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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:42 GMT
#2257
LS I think it would be useful if you talked through the logic of unclaiming blue there

I also want you to hardclaim that you are VT. No going back on this.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:44 GMT
#2263
On June 19 2015 08:42 rsoultin wrote:
yeah ls/gb doesn't make much sense hf

blah i keep saying i'm going to get food

i need to

i'm out unless i have questions later...not gonna post again until i actually review the thread, eat your heart out wbg


Why does LS/GB make no sense?

GB flipped his read on me when I was trying to get LS to talk about shockey. This obviously could mean jack shit but I don't see reasons why ls/gb doesn't make sense.

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:46 GMT
#2267
On June 19 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:42 rsoultin wrote:
yeah ls/gb doesn't make much sense hf

blah i keep saying i'm going to get food

i need to

i'm out unless i have questions later...not gonna post again until i actually review the thread, eat your heart out wbg


Why does LS/GB make no sense?

GB flipped his read on me when I was trying to get LS to talk about shockey. This obviously could mean jack shit but I don't see reasons why ls/gb doesn't make sense.



Derr cos of the votes, nevermind
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:50 GMT
#2280
On June 19 2015 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:42 Breshke wrote:
LS I think it would be useful if you talked through the logic of unclaiming blue there

I also want you to hardclaim that you are VT. No going back on this.

I am VT this game and I unclaimed because everyone questioned my claim I didn't really expect to much on and decided enough was enough. I prob just replace out because I just can't play this game as last Friday a friend of mine from High School died in a Car Accident and I only found out after I signed up. I thought that I can play but then with the shit happening this game I can't play it anymore and will commit Sudoku.


Dude this is just a game no one actually cares about anyone making bad plays literally everyone has done it no matter what people say. There is no reason to replace out or not play you just needed to explain your thought process behind why you did stuff and people will most likely understand even if they play wasn't optimal.

Im extremely sorry about your friend and my condolences go out to you and his family.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:53 GMT
#2286
On June 19 2015 08:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:35 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:24 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:02 Breshke wrote:
HF i think him saying there is 4 mafia is a weak and doesn't really make him scum.

GB who is your top scumread as of now? Has your read on me changed at all?

Also not sidetrack anything but

On June 18 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and had a question:
On June 18 2015 17:48 Breshke wrote:
Actually when he is back next I want LS to explain WHY he claimed there.

I was tired of being pressured to the extreme from KSC so I claimed there......


Why does one person pressuring you make you claim when you know that is a bad play? One person alone can not lynch you and many others were townreading you.

Because honestly I really dislike pressure on me esp when it was hardcore pressure (See Metal Mini and Newbie LX where I claimed VT under pressure) and felt like KSC was hardcore pressuring me.


But there is a difference between claiming VT and claiming blue. Even when the blue role is named VT. If you're town why do you care about being pressured especially when heaps of people thought you were town.

I just don't respond to pressure well and you know this -_-


So you would rather not be pressured which is a natural thing to happen in the game and instead have people flame you about claiming blue?

I think the later is worse and I don't understand why your dislike of being pressured is greater than your dislike of people saying your play was bad and getting angry at you.


sup dude.

do you actually think LS is scum or just bad? I'm trying to figure out why you are grilling him on this pressure thing and it doesn't quite make sense to me.

Also who do you think is scum right now? What do you think in particular of the later BF voters, e.g. NHM, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy?


I have no idea about LS. I feel like he is probably town but something about the claim really irks me because he did it because he dislikes pressure but he knows people will get pissed at him and fairly sure he would dislike that more. It is probably a case of being rewarded in the short term (stopping the ksc pressure) and not thinking about the later consequences (people getting pissed at him) if he is named VT so I'll probs drop it.

Ive missed a lot of pages because EoD is early morning here so idk about nydus i rememebr thinking he was pretty townie and liked his question to all BF voters even though it gor ignored

I dont care about onegu

I think mig is still scummy based off of the ritoky post. (same opion as last night)

Shockeyys question to GB the "why shouldnt i lynch you?" and then getting pissed he didnt answer is ridiculous and I think his switch to BF was the most weird. Would lynch.

I also think GB is still scum and that he most recent flip then not flip on me makes no sense


Yeah I agree for the most part.

I can potentially see one or two of Mig/Onegu/Shockeyy with GB being scum, I think they all look pretty bad. The thing though is each has some favorable points, e.g. Shockeyy actually had that post re GB's meta but then he ended up unvoting him and hammering boxerfred. Like if he legitimately thought GB was scum why the fuck would he hammer BF? If GB ends up being scum then I think Shockeyy is also very likely to flip scum for that reason cause that voting pattern makes very little sense.

