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On June 17 2015 11:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
yes, thanks for giving me a filter and putting the onus on me to explain YOUR read.
that's great fucking town motivation right there. ^^ i'm done with you you don't have the motivation to check your own read despite literally everyone else in the thread thinking you're full of it. even ritoky isn't willing to commit to a scumread on me you can't be assed to make reads on anyone else without being prodded multiple times, and even then only gave a read on damdred which you were ASKED FORhow's that for town motivation ^^
what??? You gave me a link to a game for DAMDRED how is that me not wanting to check a read on YOU
The bold is literally the most hypocritical thing I've ever seen anyone say in a game of mafia
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On June 17 2015 11:54 Holyflare wrote:
you don't have to bus each other you know
I feel great that you also felt like this
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Hf makes me laugh. I want him to keep me safe
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On June 17 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now. Because as I said I don't care for her and I want to form a read on you so I can know if I can work with you or not. Your reads were good last game. Help me identify townies? And stop saying I'm bad when you have no fucking grasp of what I'm talking about. I don't get why you cannot NOT be a prick. Geez.
as I said already I'm not interested in divulging my reads right now, it's too early for me to divulge town reads. However you can read my response to breshke re Damdred if you're really interested in some of my other thought processes right now
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okay wherebugsgo
here is my deal
i spend hours in this thread actually giving reads and opinions and yes, justifying them
yet you want me to sit here and rehash a toneread which i have already said is a toneread, and have the audacity to claim that i'm not putting in effort. first you say it has no justification. then when i repeatedly show you the justification you missed, you finally come around to saying it's not good enough (only after i point out that that is how you should be expressing yourself if you have any brain cells)
i do not give a rat's ass what you think about my EARLY TONEREAD on damdred
i'm right
i'm town
and i'm going to look for scum rather than indulge you
if and only if the rest of this thread feels that your argument actually holds any water will i bother to actually address your flimsy case of nothing
have a good day
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On June 17 2015 11:58 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now. Because as I said I don't care for her and I want to form a read on you so I can know if I can work with you or not. Your reads were good last game. Help me identify townies? And stop saying I'm bad when you have no fucking grasp of what I'm talking about. I don't get why you cannot NOT be a prick. Geez. as I said already I'm not interested in divulging my reads right now, it's too early for me to divulge town reads. However you can read my response to breshke re Damdred if you're really interested in some of my other thought processes right now
I've read it. It's just about Damdred, though.
This is the damning part of your gameplay here. You're not reacting to EVERY weird posts. You're reacting to rsoultin and questions directed solely to you, ONLY.
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yo hf you got a real scumread on me
i'm curious
so very curious
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On June 17 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
yo hf you got a real scumread on me
i'm curious
so very curious
well i'm taking your old meta on me and reversing it so you being an ass to me for no reason is scummy since we usually get along as town
either way continue doing stuff
bugsss i mean i can see where you're coming from i suppose but no motivation to explain things and stubbornness isn't a mafia trait, in fact it's usually a town trait? i'm gonna do some lawyer shenanigans right now though and mediate:
bugs outline your main gripes in concise bullet point format
rsoul answer them in concise bullet point format
let's all be nice and hug it out
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On June 17 2015 12:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
yo hf you got a real scumread on me
i'm curious
so very curious well i'm taking your old meta on me and reversing it so you being an ass to me for no reason is scummy since we usually get along as town either way continue doing stuff bugsss i mean i can see where you're coming from i suppose but no motivation to explain things and stubbornness isn't a mafia trait, in fact it's usually a town trait? i'm gonna do some lawyer shenanigans right now though and mediate: bugs outline your main gripes in concise bullet point format rsoul answer them in concise bullet point format let's all be nice and hug it out
Are you doing mediation in the court? 
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On June 17 2015 12:00 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now. Because as I said I don't care for her and I want to form a read on you so I can know if I can work with you or not. Your reads were good last game. Help me identify townies? And stop saying I'm bad when you have no fucking grasp of what I'm talking about. I don't get why you cannot NOT be a prick. Geez. as I said already I'm not interested in divulging my reads right now, it's too early for me to divulge town reads. However you can read my response to breshke re Damdred if you're really interested in some of my other thought processes right now I've read it. It's just about Damdred, though. This is the damning part of your gameplay here. You're not reacting to EVERY weird posts. You're reacting to rsoultin and questions directed solely to you, ONLY.
since you want to know why I call you dumb, this is pretty much it.
