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Damdred have you gave any reasoning for any of your reads yet other than meta? You did a hell of a lot of it last game.
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On June 17 2015 09:24 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:19 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:wat. saying "I imagine if he rolled scum he'll be more careful this game" is not me saying he is town. It literally means what it says, if he rolled scum again he's going to be wary of me because I fucking nailed him last game. You did read it backwards because you made a case and responded to someting LS said and then quoted the nydus post which came after While it's nice that you are so confident, you should consider looking at perspective. I read that post because it was at the top of the latest page at the time. I was reading that page for new posts as I went down and when LS asked me about Onegu I went back and read from the beginning, my first proper read of the game. I didn't find anything super weird aside from a couple posts from Nydus (which is why I asked whether he is a smurf after looking at his profile) and then subsequently that post I marked as "wtf". It's pretty natural for me to have several tabs open with one at the latest page and a couple others either on filters or at the current point in the thread where I'm reading/rereading. this is early d1 so bringing up points about my "logic" being bad and how you won't talk to me all game comes across poorly. Your posting has been scummy and i've highlighted it I don't particularly care what you think, because you've so far demonstrated that your opinions are not useful. Therefore, I am going to ignore you, and if you want that to change you should probably consider working with me instead of flailing around and being dumb. What you think is alignment-indicative is not, and never will be, so unless your mentality changes I have nothing to gain from talking to you. What was weird about my post? You kept asking if I was a smurf and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you mentioning anything about my content. Taking Nydus out of the town list for this post
Didn't you just mod a game where I was scum? What?
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On June 17 2015 09:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:26 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 09:24 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 09:19 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:wat. saying "I imagine if he rolled scum he'll be more careful this game" is not me saying he is town. It literally means what it says, if he rolled scum again he's going to be wary of me because I fucking nailed him last game. You did read it backwards because you made a case and responded to someting LS said and then quoted the nydus post which came after While it's nice that you are so confident, you should consider looking at perspective. I read that post because it was at the top of the latest page at the time. I was reading that page for new posts as I went down and when LS asked me about Onegu I went back and read from the beginning, my first proper read of the game. I didn't find anything super weird aside from a couple posts from Nydus (which is why I asked whether he is a smurf after looking at his profile) and then subsequently that post I marked as "wtf". It's pretty natural for me to have several tabs open with one at the latest page and a couple others either on filters or at the current point in the thread where I'm reading/rereading. this is early d1 so bringing up points about my "logic" being bad and how you won't talk to me all game comes across poorly. Your posting has been scummy and i've highlighted it I don't particularly care what you think, because you've so far demonstrated that your opinions are not useful. Therefore, I am going to ignore you, and if you want that to change you should probably consider working with me instead of flailing around and being dumb. What you think is alignment-indicative is not, and never will be, so unless your mentality changes I have nothing to gain from talking to you. What was weird about my post? You kept asking if I was a smurf and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you mentioning anything about my content. Taking Nydus out of the town list for this post Didn't you just mod a game where I was scum? What? Yes So?
Because I'm pretty obviously town in comparison...
