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On June 17 2015 21:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 21:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 20:53 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 20:40 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 20:34 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:LS one of the issues I had is that you asked a few questions but there was no follow up to it. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:
Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. This one damdred gave thoughts, you press him for more. Then when you give your list damdred isn't on it..but then you say he's ok afterwards. I'd like you to walk me through your process here. On June 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:16 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: ![[image loading]](http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012010/1264505362_cat-fight.gif) more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? stuff is happening? Interactions of KSC and Bugs plus what people were posting about Onegu's entrance. Then with this one, Why did you ask ritoky about this? again I would like your thought process. I also want to know what you think about shockeyy. I did like damdred's reads for the most part but I was again playing in LoL inhouses at 7:00 pm CST so I didn't post at all to give my thoughts O_o I wanted ritoky's input to get a outsider perspective on it and all I got from him was that it was pretty much null though so ya it ended being a waste  Also shockeyy seems okayish content wise just wish he would post more honestly. well this is interesting. I completely disagree with this I think his posting has been terrible. I think the list post with everyone on it and 1/2 words was scummy , he didn't read what damdred had posted and when he got called out on it he tried to cover up. In fact when the pressure went on him he went pretty defensive imo. It is strange that you like his content when. On June 17 2015 07:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm town Really anyone can just claim town you know -_- On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o derp. LightningStrike already giving himself away again?... On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole Bill Murray - idk ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa ShoCkeyy - Town Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt. Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol. Damdred + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any  seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum? Also can you answer this? On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? Give it a day or two... Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them... You posted afterwards but never responded to this. NydusHerMain - Town? Fidei86 + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ... Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again? On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read. I better see poking this game Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm Mig - waiting GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games. LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes)wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole VayneAuthority - Not much boxerfred - First post is what? Going to leave now, in-laws are in town. you need to give me more than you like his content and it is "okayish" it feels like you didn't even read him at all... Okay I just reread his filter in Witchcraft and he actually now looked worse than I thought I knew something seemed off and it's his list post reasoning seemed worse the ones he did in Witchcraft like I didn't care for his list post he seemed to had been genuine when it comes to thinking I scum again although his read on me is wrong because I do post freely regardless of my alignment(Check my past games Shockeyy) but outside of his list post he seemed to look but not exactly townie atm though. look... what? I think you edited a word out. So I asked you to give a read on shockeyy..you said he looked okay without reading him properly? that seems very strange. Also this makes no sense to me. I didn't care for his list post he seemed to had been genuine when it comes to thinking I scum again although his read on me is wrong because I do post freely regardless of my alignment you don't like his lost post or his reasons but you felt his reason for scum reading you is genuine? His reasoning is that he is playing like he did last game, but now you are saying that isn't true... Well he only played with me when I was scum so ofc I would expect his type of reaction on his first post given based on our history from Witchcraft. Also I forgot to add a word he seemed to look okay outside of his list post. Also I am running on 7 hours of sleep with a sinus headache and just took some medicine so ofc I most likely didn't read his filter properly this game the first time -_-
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So I'm going to give where I'm at in the game so far.
Town
Damdred - I liked his posting and the tone he used for his explanation of LS felt good. I think his response to shockey was pretty towny aswell
Nydus - I've liked his posting and his activity. we haven't played together but he feels like town
GB - he's kind of been doing his own shit but I think he's been around for most of the important points and he's been explaining some of his reasoning e.g why he thought i might be mafia, he went and looked at his own read of onegu and went back on it which felt town.
Ritoky - Made me laugh a few times, been jokey but has been giving input aswell. His point on GB and Damdred was kind of stupid but it felt like he was trying to figure some stuff out.
hf - CONFIRMED TOWN. no in all seriousness when he just voted BM I just thought it would be interesting to see what happened so I went along with it. After reading the thread I liked his posting with regards to bugs and rsoul, I also think the reason for voting BM is actually good.
Scum
LS - tried to spam early literally responding to every joke/picture and then asking questions which in my opinion didn't lead anywhere. It felt like he was trying to mimic town...rather than actually helping town. giving defenses of people and posting old games. I didn't feel this was helping town at all.
