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On June 17 2015 11:36 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:28 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:23 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:12 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:05 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 11:04 rsoultin wrote:
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if you're gonna call me scum you better start early and directly, hf
or you could give a rat's ass and play the game
either or i don't see why you're so pissed at me for no reason? either i start playing or i don't i'm still waiting for the semblance of a contribution from you this game ^^ for someone who keeps being standoffish when people push her for responses, you sure are quick to notice a kettle. read hf's filter. read mine. then say we're the same i was talking with HF in some obs QT and he was going on about how he was tired of dying N1 all the time as town, and how he wanted to live past N1 for a change. since then he has been trying some self control stuff in the games i have been in with him and trying to lower his d1 activity as town to try and survive later into the game. the thing with HF is....he is HF. guy can't help himself, he will start spamming and giving endless reads at some point. maybe it is d2, maybe it is n1, maybe it will be when someone says the dumbest thing he has ever read. he will do it at some point, read him then. if he doesn't after a good while, then shoot or lynch him. pretty simple. don't understand why you're butthurt about denial of information when you intentionally denied GB information for hours. and why do you care if i put pressure on him in the meantime so you goobers don't forget about him later, hm? again, if you can legitimately say we're playing the game the same, then you have a right to speak because it is a worthless line to pursue and it is hardly pressure. as was your post unless you actually think i'm scum for it so why exactly are you trolling around looking for a fight?
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On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now.
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On June 17 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:36 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:28 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:23 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:12 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:05 Holyflare wrote:
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i don't see why you're so pissed at me for no reason? either i start playing or i don't i'm still waiting for the semblance of a contribution from you this game ^^ for someone who keeps being standoffish when people push her for responses, you sure are quick to notice a kettle. read hf's filter. read mine. then say we're the same i was talking with HF in some obs QT and he was going on about how he was tired of dying N1 all the time as town, and how he wanted to live past N1 for a change. since then he has been trying some self control stuff in the games i have been in with him and trying to lower his d1 activity as town to try and survive later into the game. the thing with HF is....he is HF. guy can't help himself, he will start spamming and giving endless reads at some point. maybe it is d2, maybe it is n1, maybe it will be when someone says the dumbest thing he has ever read. he will do it at some point, read him then. if he doesn't after a good while, then shoot or lynch him. pretty simple. don't understand why you're butthurt about denial of information when you intentionally denied GB information for hours. and why do you care if i put pressure on him in the meantime so you goobers don't forget about him later, hm? again, if you can legitimately say we're playing the game the same, then you have a right to speak because it is a worthless line to pursue and it is hardly pressure. as was your post unless you actually think i'm scum for it so why exactly are you trolling around looking for a fight? ???
you're usually happy. your posts are angrier. TONE READ (ZING)
GOTEM BOYZ
choppa 4 reporting.
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On June 17 2015 11:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:24 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:21 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:11 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 11:06 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
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Qualifying something as a tone read isn't a reason. It's a cop out.
For anyone reading this, take a look at the following.
Stuff like this
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Is a great example of responsibility deflection. This is what scum do when they want to give the appearance of having reads but do not want to entrench themselves in any one position because they don't want to get held accountable for them. There's no reason rsoultin here needs to make any sort of statement on LS, but even so why qualify it like this?
Let's say rsoultin actually thinks LS is town. This is not actually a reason to believe LS is town. All she is saying is that I think he's town now because other people think he's town, and providing a reason for not having a reason. "I think he's town but don't hold me to that cause I'm bad at reading him! hahaa but it's okay cause other people think he's town, right?"
The last part is a great way for rsoultin to get further thread sentiment about LS. It doesn't make sense from a town perspective to say something like this because townies will make the read for themselves and will only qualify what other people say when necessary. Here it just feels forced.
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and this
Yes, let's continue paraphrasing useless shit in an attempt to appear more townie. Repeating yourself by paraphrase is probably the worst way I've ever seen someone try to fake providing reads. You're digging yourself deeper every time you post. aw cutie, you're not reading me at all if you think i don't have reads -amused- narratives bore me. when you're done writing fairytales, let me know when you're done copping out I might consider unvoting you. however, you can just ask LS how hard I will tunnel you to death. And right now I can guarantee you will flip red once I'm done. Can you not tunnel for a minute and give thoughts on other players? nope give me a good reason we shouldn't lynch rsoultin. You could also comment on the post I just made on her motivations as well. Do you think she has a town motivation this game? What makes you think yes/no? respeeeeectfully instead of calling you what i normally would do you have the faintest clue who you're even dealing with? do you know how i post? have you read all of my filter/posts? i highly doubt it. you seem intelligent enough to actually understand the meaning behind words, despite your behavior thus far and once you realize how blindingly wrong you are, kindly comment on someone who actually has a chance in hell of being scum ^^ thanks you. I don't need to go further. You don't qualify any of your posts with reasons, so why should I bother? I have read your entire filter despite your pathetic attempts to paint me as not reading. Here's a hint: when you try to fake being angry at someone for not reading, perhaps you should point out exactly what they missed. Too bad there was nothing to miss because my posts were literal quotes of yours. How could I have missed something when there wasn't anything to miss? It's like literally the dumbest cop out ever. I point out how you have not qualified your reads with reasons and the response is literally "nuh uh you're not reading here's my reason" with a quote or paraphrase of the thing I pointed out in the first place. It's like you want us to go in circles instead of progressing anywhere--I wonder which side wants to do that, hmm? can you tell me how my reason was not a reason, wbg? i'm on the edge of my seat a "toneread" is not a reason. it's like saying "I think he is town because he talks like town". What the hell does that even mean did i or did i not EXPLAIN my toneread, which is QUALIFYING it? what to you is not a reason about saying that he posts more fluidly as town than scum?