And then there is Onegu who wasted his vote until the last moment on one of his supposed town reads. I'm not sure how more useless one can be. idk why but it almost feels as if the way he is taunting is in a sense like pushing the boundary of how much he can get away with. I didn't get this impression from him when I played with him in Witchcraft which is rather strange. There he seemed a bit trolly and self important but nothing like he is here.

My concern with Mig is kinda similar to Shockeyy in that he said he was going to vote for GB but then ended up voting BF. At the time he seemed to rationalize it fine but looking back it's pretty shady. He did ask me for opinions which I think as scum he'd probably be a bit wary of doing because I'm pretty sure he knows I can read him pretty well. So that is at least a positive, but I am looking for him to talk with me more tonight at the very least or I'd consider him scum if I end up dying tonight.

I gotta reread after this LS unclaim shit though..


Yeah I didn't know that about shockey so that is extra bad. Especially considering he is now nowhere to be seen.

Onegu did claim he had been townreading GB since early in the game. If that is true or not who knows since he seemed to not want to actually participate much which is a shame.

Did you see the thing ritoky had on mig? What was your reaction to it?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:58 GMT
#2298
LS talk to me like people want to lynch you so what ignore them for now.

So I was pressuring your blueclaim. Why did you unclaim? Noone had counterclaimed you so you knew it was fairly safe that there wasnt an actual named VT. You don't like pressure so why did you think unclaiming blue would take away pressure from you?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:59 GMT
#2300
Okay boys everyone unzip looks like we are having another dick mesuring contest
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 18 2015 23:59 GMT
#2302
On June 19 2015 08:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 08:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:53 ritoky wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:52 ritoky wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:49 ritoky wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 19 2015 08:42 Breshke wrote:
LS I think it would be useful if you talked through the logic of unclaiming blue there

I also want you to hardclaim that you are VT. No going back on this.

I am VT this game and I unclaimed because everyone questioned my claim I didn't really expect to much on and decided enough was enough. I prob just replace out because I just can't play this game as last Friday a friend of mine from High School died in a Car Accident and I only found out after I signed up. I thought that I can play but then with the shit happening this game I can't play it anymore and will commit Sudoku.


I mean no offense to you or your situation personally; that sucks and I am sorry. However, that does not excuse your play and I am lynching your slot without question unless a vigi shoots you first regardless of if you sub out or not.

Are you willing to play against your win conditions?


Why are you fishing for modkills? You're BY FAR the most anti-town player in the game and towns victory. The ONLY reason you weren't lynched yesterday is your claim. It is invalid, so now the possibility of an anti-town blue is gone. You are scum. Die.


*and an impediment to towns victory

I done I not going to play nothing I will say or do will change your dumb mind.


don't quit LS.

despite me thinking your claim and subsequent unclaim was really stupid it doesn't actually make you scum and nothing some jubjubs say should make you quit.

I just to pissed to play atm and will get lynched regardless what I say or do.


then ignore everyone calling you scum

literally just don't acknowledge any of their posts and start quoting posts that you think make people scummy and the reasons why they are scummy

for now take a break from the thread since you're clearly not in the right headspace to say or do anything and then come back with a clear mind and start spewing reads


Okay this is probably better than what i said LS
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 00:08 GMT
#2316
On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry BF.

For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts.


So I just want to post this again because I think its a good question and a bunch of the people who voted on BFarn't around but should answer this when they get back.

I also hope nydus is planning on answering this himself.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 00:35 GMT
#2329
On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this:

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.

##unvote
##vote GlowingBear


like this is really fucking weird



You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.


what do you think about GB now?


Also bugs what information should people gather from you and ritoky discussing who is better than who?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 00:41 GMT
#2333
On June 19 2015 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:35 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this:

On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.

##unvote
##vote GlowingBear


like this is really fucking weird



You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.


what do you think about GB now?


Also bugs what information should people gather from you and ritoky discussing who is better than who?


they can gather whatever information they want, really

most people in this game don't seem to have the ability to comprehend what they read anyway


Yeah but you can see where VA is coming from. You said last game (i think?) that your main problem was not forming reads but convincing others of those reads.It doesn't help if your filter has splattering s of posts which arn't that useful and are tiresome to read again and again.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 00:42 GMT
#2334
On June 19 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:35 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this:

On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.

