EPTHe is objectively a better lynch
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He is objectively a better lynch | ||
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On June 25 2015 05:21 Holyflare wrote: HAH he's lynching me for no reason other than information hahahahaha hahahahahahahaha not even because of a red check or anything because my filter is big LOL :D :D :D :D You know I'm talking about lynching you over mig Lololololol your attempt to look town martyr while trying to discredit me is amusing | ||
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That's my final answer and I've NEVER shut it down | ||
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You just questioned me about him but NEVER pushed him | ||
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On June 25 2015 05:33 ruXxar wrote: I don't think this is a good reason at all. If he has a big filter and is more active that means he's more likely to expose his mafia friends as time passes by, whereas we have nothing to gain from keeping mig alive. You will know I had a red check if we kill Holyflare You won't know if I had one if we kill mig Since some people are STILL thinking I COULD be fake claiming (lmfao), this is the best option here HF will also shitfight me until one of us die Also, he is a good player and if he dies today he won't be aiding his team with the night kill | ||
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I see a red check on me and I see an indirect red check on someone else Will I doubt the Claimer or will I convince the claimer I'm not scum? I am town I see an indirect red check on me and a direct check on someone else Will I doubt the claimer or convince I am not scum because those reasons are wifom and will suggest claimer to lynch the red target? Conclusion: there is no world where they aren't both Mafia together IMO | ||
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"GB is arguing that HF should be lynched first because he needs Mig to be lynched first" 10/10 I'll get out before I start shit fighting with you. I have classes anyway, so, there's that. Now, townies, listen: CONSOLIDATE on HF. DO NOT GIVE SPACE TO MAFIA SO THEY CAN SHENANNIE ONTO WHOEVER THEY WANT. Bye | ||
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You're both confirmed Mafia. | ||
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Gj | ||
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DELETE Also, I've read criticism about my play and fakeclaims. I will talk about it just one more time. I didn't play optimally, yes. I've played badly in thread, probably yes. But I played optimally as town (convinced Mafia I wasn't blue/checked the right people - the green check on LS should be above any speculation on him, and the red check on HF talks about itself) The thing is that people called me Mafia for being bad/illogical. But being bad/illogical doesn't make anyone scum. My reads were all over the thread, and I changed stories accordingly to new things dropped in thread and NOT to fit thread sentiment. It's very hard for Mafia to do what I did with every information dropped in thread. Only Holyflare can be this carefree while posting as scum. Activity IS a town trait, and being carefree IS a general town trait. Holyflare is just the exception to the rule. Now, about fake claims: my fake claim on Mig was only revealed day2. Then I fake claim red check on Rsoultin and quickly withdrew. It means I fake claimed checks TWICE, not EVERYTIME as people are saying. Maybe claiming a red check on Rsoultin was silly but I stand to my point that the fake check on Mig was one of the best moves I will ever see in TL Mafia (yes, ego). But listen: no Mafia will fake claim a RED check. It's suicidal. They will go for the easy check. Especially me. I could have claimed being roleblocked or green checked Breshke before he died. Safest play. How would I know Holyflare is Miller if I was Mafia? But the clearest thing was the reaction from Holyflare and Mig. They BOTH doubted the claim TOGETHER. It doesn't make sense. See, if you're town and you see two red checks (one is indirect, but whatever) and one is on you, you may assume you're miller (or the indirect check is wifom) and you go against the other guy and try to defend yourself. If you're nafia and see a red check on a green, you go against that green too. The only way those two people go against the cop is when they are BOTH MAFIA TOGETHER. But people preferred to lynch me. I would blame me for being lynched day2, maybe even day1 (although I find stupid lynching big filters day), but day3 lynch is totally town's fault. | ||
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On July 04 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote: there are many players who think their style is ok or good, and it just isn't. when you're a cop with a redcheck and you get lynched, you're doing/have done something horribly, horribly wrong (HF being fantastic not withstanding) when you know who the entire scumteam is and why and you get lynched, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong (Onegu). Especially Onegu's reaction to the post-game is all wrong, his reaction shouldn't be "why didn't you listen to me scrubs" but "how can I be so fucking shit tier that I got lynched today" Also I mentioned this earlier too, but especially this. HF literally had to be mafia from Onegu's POV. That's not skill, that's just that you're the scrub mafia decided they could lynch (and mafia were right) I know I didn't play optimally but I don't see how my play is scummy. Maybe you could show me what I did that was terribly, terribly wrong. Damdred had me as town, Rsoultin had me as town. Are they average or good for realising that? People that mislynched me, are they bad or average? It's easy to see it objectively and make this rule "if you claimed cop and had a red check, AND got lynched, you did something terribly wrong", but looking at circumstances, it doesn't work this way - in other words, I was mislynched because town didn't consolidate. Just look at he day3 vote count. | ||
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On July 04 2015 14:30 Holyflare wrote: yeh that qt post was retarded gb since if i was town of course i'm going to attack you for fake caiming a red check on me anyway so of course i'm going to doubt the claim and if mig ends up being mafia and being lynched with a fake claim ready he's going to attack your claim too regardless of my alignment since it would set up a further mislynch You know that this isn't what would happen because there could be a miller in the game and I faked a red check on Rsoultin and the reaction she had wasn't this one, so no | ||
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On July 04 2015 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote: I mean normally I don't blame people for getting lynched but you almost got lynched twice and then actually did get lynched the third time...even though you were actually a blue and you actually had a red check. As I said to my shadow I didn't fear anyone in this game and it's really obvious no one on my team really feared you either given how easily you were set up for lynch 3 times in a row. Ordinarily I might agree that town did something dumb but given how little credence you had (and your own posts did not help at all) I don't blame people for wanting to lynch you. Well, I never said I played optimally. I didn't. But what I'm arguing is this: does being illogical makes someone Mafia? You can have little trust in my reads. But those change of reads didn't make me Mafia. | ||
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On July 04 2015 20:49 Blazinghand wrote: If you gotta go to that argument you're in a bad way. It's like how if you get into a long debate and suddenly find yourself saying "well, can we really know anything? is there really such a thing as facts?" -- yeah, sure, you're I guess not technically incorrect, but if this is the only argument you can use to win the debate, clearly you're in a bad place. This is not what I'm saying at all. The nature of what I'm arguing is very different. I'm basically asking "what makes someone Mafia?", and you're saying that I'm asking "how can we possibly know that someone is actually Mafia?" A lot of people have different tools to catch Mafia by saying Mafia are usually passive, inactive, bla bla bla, and I'm asking if being illogical is one of the traits. Is it? | ||
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On July 04 2015 20:58 marvellosity wrote: it's because your play is so habitually all over the place and nonsensical. for example you faking redchecks on people. you might think it's worth it for these awesome reactions it gets, but hey, that's part of the reason you got lynched. If you play like you have ADHD then you get your rewards for it. This isn't to say I think you're a bad player, I think you're fairly sharp and intuitive. you just use your tools in a very poor way. I can understand this. I already admitted the fake red check on Rsoultin and my ADHD play (lol I liked this one) didn't help. But I also think, marv, that that kind of play is more likely coming from town than from Mafia. It's not a GOOD play, but it isn't scummy IMO. For example, I think that Mafia would never come day3 saying they DIDN'T get roleblocked and that they DID have a red check instead of an obvious green one. Anyway, I agree that my gameplay needs to be polished. Thank you  | ||
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On July 05 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote: lol not with you xP come play voice mafia with us on ts ^^ the gang's all here! Give me half an hour | ||
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