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NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 17 2015 17:11 GMT
#841
I don't believe boxerfred when he says that the first thing he noticed was holyflare being scummy. BS that he didn't notice anything else. I understand that he said he was skimming but there was so much worse shit that whatever holyflare did.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 17:12 GMT
#842
On June 18 2015 02:11 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't believe boxerfred when he says that the first thing he noticed was holyflare being scummy. BS that he didn't notice anything else. I understand that he said he was skimming but there was so much worse shit that whatever holyflare did.


yeh I think he just wanted to call someone scummy.
Zerg for Life
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:13 GMT
#843
On June 18 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel?


##unvote
##vote LightningStrike

I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3


lol no

Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack.

now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this
maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him
where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why?
also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it.
You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway.

I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not.


so you still have no scum reads of your own. shocker.

It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 17:13 GMT
#844
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 17:14 GMT
#845
On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel?


##unvote
##vote LightningStrike

I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3


lol no

Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack.

now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this
maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him
where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why?
also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it.
You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway.

I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not.


so you still have no scum reads of your own. shocker.

It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.


i don't care about any of that.
Zerg for Life
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 17 2015 17:14 GMT
#846
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?


Lightning + Shockey. They have a natural affinity for one another kappa
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:17 GMT
#847
On June 18 2015 02:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
Shockey is also pretty defensive (I wouldn't say super defensive) and doesn't really seem to be scum hunting.

That what I getting from his posts too a little and his list post doesn't seem to be as thoughtful as his list posts from his last game (Witchcraft III) and here his very first list post I think from what I remember from the game:
On June 09 2015 01:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 01:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 09 2015 01:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2015 00:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote wherebugsgo

Bugs posts in the beginning are trollish, but who knows just following the hype train from reading the thread atm.

Anymore thoughts outside of Bugs opening?


I've only gone through the opening, but Kickstart's and Breshke posts seem legit, Onegu is hiding to not get sniped first day. I'll sheep BM just cause I want to atm. It's the first day, hard to tell anything about anybody. Especially when there is other people who have yet to really post.

Then there is the smurf, but he's been active so w.e



I liked Kickstarts opening, very part of the game, he went ahead and started with some roleplay basically saying he's town which is why I quickly can say he's town (obviously it's still the beginning, the posting can get worse) and he went ahead and started questioning bugs cause of this:

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller

also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great


It's an opening post, but it's just so ugly for it being one of the first opening posts.

Breshke - You can just tell he's playing a townie, then why all the questions that force others to really give their opinions of other players?

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 14:57 Breshke wrote:
On June 09 2015 14:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
Onegu is much more a coin flip than anything. He should definetely not be lynched today.
I think LS is the same. He always is this passive regardless of alignment


why is shockey not a coin flip as well then? Is he not new?


I'm not new to these forums. I've definitely have played Mafia here before, but it's been a long time since then, so in a way I am new once again and I change my play style every game no matter what role. Then what's the point of continually playing when others have such a great read on you? This is why I started playing again, brings enjoyment.


Onegu: He brings points, then leaves - hiding to not really get sniped.

BM: I've played games with him before, always town. So I just rather sheep some one with more knowledge atm.

This was my opening post, now I've explained myself about it because most of you instantly think scum if I don't.

This post is w.e from LS:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2015 21:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up[ and had company over last night hence why my activity was kinda iffy(I thought they would be done earlier but they stayed till 11:15 -_-) and Bugs got a question:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 16:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
LightningStrike, do you have any games of yours that you would suggest I read if I wanted to know more about how you play? Gonna dig around myself but just curious if you can help me along in identifying which games you would consider representative of your town and mafia play.

For town here a mix of my good games and bad games:
Student V: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?user=LightningStrike
Games of Throne: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Titanic VII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike&page=2
Carol of the Bells(Post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=LightningStrike
Assassination(Another post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike
XXX A Night of Debauchery (18+): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=LightningStrike
I only got 3 scum games and here their filters:
Student IV(First scum game ever and 2nd game on TL): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Jack of All Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Guardians of the Galaxy(Latest scum game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
You can check the database if you need more town games
Also you still think FreezingFoot is scum?



