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On June 18 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:i actually agree with this in a skim, especially just a filter skim, maybe...but you'd expect him to have gone back and checked it when he'd already been told he was wrong :/ and regardless he was clearly aware of my post so he had to have seen the posts in the thread, since hf wasn't quoting me i'm fine with a bf lynch...i'd kind of expected him to come back with something else since he said he still needed to read
if you skim my filter they are literally the posts next to each other which is even worse -.-
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On June 18 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote:
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i see no reason to lynch ls over his claim
if he's scum he's being coached to do it specifically to break meta
and rit...claiming vt and blue claiming are a bit different...can we at least agree that one of those actions is inherently riskier than the other?
not saying they're the same thing, saying it's the same defense
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Hi I am here,
few things I noticed so far
1) very unlikely that onegu/LS are both mafia together. They would have had to have planned out their beginning interaction with onegu claiming vt and LS snap attacking it and posting another game where he did it as scum. Seems unlikely considering LS reputation as lazy scum and the fact that onegu just disappeared from the thread after it.
2) gb's reactions to rsoul are extremely shady
GB starts with an extremely soft defense and deflection away from rs
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I usually ignore her until LYLO. If she is alive we just vote her.
I'm not really putting too much thought on her right now. Time will tell.
But following this you pretty much immediately vote her even tho you later defend her by saying you shouldn't vote for people with the longest filters day1 (why did you vote for her in the first place then?)
While Gbs vote is still on her you say this
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, trust the tone read rsoultin gives on damdred and me
I've been discussing games with her for a long while and he does that every time. And she does it correctly.
Like, I told her I was freezingfoot last game and she said: you're scum right? you don't feel like town gb
I trust her tone reads as genuine
What is rubbing me the wrong way is the shitfight she entered and the refusal to get off of it.
If you are unsure of her alignment why are you telling people to trust her tone read on you?
A lot of this strikes me as TMI, as in you already know rsouls alignment. You were willing to go along with possibly lynching her when bugs was pushing hard and the sentiment was against her but once it started to turn you softly back paddled. And now you are only focusing on lynching into lurkers.
Along with all of this GB has like 20 town reads already but does he have any scum reads on people who aren't lurkers?
So a couple questions GB, definitively do you think rsoul is more likely town or mafia? Also, who out of the active people do you think is the most likely to be mafia? I assume you dont believe the entire mafia team are within the lurkers.
Rsoul I would also like to hear whether you think your tone read holds up on Gb and whether you think he is still town simply because he is disorganized.
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Boxer is definitely shady so far, his time lines don't match up. Common for newer scum players to promise work at X time and then not know what to post so they dont deliver it.
Boxer why did you pick holyflare and Kelsier as the only 2 filters you have read?
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okay, well lol
i'm going to continue to defy nhm cause i think it's hilarious that (she?) thinks that even if she's generally townread she can single-handedly get me lynched (hint, lovely: townread =/= right necessarily or that you have enough thread pull for it xP), cause i despise threats in general...while yes hypocritically making them woot \o/
but mostly cause i want to review everything which i couldn't do on my phone ^^
out for a bit then i'll be back, in my own time
-ksc
-shocckey
were the two everyone's interested in, i think?
leaning toward bf right now though
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I actually starting to like Mig a little bit his first posts he actually brought something original to the table regarding GB :O
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On June 18 2015 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
okay, well lol
i'm going to continue to defy nhm cause i think it's hilarious that (she?) thinks that even if she's generally townread she can single-handedly get me lynched (hint, lovely: townread =/= right necessarily or that you have enough thread pull for it xP), cause i despise threats in general...while yes hypocritically making them woot \o/
but mostly cause i want to review everything which i couldn't do on my phone ^^
out for a bit then i'll be back, in my own time
-ksc
-shocckey
were the two everyone's interested in, i think?
leaning toward bf right now though
KSC isn't going to be lynched today and I will fight his lynch with all my might.
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On June 18 2015 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I actually starting to like Mig a little bit his first posts he actually brought something original to the table regarding GB :O
how unexpected
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On June 18 2015 06:12 Mig wrote:Hi I am here, few things I noticed so far 1) very unlikely that onegu/LS are both mafia together. They would have had to have planned out their beginning interaction with onegu claiming vt and LS snap attacking it and posting another game where he did it as scum. Seems unlikely considering LS reputation as lazy scum and the fact that onegu just disappeared from the thread after it. 2) gb's reactions to rsoul are extremely shady GB starts with an extremely soft defense and deflection away from rs + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I usually ignore her until LYLO. If she is alive we just vote her.
I'm not really putting too much thought on her right now. Time will tell.
But following this you pretty much immediately vote her even tho you later defend her by saying you shouldn't vote for people with the longest filters day1 (why did you vote for her in the first place then?) While Gbs vote is still on her you say this + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, trust the tone read rsoultin gives on damdred and me
I've been discussing games with her for a long while and he does that every time. And she does it correctly.