##unvote
##vote GlowingBear


like this is really fucking weird



You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.


what do you think about GB now?


Also bugs what information should people gather from you and ritoky discussing who is better than who?


<3

bresh i'm gonna bounce my thoughts off you later; you plan on being around yeah?


Should be, I have work in like 8 hours (which will go for 5 hours) But I assume you mean before then
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 01:19 GMT
#2344
LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 01:49 GMT
#2347
On June 19 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more.

I will be in about a half hour because I playing Liquidlegends.net inhouses atm but you can drop by the claim question stuff now if you want to talk about it.


Yeah im just wondering why you unclaimed. Since the original reason for claiming was to get rid of pressure so isn't that pressure jsut going to come back? Also you claim was fairly safe since you hadn't been CC'd and you didnt have any abilities that you had to prove.

This is like fringe stuff though so if you want to talk about your reads like ritoky said that is fine and probably better.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 02:09 GMT
#2353
On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...

i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)

lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered

like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing

he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly

that's my spiel


damnnn this read feels dirty.

What if after last game he decided to try and step it up.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 02:19 GMT
#2357
On June 19 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 11:09 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...

i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)

lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered

like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing

he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly

that's my spiel


damnnn this read feels dirty.

What if after last game he decided to try and step it up.


dirty in what way?

like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time


Like dirty as in it can't be argued with if that makes sense? Maybe more like scum will be pissed because there goes a misslynch they could have gotten and there is nothing they can really do about it because it is based not on what LS has provided for the game but on who he is as a person.

Dirty was definitely the wrong word but I think that jsut comes from the fact that I will probably never vote on LS because of it.

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 02:24 GMT
#2359
On June 19 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:08 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry BF.

For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts.


So I just want to post this again because I think its a good question and a bunch of the people who voted on BFarn't around but should answer this when they get back.

I also hope nydus is planning on answering this himself.


Only fidei answered and I didn't like it very much since his entire game right now hinges on "inactivity due to spam." Same as his reason for not voting on GB? I'm thinking that GB could very well be mafia but I'll tell you my opinion on him when the day starts. We're going to start a good scum hunt when the day starts boys. I can feel it in my bones.


Hmm. I find this very intresting but im happy to wait for the day to start.

I disliked that when fidel was talking about how he came about his town read on GB he talked more about his last game than this game. I get he was trying to find a parallel but it felt very rushed considering he apparently just read the guys entire filter and that he is going against what is thread consensus
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 02:26 GMT
#2363
On June 19 2015 11:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 11:19 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:
On June 19 2015 11:09 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...

i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)

lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered

like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing

he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly

that's my spiel


damnnn this read feels dirty.

What if after last game he decided to try and step it up.


dirty in what way?

like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time


Like dirty as in it can't be argued with if that makes sense? Maybe more like scum will be pissed because there goes a misslynch they could have gotten and there is nothing they can really do about it because it is based not on what LS has provided for the game but on who he is as a person.

Dirty was definitely the wrong word but I think that jsut comes from the fact that I will probably never vote on LS because of it.



lol sorry >< i wasn't trying to manipulate anyone really, just...i don't think after coming to that conclusion that i can easily avoid tearing into people for going after him so i figured it best to just post it now


nah it isn't manipulative idk where you got that from.\ the read is fine the read is good.

It is a necessary thing to post and it makes sense and it prevents town from going down a bad path.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 02:28 GMT
#2364
On June 19 2015 11:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 11:24 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:08 Breshke wrote:
On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry BF.

For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts.


So I just want to post this again because I think its a good question and a bunch of the people who voted on BFarn't around but should answer this when they get back.

I also hope nydus is planning on answering this himself.


Only fidei answered and I didn't like it very much since his entire game right now hinges on "inactivity due to spam." Same as his reason for not voting on GB? I'm thinking that GB could very well be mafia but I'll tell you my opinion on him when the day starts. We're going to start a good scum hunt when the day starts boys. I can feel it in my bones.


Hmm. I find this very intresting but im happy to wait for the day to start.

I disliked that when fidel was talking about how he came about his town read on GB he talked more about his last game than this game. I get he was trying to find a parallel but it felt very rushed considering he apparently just read the guys entire filter and that he is going against what is thread consensus


fidei town


Why's that again?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 19 2015 02:44 GMT
#2366
On June 19 2015 11:28 rsoultin wrote:
my one just trust me read


hahaha that isn't going to work so well but we will see how stuff turns out.

What about damdred do you still have the same toneread?
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