let's see examples, lady.
"fluidly" is a nice adjective and all, but to me it's another bullshit word just like "tone-read". You didn't explain it because saying something is a tone read and then saying he is talking fluidly is not an indicator of alignment, despite what you may now be asserting is.
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On June 17 2015 11:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:04 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:02 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 11:00 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote:
i'm not masons with ksc hf you are making me really want to push you day 1, despite knowing how unlikely that lynch would be well I know one alignment that wants to lynch confirmed town ^^ if you're gonna call me scum you better start early and directly, hf or you could give a rat's ass and play the game either or i don't see why you're so pissed at me for no reason? either i start playing or i don't
dat ritoky mindmeld though
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On June 17 2015 11:42 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:36 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:28 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:23 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:12 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote:
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i'm still waiting for the semblance of a contribution from you this game ^^ for someone who keeps being standoffish when people push her for responses, you sure are quick to notice a kettle. read hf's filter. read mine. then say we're the same i was talking with HF in some obs QT and he was going on about how he was tired of dying N1 all the time as town, and how he wanted to live past N1 for a change. since then he has been trying some self control stuff in the games i have been in with him and trying to lower his d1 activity as town to try and survive later into the game. the thing with HF is....he is HF. guy can't help himself, he will start spamming and giving endless reads at some point. maybe it is d2, maybe it is n1, maybe it will be when someone says the dumbest thing he has ever read. he will do it at some point, read him then. if he doesn't after a good while, then shoot or lynch him. pretty simple. don't understand why you're butthurt about denial of information when you intentionally denied GB information for hours. and why do you care if i put pressure on him in the meantime so you goobers don't forget about him later, hm? again, if you can legitimately say we're playing the game the same, then you have a right to speak because it is a worthless line to pursue and it is hardly pressure. as was your post unless you actually think i'm scum for it so why exactly are you trolling around looking for a fight? ??? you're usually happy. your posts are angrier. TONE READ (ZING) GOTEM BOYZ choppa 4 reporting.
lol bullshit
you played with me in mafia down under
you played with me in carol
try again
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On June 17 2015 11:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now. do not make me quote all the posts from my filter giving opinions it will piss me off and make you look the fool
so instead of putting in more effort to explain yourself you're going to continue rehashing your own posts which you already made in an attempt to do what exactly?
I've already told you that I've read your filter and I've certainly demonstrated it, yet you still want to go in circles
That's so townie, man! /s
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On June 17 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
yo bugs you say you read multiple ls games to get a feel for his posts last game so why you not doing it here for this push?
most of my time so far has been occupied by either playing dota or reading/responding to posts that are happening in this game
While I like meta it falls maybe third or fourth down the list of things that are important in finding scum. Also I do intend to look at her past games, just maybe not tonight as it tends to take me quite a while and I'm probably going to go to sleep soon
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On June 17 2015 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
yo bugs you say you read multiple ls games to get a feel for his posts last game so why you not doing it here for this push? most of my time so far has been occupied by either playing dota or reading/responding to posts that are happening in this game While I like meta it falls maybe third or fourth down the list of things that are important in finding scum. Also I do intend to look at her past games, just maybe not tonight as it tends to take me quite a while and I'm probably going to go to sleep soon
well if i say that she does posts like that in all her games does that make your entire game redundant so far?
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On June 17 2015 11:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
yo bugs you say you read multiple ls games to get a feel for his posts last game so why you not doing it here for this push? most of my time so far has been occupied by either playing dota or reading/responding to posts that are happening in this game While I like meta it falls maybe third or fourth down the list of things that are important in finding scum. Also I do intend to look at her past games, just maybe not tonight as it tends to take me quite a while and I'm probably going to go to sleep soon well if i say that she does posts like that in all her games does that make your entire game redundant so far?
no, because if all her games include her scum games doesn't that mean it's alignment null?
good god how do you people make these posts
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yes, thanks for giving me a filter and putting the onus on me to explain YOUR read.
that's great fucking town motivation right there.
