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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 20:21 GMT
#3521
On June 24 2015 05:19 Fidei86 wrote:
GB has claimed cop and has says he had a red check on you. So either you're Miller, you're Mafia or he's lying. Which do you think it is?



well that's what my big post is about and it's irrelevant since you lynch me to confirm gb's alignment anyway, either miller and he's probably cop or vt and he's mafia
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 23 2015 20:23 GMT
#3522
It's obviously not irrelevant, since we haven't lynched anyone yet. Can you link me to your post?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 20:25 GMT
#3523
On June 24 2015 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
I am here by the way, just writing up my posts.




you HAVE to lynch me to learn gb's alignment, this claim could be complete bull shit and he's not doing anything to figure it out
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 23 2015 20:26 GMT
#3524
Okay, okay. I'll wait.

The flame in the mason QT is real ;-)
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#3525
It's not really flame, it's more like disappointment :-(
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#3526
On June 24 2015 05:26 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, okay. I'll wait.

The flame in the mason QT is real ;-)

Do we need water for you or ice to help you out?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 20:31 GMT
#3527
lol why is she disappointed?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 23 2015 20:33 GMT
#3528
The more important question is what you have to say for yourself!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 20:40 GMT
#3529
ah the old "let's wait and see if what he posts is good" i get ya
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 23 2015 20:53 GMT
#3530
In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 23 2015 21:03 GMT
#3531
On June 24 2015 05:53 Fidei86 wrote:
In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response.


-flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though

okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format

1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim.

2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY.

Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 23 2015 21:16 GMT
#3532
If there is a framer, he is never framing Holyflare over a team mate, especially when they DON'T believe my cop claim
I'm adorable.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2015 21:17 GMT
#3533
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 05:53 Fidei86 wrote:
In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response.


-flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though

okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format

1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim.

2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY.

Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check.


Here's how I see it:

This is the order of events:

- GB claims DT.
- GB claims greencheck on mig.
- Night 1 ends.
- GB does *not* die.

This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake.

This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia.
The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first.

Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim.

##Vote mig
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 23 2015 21:22 GMT
#3534
On June 24 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
If there is a framer, he is never framing Holyflare over a team mate, especially when they DON'T believe my cop claim


lol gb

i literally want every last player in this game (though i can't force it, obviously -_-) to answer those questions

1. I think GB's claim is real. I don't think scum fake-claims cop D2 in a 17-player game with either a fake red check on either town OR a scummate. It doesn't make much sense.

2. I'm inclined to believe HF is scum for the previously stated reasons. In brief 1. his declining presence in the thread 2. his reaction to the GB claim D2 3. that he didn't respond until after i said something about his silence.

My final comment is that, because I believe GB's claim, I think his not being killed or roleblocked does point to mig actually being scum. Which makes holyflare's alignment moot, cause either he's town and this is a mislynch or he's scum and begging us to lynch him when the other alternative is...mig.

GB a question for you:

What reactions were you fishing for, faking a red check on me?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 21:39 GMT
#3535
On June 24 2015 06:17 ruXxar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 05:53 Fidei86 wrote:
In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response.


-flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though

okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format

1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim.

2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY.

Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check.


Here's how I see it:

This is the order of events:

- GB claims DT.
- GB claims greencheck on mig.
- Night 1 ends.
- GB does *not* die.

This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake.

This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia.
The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first.

Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim.

##Vote mig


or mafia see's that there is a cop in the game with a green check on mig and that one of their kp got blocked/saved n1 and don't attack him?

or gb is mafia? lol

nobody seeing that possibility either?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 23 2015 21:40 GMT
#3536
On June 24 2015 06:17 ruXxar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 05:53 Fidei86 wrote:
In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response.


-flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though

okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format

1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim.

2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY.

Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check.


Here's how I see it:

This is the order of events:

- GB claims DT.
- GB claims greencheck on mig.
- Night 1 ends.
- GB does *not* die.

This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake.

This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia.
The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first.

Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim.

##Vote mig


lol so you agree with me xP finished the thread yet?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 21:41 GMT
#3537
On June 24 2015 06:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
If there is a framer, he is never framing Holyflare over a team mate, especially when they DON'T believe my cop claim


lol gb

i literally want every last player in this game (though i can't force it, obviously -_-) to answer those questions

1. I think GB's claim is real. I don't think scum fake-claims cop D2 in a 17-player game with either a fake red check on either town OR a scummate. It doesn't make much sense.

2. I'm inclined to believe HF is scum for the previously stated reasons. In brief 1. his declining presence in the thread 2. his reaction to the GB claim D2 3. that he didn't respond until after i said something about his silence.

My final comment is that, because I believe GB's claim, I think his not being killed or roleblocked does point to mig actually being scum. Which makes holyflare's alignment moot, cause either he's town and this is a mislynch or he's scum and begging us to lynch him when the other alternative is...mig.

GB a question for you:

What reactions were you fishing for, faking a red check on me?



1. he was going to die

2. i just started my new job this week which you even mentioned? my responses have all been around when i get home. My reaction to his claim is that he was defending mig's "town agenda" all day when i was yelling at him for not being able to see that it was clearly not the case and it made sense at the time to believe that was the case

anyway all in the post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 21:42 GMT
#3538
it doesn't matter, i'll flip vt or miller and then you make sense of his claim later

really don't think mafia would frame me in this case
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 23 2015 21:43 GMT
#3539
On June 24 2015 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 06:17 ruXxar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 05:53 Fidei86 wrote:
In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response.


-flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though

okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format

1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim.

2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY.

Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check.


Here's how I see it:

This is the order of events:

- GB claims DT.
- GB claims greencheck on mig.
- Night 1 ends.
- GB does *not* die.

This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake.

This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia.
The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first.

Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim.

##Vote mig


or mafia see's that there is a cop in the game with a green check on mig and that one of their kp got blocked/saved n1 and don't attack him?

or gb is mafia? lol

nobody seeing that possibility either?


nope. he'd be rb'd

he's mafia or mig is, most likely

do you think gb is mafia? it's just as important for you if you're town as it is for the rest of us
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 23 2015 21:44 GMT
#3540
probably not no
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