Like, I told her I was freezingfoot last game and she said: you're scum right? you don't feel like town gb
I trust her tone reads as genuine
What is rubbing me the wrong way is the shitfight she entered and the refusal to get off of it. If you are unsure of her alignment why are you telling people to trust her tone read on you? A lot of this strikes me as TMI, as in you already know rsouls alignment. You were willing to go along with possibly lynching her when bugs was pushing hard and the sentiment was against her but once it started to turn you softly back paddled. And now you are only focusing on lynching into lurkers. Along with all of this GB has like 20 town reads already but does he have any scum reads on people who aren't lurkers? So a couple questions GB, definitively do you think rsoul is more likely town or mafia? Also, who out of the active people do you think is the most likely to be mafia? I assume you dont believe the entire mafia team are within the lurkers. Rsoul I would also like to hear whether you think your tone read holds up on Gb and whether you think he is still town simply because he is disorganized.
rsoul code:
boring = bad = dropping read
i'll revisit later though
i can't keep up on my phone...it's true that i was right the one time when i just read his smurf filter and he was hyperfocused on blah but i've been wrong on him, too, and yes that post did kinda read weird to me but in all honesty the "trust rsoul anyway" bit...and maybe this is poor reasoning...sounded like maybe town hedging bets in case i turned out to be scum. he knows i'm town if he's scum, so he shouldn't need to say that at all
i guess the other way to read that is it allows him to continue scumreading me, but that's not how i interpreted it the first time i read it
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On June 18 2015 06:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
okay, well lol
i'm going to continue to defy nhm cause i think it's hilarious that (she?) thinks that even if she's generally townread she can single-handedly get me lynched (hint, lovely: townread =/= right necessarily or that you have enough thread pull for it xP), cause i despise threats in general...while yes hypocritically making them woot \o/
but mostly cause i want to review everything which i couldn't do on my phone ^^
out for a bit then i'll be back, in my own time
-ksc
-shocckey
were the two everyone's interested in, i think?
leaning toward bf right now though KSC isn't going to be lynched today and I will fight his lynch with all my might.
and i will actually read the cases people are bringing. if you'd like to counter it, be my guest 
is there a reason you demanded my presence beyond asking where damdy and i were pointlessly?
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On June 18 2015 06:12 Mig wrote:Hi I am here, few things I noticed so far 1) very unlikely that onegu/LS are both mafia together. They would have had to have planned out their beginning interaction with onegu claiming vt and LS snap attacking it and posting another game where he did it as scum. Seems unlikely considering LS reputation as lazy scum and the fact that onegu just disappeared from the thread after it. 2) gb's reactions to rsoul are extremely shady GB starts with an extremely soft defense and deflection away from rs + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I usually ignore her until LYLO. If she is alive we just vote her.
I'm not really putting too much thought on her right now. Time will tell.
But following this you pretty much immediately vote her even tho you later defend her by saying you shouldn't vote for people with the longest filters day1 (why did you vote for her in the first place then?) While Gbs vote is still on her you say this + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, trust the tone read rsoultin gives on damdred and me
I've been discussing games with her for a long while and he does that every time. And she does it correctly.
Like, I told her I was freezingfoot last game and she said: you're scum right? you don't feel like town gb
I trust her tone reads as genuine
What is rubbing me the wrong way is the shitfight she entered and the refusal to get off of it. If you are unsure of her alignment why are you telling people to trust her tone read on you? A lot of this strikes me as TMI, as in you already know rsouls alignment. You were willing to go along with possibly lynching her when bugs was pushing hard and the sentiment was against her but once it started to turn you softly back paddled. And now you are only focusing on lynching into lurkers. Along with all of this GB has like 20 town reads already but does he have any scum reads on people who aren't lurkers? So a couple questions GB, definitively do you think rsoul is more likely town or mafia? Also, who out of the active people do you think is the most likely to be mafia? I assume you dont believe the entire mafia team are within the lurkers. Rsoul I would also like to hear whether you think your tone read holds up on Gb and whether you think he is still town simply because he is disorganized.
Her play as both alignments is very similar. But when she is town she is a threat to scum, usually, which means she won't survive until LYLO.
When I said to "trust" her reads, I mean her reasoning, not that it was coming from either alignments. I chat a lot with her and she usually gives this tone reads while observing games and she was correct every time she did that. So, I meant that you can trust her reads are GENUINE, not FABRICATED. It doesn't defines her alignment.
In other words, I prefer to treat her as town rather than mafia because she gave these reads and they look correct to me (I also feel Damdred is town and I'm town). I don't see mafia rsoultin calling both me and damdred town without actively trying to buddy us (she is definetly not trying to buddy me).
Out of the active people, I'm flipping my reads a lot. I have problems with bugs and I'm starting to have problems with Holyflare, and somewhat reevaluating the townread I gave Breshke. If I had to choose ONE, I think I'd stick to bugs, I think. This is actually the first time I don't have a firm scumread at this point.