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On June 17 2015 10:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 10:22 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 09:31 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 09:26 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 09:24 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 09:19 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:wat. saying "I imagine if he rolled scum he'll be more careful this game" is not me saying he is town. It literally means what it says, if he rolled scum again he's going to be wary of me because I fucking nailed him last game. You did read it backwards because you made a case and responded to someting LS said and then quoted the nydus post which came after While it's nice that you are so confident, you should consider looking at perspective. I read that post because it was at the top of the latest page at the time. I was reading that page for new posts as I went down and when LS asked me about Onegu I went back and read from the beginning, my first proper read of the game. I didn't find anything super weird aside from a couple posts from Nydus (which is why I asked whether he is a smurf after looking at his profile) and then subsequently that post I marked as "wtf". It's pretty natural for me to have several tabs open with one at the latest page and a couple others either on filters or at the current point in the thread where I'm reading/rereading. this is early d1 so bringing up points about my "logic" being bad and how you won't talk to me all game comes across poorly. Your posting has been scummy and i've highlighted it I don't particularly care what you think, because you've so far demonstrated that your opinions are not useful. Therefore, I am going to ignore you, and if you want that to change you should probably consider working with me instead of flailing around and being dumb. What you think is alignment-indicative is not, and never will be, so unless your mentality changes I have nothing to gain from talking to you. What was weird about my post? You kept asking if I was a smurf and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you mentioning anything about my content. Taking Nydus out of the town list for this post Didn't you just mod a game where I was scum? What? Yes So? Because I'm pretty obviously town in comparison... well now you're boring me 
I just think I'm playing very differently compared to my previous game and I was scum.... Even if I were scum I think my play has markably improved to deserve strong town reads for anyone who was in last game with me.
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On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
- boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred
>.< I actually played a round of don't start and found like 10 more pages of posts. I promise to catch up with attention to detail after my SO goes to sleep. For now, I've just skimmed the posts.
On June 17 2015 10:30 rsoultin wrote:
yes, well
do you just not believe me when i said gb doesn't read his own games?
I missed that sorry.
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One thing that sticks out to me is that holyflare seems to be playing really strangely if he is scum. Kind of feels like a suicidal "obviously scummy" playstyle if he's scum. I haven't played with him ever so maybe I'm just reading it wrong but I feel like he's more likely to be town. Kind of annoying though. I heard he's a veteran and seems like he's not doing much. The main reason I signed up for this was because I saw him sign up -.-
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I feel the same way about damdred. It sucks because I can't feel like I can substantiate it very well other than saying that he feels hella different than when I just played with him and he was town.
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On June 17 2015 12:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:19 NydusHerMain wrote:
One thing that sticks out to me is that holyflare seems to be playing really strangely if he is scum. Kind of feels like a suicidal "obviously scummy" playstyle if he's scum. I haven't played with him ever so maybe I'm just reading it wrong but I feel like he's more likely to be town. Kind of annoying though. I heard he's a veteran and seems like he's not doing much. The main reason I signed up for this was because I saw him sign up -.- -1 townpoint for parroting me
Umm I hadn't even read your read on holyflare. How about a +1 townpoint for coming from the same mindset as me unless you're scum?
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On June 17 2015 12:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:33 NydusHerMain wrote:I feel the same way about damdred. It sucks because I can't feel like I can substantiate it very well other than saying that he feels hella different than when I just played with him and he was town. haha dude she's saying that damdred is town and you're saying he's mafia :D
Are you serious? Okay that's good then because I wanted to say she was town since we "had the same read" but I wanted to read her filter first before making a conclusion because I didn't know how well her reads matched up with mine. This is why I shouldn't post at night but I'm going to do it anyways -.-
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On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
- boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred
How do you have onegu as scum for that reason? It sounds like you're saying that he was scum read for not claiming VT so he didn't need to claim VT? So why shouldn't he claim VT if he's being scumread in other games for not claiming it?
Also, if you think he prefers playing scum, don't you think he'd be posting a bit more than just "gosh darnit I'm VT" ?
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On June 17 2015 12:45 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame we have to come to this kind of discussion, really. Maybe you can have good reads and others don't, but your inability to work with people overwhelms any good town trait you may have, bugs. I'm not unwilling to work with you. I just don't want to take your approach because I disagree with it. What exactly do you think is the benefit of putting forth so many reads less than 5 hours into the game?
Probably useless because they keep changing every minute. It just looks towny and I feel like GB might be mafia trying to blend into town... Same way I feel about damdred. Is it wrong of me to be scum reading some of the more active posters? I feel like I should be town reading them for being so open with their thoughts. zzzz lots to learn.
