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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:46 GMT
#2761
people hate the ballsy lynches always
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 20:46 GMT
#2762
^That's gonna be awkward if they flip mafia.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 20:46 GMT
#2763
sure milo, but needs must
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 20:47 GMT
#2764
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.
Retired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 20:47 GMT
#2765
Like MZ has a history of fucking off regardless of alignment. BM tends to fuck off and be useless a bit more as mafia. Plus he has a history as mafia of claiming and intentionally doing nothing except not get modkilled.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 20:47 GMT
#2766
On July 08 2015 05:47 geript wrote:
Like MZ has a history of fucking off regardless of alignment. BM tends to fuck off and be useless a bit more as mafia. Plus he has a history as mafia of claiming and intentionally doing nothing except not get modkilled.

i'd agree with this but people have been saying BM was super afk last game as town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 20:50 GMT
#2767
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 20:51 GMT
#2768
HF, since you asked....

On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz

rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me

rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct

rsoultin cases me

rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum

marv says no

rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again

11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?



On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol ruxx/hf prob scum

Get rekt

To the rest of y'all...learn to read


Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town....

If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you....

On July 07 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote:
harkon, what you got?

you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore


disregard

i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording

he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular

i could retrieve the post

like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass


The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it.

I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:51 GMT
#2769
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


The nightkills will tell us quite a bit.

Or did you forget about that since you fake-claimed?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 20:51 GMT
#2770
EBWOP that was just one of the many quotes but yeh she was on about ruxxar for awhile.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 20:51 GMT
#2771
But I'm either going to be killed or roleblocked. So life sucks. I hate you all.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 20:52 GMT
#2772
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 20:52 GMT
#2773
I've switched as well to MZ btw.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 07 2015 20:53 GMT
#2774
So who should I vote and why?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 20:53 GMT
#2775
I will be on phone until deadline.
Good luck everyone. I'll be around and reading if I can but expect nothing.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:53 GMT
#2776
On July 07 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
do i really need to be all collegiate again cause that worked so well last time when y'all ignored my scumread on marv that was completely baller


for someone who says the above and then writes this post:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel
Hm?


It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss.


I will never back down from this busread. It's far too similar to what I used to experience and what I would be posting in that situation.

You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun


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On July 06 2015 16:00 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:55 Trfel wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:54 Holyflare wrote:
Hey, your vote means nothing anyway right? What harm is it following me for a bit?
I thought you were never ever going to change your read on me no matter what?


Who says my vote will be changing and why would that matter?

I know it's hard man. I feel your pain i really do. You're in the trolling and pointing out irrelevant crap for the sake of it part of the mafiarollingitis waiting for a scummy post or your motivation to reappear. It will happen later but it's already too late for you. Rest dear boy. Your time shall come again next game.


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On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote:
I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand.


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On July 06 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote:
What shitty logic "i know this guy best so just stop playing the game that you play where you have no information and instead of quizzing people and letting them post I'll just disregard it and blindly defend them!"

There's a reason people seemingly ignore your posts and that's the majority of the reason why.


"you're 100% scum no matter what you do hahaha"
"shut up bitch stop interfering with my quizzing"

not only was that blatant misrepresentation of what i was doing, but it started with me saying this? like, seriously?

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On July 06 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote:
On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote:
But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh

I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds.

Trefel what are you doing?


i missed the vote

like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good

so basically it comes down to strength of agreement


Okay i follow.

You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell.

Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him


xP could get that from reading the thread

i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell


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On July 06 2015 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
or maybe he's already forgotten how stubborn i am, after all lol ><

pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him


pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain that all i was saying there was i didn't agree, and he comes back with:

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On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though.


so not only is hf misrepresenting me, but he's going out of his way to be a dick about it at the same time, and if this is his idea of just "pressuring" or "quizzing" someone, it's sure not coming through in his posts

i'm not usually this fucking paranoid, but after last game when hf and bugs spent d1/n1 deliberately shitting on me and trying to throw me on tilt...especially with how well we usually get along when he's town, i highly doubt this is town hf and i really don't care if the rest of you are too chicken shit to push him

i'm tired of getting nkd and watching hf win

again

and again

has trfel posted anything amazing? no. does that make him scum? no. i read him by his off-brand of humor and a few other indicators...i usually get a solid read on him within his first page of filter. i'm good at it. i don't give a damn if you question him, but hell if you're going to bully me into shutting up by slinging shit at me, hf



On July 07 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:04 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here.


lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game

talk about something else
we're never going to agree on this


no thanks


fine ^^

when can we lynch hf?

On July 07 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
why is hf town marv?

i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past


so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage?

god. like 80%?

normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it.

like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet.

like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh


nh

i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess


does that look like the equivalent response???
then there's a shit fight about trfel and we get:

On July 07 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:34 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso and Hf stop fighting.

You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this.

^
Especially rsoultin stop defending people for no reason if you aren't going to explain anything.


do you have any clue how frustrating this is?

HOLYFLARE IS MAFIA

maybe the all-caps will make this get through your thick skulls

i'm not fucking defending truffle i'm saying hf is fucking mafia for the way he's approaching this

>< whatever

i'm not doing this anymore you guys keep being obtuse


and then she just talks to me normally right after discussing all the reads??

it's so irrational

+ Show Spoiler +
maybe because she's a woman, probably because she's mafia
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 20:54 GMT
#2777
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:54 GMT
#2778
On July 08 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:
HF, since you asked....

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz

rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me

rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct

rsoultin cases me

rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum

marv says no

rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again

11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?



Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol ruxx/hf prob scum

Get rekt

To the rest of y'all...learn to read


Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town....

If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you....

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote:
harkon, what you got?

you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore


disregard

i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording

he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular

i could retrieve the post

like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass


The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it.

I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though.


yes obviously she has some scum reads but they are based on useless crap like the phrasing of ruxxar's post that isn't even weird in the slightest and meant nothing and that's about it, it's not intuitive of deep at all
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:54 GMT
#2779
On July 08 2015 05:51 milo109 wrote:
But I'm either going to be killed or roleblocked. So life sucks. I hate you all.

That is your own fault for being scummy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:57 GMT
#2780
lol we don't even have a majority on mz yet
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