The problem is that I'd rather lynch a question mark than an active mafia day1. I'm not carrying information-less people to later days.
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On June 18 2015 06:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
okay, well lol
i'm going to continue to defy nhm cause i think it's hilarious that (she?) thinks that even if she's generally townread she can single-handedly get me lynched (hint, lovely: townread =/= right necessarily or that you have enough thread pull for it xP), cause i despise threats in general...while yes hypocritically making them woot \o/
but mostly cause i want to review everything which i couldn't do on my phone ^^
out for a bit then i'll be back, in my own time
-ksc
-shocckey
were the two everyone's interested in, i think?
leaning toward bf right now though KSC isn't going to be lynched today and I will fight his lynch with all my might. and i will actually read the cases people are bringing. if you'd like to counter it, be my guest is there a reason you demanded my presence beyond asking where damdy and i were pointlessly?
Yes
I missed you 
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this bf thing ... i think the scum read he gave on you, hf, is bad.
I also think If i'm reading the thread it is pretty obvious that your response is not to rsol's large post just above it.
his absence from the thread is probably more telling than the case itself. It feels like he felt that he had to post something and just vomited a read and then left.
If he returns maybe there will be more to judge him on but i'd happily lynch him.
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Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim?
Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time.
Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game.
When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell  The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.
And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town).
Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games.
LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum?
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REASON TO NOT LYNCH KELSIER TODAY
6 pages of filter.
Bye.
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On June 18 2015 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:
this bf thing ... i think the scum read he gave on you, hf, is bad.
I also think If i'm reading the thread it is pretty obvious that your response is not to rsol's large post just above it.
his absence from the thread is probably more telling than the case itself. It feels like he felt that he had to post something and just vomited a read and then left.
If he returns maybe there will be more to judge him on but i'd happily lynch him.
he did return to do nothing but defend his read
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 06:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Her play as both alignments is very similar. But when she is town she is a threat to scum, usually, which means she won't survive until LYLO.
When I said to "trust" her reads, I mean her reasoning, not that it was coming from either alignments. I chat a lot with her and she usually gives this tone reads while observing games and she was correct every time she did that. So, I meant that you can trust her reads are GENUINE, not FABRICATED. It doesn't defines her alignment.
In other words, I prefer to treat her as town rather than mafia because she gave these reads and they look correct to me (I also feel Damdred is town and I'm town). I don't see mafia rsoultin calling both me and damdred town without actively trying to buddy us (she is definetly not trying to buddy me).
Out of the active people, I'm flipping my reads a lot. I have problems with bugs and I'm starting to have problems with Holyflare, and somewhat reevaluating the townread I gave Breshke. If I had to choose ONE, I think I'd stick to bugs, I think. This is actually the first time I don't have a firm scumread at this point.
The problem is that I'd rather lynch a question mark than an active mafia day1. I'm not carrying information-less people to later days.
55 pages in and no scum reads :/
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On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim? Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time. Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game. When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out. And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town). Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games. LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum?
I don't got anything original sorry Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red.
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WBG I read some of what you posted and I see you went to a lot of trouble so.
I've questioned and pushed LS very hard and in my opinion I highlighted aspects of his play that were scummy.
his calling everyone town, not reading the thread, his whole debacle around shockey.
then you add in how he flipped the read on shockey to call him mafia and the inconsistent parts around that.
I feel LS is mafia, when he claimed blue I felt I had him in the noose, he was trying to dodge the pressure and avoid being lynched. I think if he is town he can work his way out of that spot.
I also think my push on shockey was pretty strong.
You have basically said i'm doing fuck all and not reading..I disagree with this completely and I don't think you truly believe it either.
With regards to the anger thing. Assassination mafia I was cop, it was a tightly controlled game. I was on good behaviour. This game it's less tight and i'm kind of pissed off RL.
If you want to ask me some questions then I will answer in a civil manner for the benefit of the thread.
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On June 18 2015 06:30 Mig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 06:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Her play as both alignments is very similar. But when she is town she is a threat to scum, usually, which means she won't survive until LYLO.
When I said to "trust" her reads, I mean her reasoning, not that it was coming from either alignments. I chat a lot with her and she usually gives this tone reads while observing games and she was correct every time she did that. So, I meant that you can trust her reads are GENUINE, not FABRICATED. It doesn't defines her alignment.
In other words, I prefer to treat her as town rather than mafia because she gave these reads and they look correct to me (I also feel Damdred is town and I'm town). I don't see mafia rsoultin calling both me and damdred town without actively trying to buddy us (she is definetly not trying to buddy me).
Out of the active people, I'm flipping my reads a lot. I have problems with bugs and I'm starting to have problems with Holyflare, and somewhat reevaluating the townread I gave Breshke. If I had to choose ONE, I think I'd stick to bugs, I think. This is actually the first time I don't have a firm scumread at this point.
The problem is that I'd rather lynch a question mark than an active mafia day1. I'm not carrying information-less people to later days. 55 pages in and no scum reads :/
Ikr?
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