I think his early "derp" was quite telling, it showed he just wanted to post rather than think about his posting.
His slip just now with regards to shockey is telling. He said his content was "okay" despite the fact the content was terrible and shockey's scum read was LS himself.
The reasoning for it was poor, but LS said he felt the reason was genuine...but he felt the reason was poor?? this makes no sense. I actually think that LS just straight didn't read shockey and called him town because..he knew he was town? or shockey is a partner?
Shockey - terrible early list post with shit reasons, didn't read damdred properly and when he got pinged he tried to go at damdred..it felt like an aggressive reaction when you just fucked up. a lot his posting just felt like backtracking.
Bugs - early posts were awful, I highlighted this. He's just a massive twat so his fighting doesn't change my opinion of his alignment, when he posts something else then I can look again but for now he is scum.
BM - Hf reason is good
Outside of that there are a few people that I don't know about yet and i'm reading through again.
Feel free to ask questions.
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On June 17 2015 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
Eh maybe not ksc after all
Don't have much time kels but essentially I didn't get why you decided to sheep hf when you couldn't possibly have a townread him after the two to three posts he'd posted lol >< I also didn't agree with your read on ls and don't, but the way you're approaching that read seems okay now so whatevs
Heh plus you just reminded me of shock again XP what do you think of damdy`s time thing regarding shockeys response to me? The f off attitude usually comes from town but i'm not sure if it actually is enough to make up for that list post
I doesn't really change things for me. The initial list post and then his responses to myself and damdred felt scummy. I don't think yawning at you alters things.
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On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.
@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?
@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.
The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).
@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.
I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible.
thanks for your life story and the reasons you play mafia. I'm glad you avoided non-sense and spamming the thread.
Congratulations on your wife's birthday.
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On June 18 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Boxerfred is new HF give it some time bro like Bugs said he only started playing Mafia recently :O
you have to call someone scum eventually.
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On June 18 2015 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
and bm -.-
I don't know why you unvoted him in the first place. clearly mafia.
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On June 18 2015 01:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 01:35 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
and bm -.- I don't know why you unvoted him in the first place. clearly mafia. because there is no greater tease than afking my vote on rsoultin
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On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel?
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On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
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I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3
lol no
Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack.
now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this
maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him
where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why?
also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it.
You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway.
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On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
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I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not.
you have to use I'm not I in those situation or you sound even more like an idiot.
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On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
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I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not.
so you still have no scum reads of your own. shocker.
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On June 18 2015 02:11 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't believe boxerfred when he says that the first thing he noticed was holyflare being scummy. BS that he didn't notice anything else. I understand that he said he was skimming but there was so much worse shit that whatever holyflare did.
yeh I think he just wanted to call someone scummy.
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also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?
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On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
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I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. so you still have no scum reads of your own. shocker. It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell  The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.
i don't care about any of that.
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On June 18 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something? I mean flipping scum obviously -_-
that is what i mean aswell, it was a typo.
what do you mean by he has a low chance of flipping scum.
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On June 18 2015 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something? I mean flipping scum obviously -_- that is what i mean aswell, it was a typo. what do you mean by he has a low chance of flipping scum. Like I can see some of his posts being from town but there was some questionables posts mainly his list post it felt weird esp I gave a meta quote from his last game on his early reads and stuff and it seemed much more insightful and structure than his list post this game but keep in mind I only played with him once.
There are several reasons for him being scummy, and town players calling him scum. so why does he have a low chance, who has a higher chance, why didn't you mention these scum reads of yours ? if he is your top scum read then why do you put this stupid fucking disclaimer in your post.
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On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far?
she already gave thoughts, are you just not reading the thread ?
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On June 18 2015 02:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAIT
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On June 18 2015 02:27 Fidei86 wrote:
I just did a filter dive on Kelsier, and I have to say this is some of the most obnoxious BM I've come across in Mafia so far. I mean, I've sworn before in posts, but not that much. I don't think it's a great way to play, but I can't think that a Mafia would draw that much attention to themselves unnecessarily. I give him a town read, unless anyone has any meta input if they've played with him before?
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