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@GB
How strongly do you actually believe in your reads when you say something like "probably town" or "probably mafia?" I think I might just be getting thrown off by your choice of wording.
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I'm reading rsoultin's tone as town but I'll reread her filter... Maybe a little biased when I do since I'm expecting her to be scummy now but we'll see.
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On June 17 2015 13:11 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, trust the tone read rsoultin gives on damdred and me
I've been discussing games with her for a long while and he does that every time. And she does it correctly.
Like, I told her I was freezingfoot last game and she said: you're scum right? you don't feel like town gb
I trust her tone reads as genuine
What is rubbing me the wrong way is the shitfight she entered and the refusal to get off of it. I agree the shitfight is not helping town but I don't think it is alignment indicative. Even before they interacted i knew her and bugs would not get along no matter their alignment unless they were mafia together. That is like the only thing I got out of that shitfight the fact that they i think they can not be mafia together. But yeah I don't think you should judge them on the shitfight because it is jsut their personalities and yeah its boring as fuck but it is because they are both stubborn. They both seem likely town to me now another reason the shitfight is boring as hell. GB why are you sheeping HF? Wheres the townread come from you might have said but i missed it.
I was kind of weirded out by that too at first but I think he was just saying that as a joke. He said he was going to sheep HF if he liked the read meaning if he also thinks someone is scum, he'll vote with HF. That's not really saying he's just going to blindly follow HF, it's more like saying "I'll vote on someone if I think he's scum" just saying it in a weird way. I don't think that necessarily implies that he thinks HF is town (even though it kind of feels like it). WHO KNOWS he's probably asleep and we won't find out for another 8 hours.
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I ignored it because I don't even get boxer's joke...
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On June 17 2015 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 13:22 NydusHerMain wrote:
I ignored it because I don't even get boxer's joke... Understanding his joke doesn't matter for the read I gave. Why being worried with a weak read on Onegu but not on a possible weak read on boxerfred?
The onegu read just sounded contradictory to me. The boxer read just looked like a "he made a joke and now he's lurking so he's scum" read.
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I mean if we want to get really picky, if he really is from Germany like it says on his TL profile thing, it would've been 4am when he made the joke so maybe he just wanted to get a "hello" post in before he went to sleep.
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On that note Ritoky, just a random thought but if RS flips scum, I think that Damdred is spewed town. Just the way she said that she had a town read on Damdred as well as having a town read on LS reinforced by Damdred's townread on LS. It feels like she's pinging her mafia partner too hard if they're scum together. <-- probably horrible logic
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On June 17 2015 13:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 13:34 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 13:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 13:26 Holyflare wrote:
yes but the fact the game started without him being replaced means he had to have confirmed his pm in like the last 30 mins before the game started and then just did nothing
... lol that's a good point, i didn't think about the confirmation timing and you say i did nothing with my vote -.- 3 Bill Murray + Show Spoiler +4 ritoky - probably not just uneasy buddy wordz 5 ShoCkeyy - maybe not, seems kind of new but not read the database of 5 games or w/e 6 Onegu 10 Fidei86 12 Mig + Show Spoiler +13 GlowingBear - hahahahaha not read anything he wrote <3 14 LightningStrike - aprehensive, probably not 16 VayneAuthority 17 boxerfred super duper awesome lazy would lynch list of lazyness, GO! hey >> not a mind reader lol nh take fidei off otherwise...ignoring your spoilered ones presently...the unspoilered ones are fine with me otherwise so, putting this out here on the chance that oneg is being especially lazy as town...if you give me nothing to read you by i'll assume this is the scum game you chose to break meta with <3
You made a point in saying that the majority of your reads are based on meta. If Onegu, according to your meta read, is town when he's inactive (because he supposedly doesn't like playing as town), why would this be the game where you break your meta read on him now when you're holding onto your metareads on other people?
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Why am I reading everyone who I played last game with as at least leaning scummy? LOL. Did you all trade accounts with your mothers?
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