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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 07 2015 23:32 GMT
#3081
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 07 2015 23:33 GMT
#3082
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant
Zerg for Life
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 23:37 GMT
#3083
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?

He's not a bad shot at all. If you don't step up, I'd still rather you be shot on policy alone.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 07 2015 23:39 GMT
#3084
On July 08 2015 08:37 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?

He's not a bad shot at all. If you don't step up, I'd still rather you be shot on policy alone.

k. I'm still trying to decide if vivax is actually scum or if I just don't like the way he's playing.

As of page 95 I am also warming up to your oats stuff.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2015 23:39 GMT
#3085
Oh we lynched BM, cool.
I like MZ better anyway
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 07 2015 23:44 GMT
#3086
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant


weooooowwwowoow
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 07 2015 23:45 GMT
#3087
apparently people didnt see what I saw and i'm just stupid

Riperinp
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 07 2015 23:50 GMT
#3088
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.

HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.

The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.

Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.

Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?

go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims

i've answered all your leading questions already

i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me

i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?

lol ><


I read your interaction just fine.
Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.

1st interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia"
RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure"
HF: "I don't need your opinion RS"
RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!".
HF: "I don't need you go away".
Mod: Interrupts.

2nd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner"
RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel"
HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning)
RS: "You were trying to shit on me!"
HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information"
RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else"
(topic changed)

3rd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why".
RS: "HF, you can't read!"
RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!"
HF: "How is that not reading?"
RS: "Trfel already explained it!"
HF: "Explained it how?"
RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?"
HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?"
RS: "You are stupid HF!"
(Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)

It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view.
Once again you're derailing.

I'm not going away anytime soon.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 07 2015 23:53 GMT
#3089
On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.

HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.

The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.

Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.

Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?

go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims

i've answered all your leading questions already

i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me

i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?

lol ><


I read your interaction just fine.
Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.

1st interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia"
RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure"
HF: "I don't need your opinion RS"
RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!".
HF: "I don't need you go away".
Mod: Interrupts.

2nd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner"
RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel"
HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning)
RS: "You were trying to shit on me!"
HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information"
RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else"
(topic changed)

3rd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why".
RS: "HF, you can't read!"
RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!"
HF: "How is that not reading?"
RS: "Trfel already explained it!"
HF: "Explained it how?"
RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?"
HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?"
RS: "You are stupid HF!"
(Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)

It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view.
Once again you're derailing.

I'm not going away anytime soon.


nice dude
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:08 GMT
#3090
mae did you died
Zerg for Life
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 08 2015 00:11 GMT
#3091
On July 08 2015 09:08 KelsierSC wrote:
mae did you died

Are you referring to me?

I'm here, currently on page 112 which means if my memory serves I should be getting close to where I first posted.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:13 GMT
#3092
On July 08 2015 09:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:08 KelsierSC wrote:
mae did you died

Are you referring to me?

I'm here, currently on page 112 which means if my memory serves I should be getting close to where I first posted.


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yeh but you need to answer me faygot
Zerg for Life
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 08 2015 00:16 GMT
#3093
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:18 GMT
#3094
On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).


alrightt why?
Zerg for Life
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 08 2015 00:22 GMT
#3095
On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).


alrightt why?

Why what?
Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that?
Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment
Why do I now think he's scum?

If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:23 GMT
#3096
On July 08 2015 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).


alrightt why?

Why what?
Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that?
Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment
Why do I now think he's scum?

If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.


the 4th one
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:35 GMT
#3097
wait wjoch one is that
Zerg for Life
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 08 2015 00:36 GMT
#3098
On July 08 2015 09:23 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).


alrightt why?

Why what?
Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that?
Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment
Why do I now think he's scum?

If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.


the 4th one

I think geript is town and trfel is scum. Vivax chainsaws trfl by attacking geript but then when the heat is off of trfl vivax decides now it's ok for trfl to die in one single cop out post.

On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote:
All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.

Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS.


chainsaw

On July 08 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
I decided that Trfel can die too, so if HF wants a lynch on him he can have my vote.

I saw no elaboration on his scott scumread and the talk about LS looks like he just needed that read to have something to talk about. His HF suspicion fell into the water as well.

Instead what we get are a bunch of apologetic posts and empty promises.


about face

Honestl vivax just can't keep his story straight, I could right a longer analysis but I have a bigger fish to fry that I'll spend y time on but I'll leave you with this:

On July 08 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote:
This game is insane, at the start of the day with plenty of room to do things, some people go nuts about Trfel. When at the end of the day it turns out he didn't deliver jack for real, they start lynching into cop claims.


If you remember, vivax himself was one of those people going nuts about trfl but now he's trying to set himself up for an "I told you so" moment after trfl doesn't deliver.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:39 GMT
#3099
On July 08 2015 09:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).


alrightt why?

Why what?
Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that?
Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment
Why do I now think he's scum?

If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.


the 4th one

I think geript is town and trfel is scum. Vivax chainsaws trfl by attacking geript but then when the heat is off of trfl vivax decides now it's ok for trfl to die in one single cop out post.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote:
All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.

Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS.


chainsaw

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
I decided that Trfel can die too, so if HF wants a lynch on him he can have my vote.

I saw no elaboration on his scott scumread and the talk about LS looks like he just needed that read to have something to talk about. His HF suspicion fell into the water as well.

Instead what we get are a bunch of apologetic posts and empty promises.


about face

Honestl vivax just can't keep his story straight, I could right a longer analysis but I have a bigger fish to fry that I'll spend y time on but I'll leave you with this:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote:
This game is insane, at the start of the day with plenty of room to do things, some people go nuts about Trfel. When at the end of the day it turns out he didn't deliver jack for real, they start lynching into cop claims.


If you remember, vivax himself was one of those people going nuts about trfl but now he's trying to set himself up for an "I told you so" moment after trfl doesn't deliver.


hmm this isn't awful
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:41 GMT
#3100
have you played with vivarino before?
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