awkward spot for him to manage.

Then of course the palmar night kill so there has to be an old player somewhere, that's my pick.

His filter is actually decent besides that, but he's not an awful garbage player so..

most of this read is definitely sheeping though.

For kelsier I mean this is mostly an activity thing, guy just dropped off the face of the earth after day 1. Game is going to shit for mafia so far so he might have become uninterested. I already acknowledged in my opening post too that I found his playstyle different from his town game and peculiar. This sudden inactivity is only reinforcing my read.

Obi you would just have to look trhough the database and compare games. This just looks like his scumgame to me not much more to say. That's also why its my least confident though.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 15:58 GMT
#4748
On July 11 2015 00:54 ruXxar wrote:
lol, i was about to read through your filter and just realized it's 24 pages long -_-.

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
more importantly, MZ. the big scummer.

Can you tell me why you think MZ is scum?

didn't buy his umming and ahhing on BM when he came back

his treatment of milo/ritoky made zero sense. i explained this very well tbh.

angry scummy ad hom at me

his posts are literally written in red
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 10 2015 16:04 GMT
#4749
I agree that I didn't like his entry into the thread.
I feel like he acted way too calm for someone that is about to be mis-lynched.
There was no sense of panic in his writing.
If you know you are town, then your priority should be to get the lynch over on anyone you think is less than 100% town and has a realistic chance of being a lynch target with majority vote.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 10 2015 16:07 GMT
#4750
On July 11 2015 00:57 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Well for meapak a few things

the whole "oh no don't lynch BM to not lynch me I can't have that" is a scummy thing to do. Its pretty much exactly what I and a lot of other people would do as scum in that situation, try to seem reasonable and like you're actually weighing options on the lynch but intrinsically you are really just like "yea hopefully this makes me look townie and it gets them off me due to me not trying to preserve myself"

hard to explain but a town member would just be like fuck yea lynch that dirty lurker whereas the mafia KNOWS he is town so its an awkward spot for him to manage.

Then of course the palmar night kill so there has to be an old player somewhere, that's my pick.

His filter is actually decent besides that, but he's not an awful garbage player so..

most of this read is definitely sheeping though.

For kelsier I mean this is mostly an activity thing, guy just dropped off the face of the earth after day 1. Game is going to shit for mafia so far so he might have become uninterested. I already acknowledged in my opening post too that I found his playstyle different from his town game and peculiar. This sudden inactivity is only reinforcing my read.

Obi you would just have to look trhough the database and compare games. This just looks like his scumgame to me not much more to say. That's also why its my least confident though.


Fair enough. KSC makes some sense. If I had to look at KSC in a different light on d1 did he actually push Damdred on what he felt was a bad push on wave (someone brought up the LS push as being bad was it him or ras...)

It's worth a double check, independent of activity.

Note to self...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 10 2015 16:07 GMT
#4751
On July 11 2015 01:04 ruXxar wrote:
I agree that I didn't like his entry into the thread.
I feel like he acted way too calm for someone that is about to be mis-lynched.
There was no sense of panic in his writing.
If you know you are town, then your priority should be to get the lynch over on anyone you think is less than 100% town and has a realistic chance of being a lynch target with majority vote.


This argument is the same for scum
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 16:11 GMT
#4752
On July 11 2015 01:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 01:04 ruXxar wrote:
I agree that I didn't like his entry into the thread.
I feel like he acted way too calm for someone that is about to be mis-lynched.
There was no sense of panic in his writing.
If you know you are town, then your priority should be to get the lynch over on anyone you think is less than 100% town and has a realistic chance of being a lynch target with majority vote.


This argument is the same for scum

that's what he's saying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 10 2015 16:11 GMT
#4753
Mainly HF being mad at rsoultin over points about Tfrel early on about the way Tfrel acts and how rsoultin came to a different conclusion about Tfrel than him and they kept arguing about for a good portion of Day 1 and the Night Phase. She right on one thing about HF: He been mainly sniping at Tfrel.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 10 2015 16:12 GMT
#4754
As for his treament of milo / ritoky, I actually agree with MZ on his apathy statement about milo.

I find the way that milo acted to be really weird throughout the game and especially after geript outed his tracking claim on damdred and his reaction to that.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 10 2015 16:13 GMT
#4755
On July 11 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Mainly HF being mad at rsoultin over points about Tfrel early on about the way Tfrel acts and how rsoultin came to a different conclusion about Tfrel than him and they kept arguing about for a good portion of Day 1 and the Night Phase. She right on one thing about HF: He been mainly sniping at Tfrel.


I'm sorry what? How have I just been sniping at trfel? I brought up legitimate points against him multiple times.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 10 2015 16:13 GMT
#4756
On July 11 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 01:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 01:04 ruXxar wrote:
I agree that I didn't like his entry into the thread.
I feel like he acted way too calm for someone that is about to be mis-lynched.
There was no sense of panic in his writing.
If you know you are town, then your priority should be to get the lynch over on anyone you think is less than 100% town and has a realistic chance of being a lynch target with majority vote.


This argument is the same for scum

that's what he's saying


Bad phrasing. I meant scum and town both want to not get themselves mislynched. His argument only makes sense if BM flipped scum.

Sureas scum you'd just go "yeah fuck this lurker, better him than me", but you would do the same as town, especially since BM is confirmed not a blue role.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 10 2015 16:14 GMT
#4757
On July 11 2015 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 00:54 ruXxar wrote:
lol, i was about to read through your filter and just realized it's 24 pages long -_-.

On July 10 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
more importantly, MZ. the big scummer.

Can you tell me why you think MZ is scum?

didn't buy his umming and ahhing on BM when he came back

his treatment of milo/ritoky made zero sense. i explained this very well tbh.

angry scummy ad hom at me

his posts are literally written in red


The milo/ritoky disparity is what convinced me. Then led onto milo looking like he has far too much information from scum reading MZ and everything around it.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 16:14 GMT
#4758
On July 11 2015 01:12 ruXxar wrote:
As for his treament of milo / ritoky, I actually agree with MZ on his apathy statement about milo.

I find the way that milo acted to be really weird throughout the game and especially after geript outed his tracking claim on damdred and his reaction to that.

the question isn't if milo is apathetic, the question is how he can handwave ritoky's play away as "absent and town" and yet call milo's "scummy and apathetic". The distinction is nonsense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 16:16 GMT
#4759
On July 09 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
That just screams apathy to me, his stated reason for his claim is so that he doesn't get lynched. It may have shifted attention to him but come on, what town is actually gonna lynch a claimed cop D1. He knows he's bought himself at least a day with that play and two shot cop is not hard to fake. D2: "Oh guys so I checked one of the dead people, looks like they were <insert alignment> hurr durr." D3: "Oh guys I checked <insert name> and they're scum." Seriously, cop is so easy to fake as scum lol. If he survives tonight and doesn't produce a check I'm all for lynching him tomorrow.

Show nested quote +
Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then.


milo mafia, ritoky town

got it

makes perfect sense to me

this. one is a mafia case and one is a towncase, essentially. it's so bad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 10 2015 16:18 GMT
#4760
like almost the entire argument he makes against milo he can make against ritoky, but he just doesn't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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