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Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter 
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On July 08 2015 09:41 KelsierSC wrote:
have you played with vivarino before?
umm maybe a long time ago? My last game was like a year ago so my meta reads are gonna be rusty at best.
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On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
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On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
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On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
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On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
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On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
you know what, imma let you finish
i would say dont rush your reads out, just chill
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I finally got to Milo's claim and for the record I think it's complete bullshit
cc: the people who were asking me if I wanted to lynch a claimed cop earlier.
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On July 08 2015 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I finally got to Milo's claim and for the record I think it's complete bullshit
cc: the people who were asking me if I wanted to lynch a claimed cop earlier.
Especially since my first red read posted this:
On July 08 2015 04:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm inclined to believe milo over ritoky, there is the tiny chance they're both cops but...... This claim makes no sense from scum
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On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon.
just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^
why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts
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On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts
rsoul..do you stick by your LS read?
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On July 08 2015 09:59 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts rsoul..do you stick by your LS read?
nh? you mean the trash-tier townlean based on word choice? lol >< i think it's objectively just as strong now as it was then, for what it's worth
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On July 08 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 09:59 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts rsoul..do you stick by your LS read? nh? you mean the trash-tier townlean based on word choice? lol >< i think it's objectively just as strong now as it was then, for what it's worth
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i do
i aint mad
but what you think of him now?
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On July 08 2015 07:18 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 07:04 Breshke wrote:
Scott did you answer if you take notes in games? I'm going back to sleep be round later probably I didn't see that post? Yes I have but not as concise since this was my first 25 man, the others were easier to keep track of and basically were lists so I didn't forget people. NSM VIII + Show Spoiler +
Plotspot M Holyflare
Scott31337 M
Bourneq
Damdred VT Slight Townlean
ObiWanShinobi Townlean
LightningStrike VT
TheBloodyDwarf Dead
Trfel Dead Townlean
Onegu VT VT Recinded Blue ?
Bill Murray Dead
The Shining
cakepie Dead
LeiNadk M Bussed me case
NSM IX + Show Spoiler +
scott31337 Me/M
Tictock
Rels
plotspot
boxerfred M
disformation
Barakos
Sulfurus
27ninjabunnies M
Bill Murray
Breshke
sicklucker
batsnacks
Guardians + Show Spoiler +
1. NydusHerMain slight town
2. Onegu slight town
3. VisceraEyes above slight town
4. sicklucker null
5. GGTemplar null
6. Chocolate slight scummy
7. Kickstart null to slight town
8. ritoky townie
9. Fidei86 slight scummy/below templar
10. milo109 null
11. Tictock slight town
12. scott31337 Me
13. Damdred slight town
NSM IX + Show Spoiler +
1) -Celestial- unsure what to think
2) Tictock Mentioned noob twice ?
3) y0su slight
4) disformation Made post about posting lots of smilies, forgot about it - then started remembering readding them
5) scott31337 Me
6) ritoky Null/little more
7) The Shining Townlean
8) Half the Sky Null
9) Superbia Townlean
10) FecalFeast Townlean
11) prplhz Meh
12) sicklucker Crap post
13) Stutters695 Crap post
LXXI (this one) + Show Spoiler +
1) Marvellosity townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337 town
3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray Lynched Day 1 Wanderer
8) ritoky reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OWS
9) geript slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh One catch up in the thread post - inactive/scummy
12) Trfel Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading - claimed two shot cop
18) Breshke A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town - hard defends Rsoul
24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town
Where are the ones from your scum games?
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On July 08 2015 10:08 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 09:59 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon. just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^ why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts rsoul..do you stick by your LS read? nh? you mean the trash-tier townlean based on word choice? lol >< i think it's objectively just as strong now as it was then, for what it's worth ] i do i aint mad but what you think of him now?
i'm bad at reading him and i think that read works? but yeah, prototype out for a test drive...not married to it, if anyone has a good argument that isn't just nai for him
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Ok so I've finally finished reading the fucking thread. Here are my scum reads in order from most likely to least likely:
WaveofShadow
Clarity_nl
Scott
Milo
Vivax
trfel
I'd like to see us lynching into that list tomorrow. I'd appreciate not getting shot by any cowboys trying to be fucking clever tonight. I'll write up a more detailed explanation of Wave later. I'm gonna go eat dinner/watch TV/play league or something
peace
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Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.
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On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.
pretty sure i saw it, too
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at the very least, i don't think he should be the auto lynch tomorrow by any means, or scumread solely for his post leading up to the lynch
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On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.
dude i tried his witht milo and people muj called me stupid
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EPT
