EPT-shrugs- get your point but I don't always present things completely honestly either. The push i'm you at the start of the.game for example. Needed you playing xP
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
-shrugs- get your point but I don't always present things completely honestly either. The push i'm you at the start of the.game for example. Needed you playing xP | ||
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Holyflare
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NydusHerMain
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NydusHerMain
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Holyflare
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On June 25 2015 02:32 NydusHerMain wrote: Holyflare you're probably dying and I do believe GB's claim. You made a case against GB but it's pretty obvious if he's mafia since you're gonna flip VT if he is so here's something I want from you. Let's say that GB is the real cop and you're miller, who's the mafia team? Town sentiment right now seems like they believe you're mafia with mig, shockey is partners with you, +1 so in the case that you're actually town and GB is still real, who do you think is scum? i've most definitely answered this twice, wtf? | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Town sentiment right now seems like they believe you're mafia with mig, shockey is partners with you, +1 so in the case that you're actually town and GB is still real, who do you think is scum? I am also not sure how anyone has come to this conclusion by the way. I don't know why me and mig are automatically linked and I have no idea how shockeyy is thrown into the mix since what I wrote in my post was pretty cool about him (that he was writing hidden messages in url's in his posts talking about people being mafia if x happened etc) | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Eh, but I can see the lynch me argument now so we're not still here in mylo | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
(still waiting on whether or not role cops show millers) | ||
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rsoultin
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Holyflare
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On June 21 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote: I think that's exactly what HF wants you to think. Tell me why he would do that as town. His gameplay in the beginning of the game was "I won't be active to survive n1", yet he fake claims in a way that if mafia sees it, he dies night1? into account. He thought I was trying to survive n1 so it's perfectly acceptable to think I may have been a role, he's also trying to spread suspicion of me on a night where only 1 kp happened so he doesn't even know if i got protected or not so it looks like tmi that i wasn't | ||
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NydusHerMain
Canada492 Posts
On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote: why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least You looked bored  so I gave a quick post before reading | ||
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Onegu
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Holyflare
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
You seem to be gungho about getting lynched to prove GB's alignment, but since there's a chance that you're VT, then you must agree that going for the sure or less worse option is better. Look at it from town perspective. Right now you are more beneficial to us than mig. Lynching you just to prove a point is not acceptable. I'll be outlining scenarios for GB being both mafia and DT #1 GB is DT and telling the truth: + Show Spoiler + If you believe that GB is telling the truth, then you have no reason to doubt anything of what he said. This means that GB: - Checked LS, got green - Checked HF, got red - Did *NOT* get roleblocked. So we have to make some assumptions here: - Chance that there is a framer in the game + the framer framing HF : very low. - Chance that HF is miller : low However there is still a chance. GB also claimed a false greencheck on mig. These are the scenarios related to mig: - Chance that mig is mafia and thought the claim was false : likely + Show Spoiler + Mafia keep GB alive - Chance that mig is godfather and thought the claim was true : low + Show Spoiler + In this case they would definitely kill GB, so it's unlikely this happened. There's no scenarios here where GB lives and Mig isn't mafia, unless I missed something. If you believe GB's claim, then lynching mig is absolutely the right choice. Right now this is the world I believe in, and that is why my vote rests on mig for the moment. However, I'll also post up a scenario next of where GB could be mafia, but there's more variables involved so it'll take a little while to put together. | ||
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Holyflare
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a million possibilities and i don't really see why you believe in a world where gb is telling the truth after everything i've outlined? | ||
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Holyflare
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Rather than looking at all the millions of possibilities that rely on complete wifom and sillyness, why don't we evaluate people's actual play in the game? talk to me about damdred, did you read my post? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
I just played a game with him where he was lurking hardcore, so I won't judge him based on his activity. I'll respond to your points about damdred: - Early town reads: + Show Spoiler + I really don't know where he gets this from. There's no reasoning, so I'll have to assume it's all based on meta. Maybe damdred knows people well enough to make that call, I don't know. I've heard that judging people from their first posts is actually not as inaccurate as you may think, but I have a hard time believing that. I'll have to assume that his list is very inaccurate. - Crazy defenses of people. + Show Spoiler + I saw damdred do this as town in his last game, and he was right. However I was very suspicious of him doing so and I still think it's a crapshoot. I generally dislike people calling others 100% town and defending them. Let people defend themselves so that you can actually extract information from them. If you put yourself in the line of fire then you make it seem like you have ulterior motives. This is not a point in his favor My own judgement on damdred: He does seem a little wishy washy, and doesn't justify most of his call outs. I'm also not sure how he went from this: On June 22 2015 05:40 Damdred wrote: Mig is mafia and we should lynch Mig To this: On June 22 2015 06:13 Damdred wrote: ok GB and Mig are off the table today Get on yamato. In just 2 pages. I really wish he would qualify his reads more. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Then we are lynching Mig Too late to switch targets. Doing shenanigans here is absolutely dangerous. Lynch HF first, then lynch Mig | ||
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