I am not responding to other posts because there is nothing of value to respond to. I am looking at other players but it makes no difference to me right now because it is not even halfway into day 1 and none of those reads at this time matter for anything.
Right now I can't tell whether you are purposely being obtuse as scum or if you are town and you just legitimately didn't pay enough attention to my play last game. To refresh your memory, this is how I play day 1. I firmly believe that players should refrain from throwing reads into the mix when they do not have enough information because it gives scum the opportunity to influence them and react to them before they are validated. Last game you can see this in my play when I rather abruptly shifted from tunneling you to tunneling your teammate LS. At that juncture I had enough people telling me that you were town that I started looking for alternate possibilities while still attacking you (because I wasn't fully convinced otherwise).
That effort paid off in the end and at no point did I want to lynch anyone other than LS that day. Given how much resistance I took then it was the right decision, and commenting on other players would've likely ruined my reads.
Now obviously that game is different and I got quite mad and posted my spreadsheet kinda late into the day but I was really desperate for people to listen to me on LS. Here I kinda am feeling a similar situation in which I really believe rsoultin is scum but I am not getting any support for it.
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On June 17 2015 12:06 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:04 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
yo hf you got a real scumread on me
i'm curious
so very curious well i'm taking your old meta on me and reversing it so you being an ass to me for no reason is scummy since we usually get along as town either way continue doing stuff bugsss i mean i can see where you're coming from i suppose but no motivation to explain things and stubbornness isn't a mafia trait, in fact it's usually a town trait? i'm gonna do some lawyer shenanigans right now though and mediate: bugs outline your main gripes in concise bullet point format rsoul answer them in concise bullet point format let's all be nice and hug it out Are you doing mediation in the court?
nah i just did a bunch of civil litigation and loads of it ends in some form of negotiation
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On June 17 2015 12:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
yo hf you got a real scumread on me
i'm curious
so very curious well i'm taking your old meta on me and reversing it so you being an ass to me for no reason is scummy since we usually get along as town either way continue doing stuff bugsss i mean i can see where you're coming from i suppose but no motivation to explain things and stubbornness isn't a mafia trait, in fact it's usually a town trait? i'm gonna do some lawyer shenanigans right now though and mediate: bugs outline your main gripes in concise bullet point format rsoul answer them in concise bullet point format let's all be nice and hug it out
you disappointed me 
(more to the point, we got along fine when i was scum, so that's just bad, hf. i expect better from you)
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no we didn't i was trying to point something out and you kept chatting shit about the same read above
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either way you're being bad so shape up 
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On June 17 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
no we didn't i was trying to point something out and you kept chatting shit about the same read above
lol now you're going to have to explain this hf. i don't remember there being a problem last game
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On June 17 2015 12:10 Holyflare wrote:either way you're being bad so shape up
you're being brilliant yourself
i don't truuuuuuust you
and since you're in the thread i'd expect to see something by now that would make me more comfortable with you
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i dunno cba to look it up it was something about bunnies and me trying to yell a point and you arguing against it and saying that you'd read me as mafia for "going against your meta"
it's irrelevant either way but bad feels for you trying to pressure me to do stuff when you've seen me not do stuff multiple times
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On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
- boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred
>.< I actually played a round of don't start and found like 10 more pages of posts. I promise to catch up with attention to detail after my SO goes to sleep. For now, I've just skimmed the posts.
On June 17 2015 10:30 rsoultin wrote:
yes, well
do you just not believe me when i said gb doesn't read his own games?
I missed that sorry.
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On June 17 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
i dunno cba to look it up it was something about bunnies and me trying to yell a point and you arguing against it and saying that you'd read me as mafia for "going against your meta"
it's irrelevant either way but bad feels for you trying to pressure me to do stuff when you've seen me not do stuff multiple times
bad reasoning
you always do stuff as town
you don't always do stuff as town right away
this would only be valid if you didn't always do stuff as town
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