I don't like it, why do you link so many previous games to make sure people know how you play as a townie or mafia? And the fact that Bugs asked you makes it strange. Especially when he can just dig around himself, theres a database thread with ctrl + f.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 15:20 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 09 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote:
Actually foot never mind that's a shit question. Would be nice if shockey would come back to the thread


Ok

And Shockey, when you come back to the thread, I ask you catch up and tell who we should lynch


I'm still going to stick to bugs, he's obviously angry about being called out so early into the game that he decides to leave instead, what kind of town motive is that? The google spreadsheet? It's ok, points as BM mafia because he's on an all out against bugs and LS even though they never had another interaction again after the game list above.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
have fun guys, gonna join the lurkers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hJSlotqO9cGIaINjn3EQtuMrxz1p6SH_G4algS3Otk/edit#gid=0

I don't have an interest in playing when no one else has an interest in playing


If the train decides to lynch a lurker (stutters), I doubt he would pull so much attention to himself if he was mafia by just not posting.

idk if this counts as a list post or not but he came some of his reads and thoughts early on in this post that felt much more insightful than what he did this game in his first list post.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:18 GMT
#848
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?

I mean flipping scum obviously -_-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 17:19 GMT
#849
On June 18 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?

I mean flipping scum obviously -_-


that is what i mean aswell, it was a typo.

what do you mean by he has a low chance of flipping scum.
Zerg for Life
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:19 GMT
#850
On June 18 2015 02:14 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?


Lightning + Shockey. They have a natural affinity for one another kappa

Can't tell if trolling in this post I know kappa is a twitch chat meme which is more likely indication of trolling people.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2015 17:19 GMT
#851
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 17 2015 17:21 GMT
#852
On June 18 2015 02:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:14 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?


Lightning + Shockey. They have a natural affinity for one another kappa

Can't tell if trolling in this post I know kappa is a twitch chat meme which is more likely indication of trolling people.


It was a troll :< . Lightning and Shockey are electricity related >.>
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:21 GMT
#853
On June 18 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?

I mean flipping scum obviously -_-


that is what i mean aswell, it was a typo.

what do you mean by he has a low chance of flipping scum.

Like I can see some of his posts being from town but there was some questionables posts mainly his list post it felt weird esp I gave a meta quote from his last game on his early reads and stuff and it seemed much more insightful and structure than his list post this game but keep in mind I only played with him once.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:22 GMT
#854
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target

Thoughts on Shockeyy so far?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 17 2015 17:23 GMT
#855
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target


How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 17:23 GMT
#856
On June 18 2015 02:21 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:14 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?


Lightning + Shockey. They have a natural affinity for one another kappa

Can't tell if trolling in this post I know kappa is a twitch chat meme which is more likely indication of trolling people.


It was a troll :< . Lightning and Shockey are electricity related >.>

Figures :O
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 17:24 GMT
#857
On June 18 2015 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?

I mean flipping scum obviously -_-


that is what i mean aswell, it was a typo.

what do you mean by he has a low chance of flipping scum.

Like I can see some of his posts being from town but there was some questionables posts mainly his list post it felt weird esp I gave a meta quote from his last game on his early reads and stuff and it seemed much more insightful and structure than his list post this game but keep in mind I only played with him once.


There are several reasons for him being scummy, and town players calling him scum. so why does he have a low chance, who has a higher chance, why didn't you mention these scum reads of yours ? if he is your top scum read then why do you put this stupid fucking disclaimer in your post.
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2015 17:24 GMT
#858
On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target

Thoughts on Shockeyy so far?

Later. If you're impatient read my filter
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 17:25 GMT
#859
On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf

Why is your read on me so wishy washy?

The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.

bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target

Thoughts on Shockeyy so far?


she already gave thoughts, are you just not reading the thread ?
Zerg for Life
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 17 2015 17:25 GMT
#860
WAIT WAIT WAIT
##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu
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