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On June 17 2015 11:43 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:42 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now. do not make me quote all the posts from my filter giving opinions it will piss me off and make you look the fool so instead of putting in more effort to explain yourself you're going to continue rehashing your own posts which you already made in an attempt to do what exactly? I've already told you that I've read your filter and I've certainly demonstrated it, yet you still want to go in circlesThat's so townie, man! /s
I KNOW YOU DIDN'T IF YOU CAN SAY I HAVE NO READS OR SUBSTANTIATED OPINIONS!!!
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On June 17 2015 11:47 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
yo bugs you say you read multiple ls games to get a feel for his posts last game so why you not doing it here for this push? most of my time so far has been occupied by either playing dota or reading/responding to posts that are happening in this game While I like meta it falls maybe third or fourth down the list of things that are important in finding scum. Also I do intend to look at her past games, just maybe not tonight as it tends to take me quite a while and I'm probably going to go to sleep soon well if i say that she does posts like that in all her games does that make your entire game redundant so far? no, because if all her games include her scum games doesn't that mean it's alignment null? good god how do you people make these posts
and if it's alignment null then your entire push is worthless? lol
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On June 17 2015 11:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
yes, thanks for giving me a filter and putting the onus on me to explain YOUR read.
that's great fucking town motivation right there.
^^ i'm done with you
you don't have the motivation to check your own read despite literally everyone else in the thread thinking you're full of it. even ritoky isn't willing to commit to a scumread on me
you can't be assed to make reads on anyone else without being prodded multiple times, and even then only gave a read on damdred which you were ASKED FOR
how's that for town motivation ^^
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Probs town
- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null
- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia
- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
- boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred
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"you scummy for making read like this"
"nah im not i do it a lot"
"you scummy for not justifying it"
"I did in my own way"
"you scummy for not giving proper read"
"read my other games"
"you scummy! why nobody think she scummy?"
"why didnt you read her games?"
"dota"
"she's scummy!"
-wbg 2015
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On June 17 2015 11:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:47 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
yo bugs you say you read multiple ls games to get a feel for his posts last game so why you not doing it here for this push? most of my time so far has been occupied by either playing dota or reading/responding to posts that are happening in this game While I like meta it falls maybe third or fourth down the list of things that are important in finding scum. Also I do intend to look at her past games, just maybe not tonight as it tends to take me quite a while and I'm probably going to go to sleep soon well if i say that she does posts like that in all her games does that make your entire game redundant so far? no, because if all her games include her scum games doesn't that mean it's alignment null? good god how do you people make these posts and if it's alignment null then your entire push is worthless? lol
No, because if you are alluding to her posting style being the same in all her games then obviously you are missing my point
my point is not that her posting style is scummy, which honestly makes no sense whatsoever and her saying that about damdred in the opposite sense is actually ironically one of the reasons I am calling her scum. This is not about tone or post style, it's about motivation. Just look at how she reacts to me pressuring her. First, she says I am not reading and regurgitates the same post I just quoted in order to "show" that I am not reading. When I push further to try to get her to explain her toneread she responds with "he's posting fluidly" which is incredibly underwhelming and not a good enough reason to read someone as town. It's not a reason at all, frankly. Townies have specific reasons for having specific reads, and this is not one of them.
Then if you look at her response just now when I asked for examples, she gives me an entire filter without doing any of the legwork herself. It's like the lowest effort a player can make, and she has failed to qualify her read with specific examples. Any townie who believes in their own meta read will go and find examples because that's what they use to qualify reads. Instead I am given an entire game thread link to mini mafia 2....
Since when is the onus on me to explain the supposed toneread that my #1 suspect has??
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you don't have to bus each other you know
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On June 17 2015 11:40 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird. So let me get this straight. You want me to provide you reasons, and opinions. Which I certainly will, but right now I'm just not that interested in throwing around reads on people because it's a bit too early. This all is fine. You, however, don't find it odd that rsoultin is NOT doing exactly what you want me to do? Why the double standard here? If I am to take what you said at face value you seem to want to ignore rsoultin, but why? What difference does it make waiting it out? People said the same shit about LS last game and he flipped scum day 1. She hasn't contributed anything and in her responses to me and ritoky it certainly doesn't seem like she is going to contribute anything any time soon. That's not indicative of her being town and to me that makes her the best lynch right now.
Because as I said I don't care for her and I want to form a read on you so I can know if I can work with you or not.
Your reads were good last game. Help me identify townies?
And stop saying I'm bad when you have no fucking grasp of what I'm talking about. I don't get why you cannot NOT be a prick. Geez.
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