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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 24 2015 05:19 Fidei86 wrote: GB has claimed cop and has says he had a red check on you. So either you're Miller, you're Mafia or he's lying. Which do you think it is? well that's what my big post is about and it's irrelevant since you lynch me to confirm gb's alignment anyway, either miller and he's probably cop or vt and he's mafia | ||
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Fidei86
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 24 2015 04:21 Holyflare wrote: I am here by the way, just writing up my posts.  you HAVE to lynch me to learn gb's alignment, this claim could be complete bull shit and he's not doing anything to figure it out | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
The flame in the mason QT is real ;-) | ||
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Fidei86
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On June 24 2015 05:26 Fidei86 wrote: Okay, okay. I'll wait. The flame in the mason QT is real ;-) Do we need water for you or ice to help you out? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Fidei86
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Holyflare
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Fidei86
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 24 2015 05:53 Fidei86 wrote: In this game I have the absolute luxury of being (1) confirmed town and (2) paired with someone who is clearly much smarter and better at the game and me, who I can sheep without doubt. So, yeah. I can wait for your response. -flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format 1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim. 2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY. Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote: -flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format 1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim. 2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY. Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check. Here's how I see it: This is the order of events: - GB claims DT. - GB claims greencheck on mig. - Night 1 ends. - GB does *not* die. This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake. This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia. The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first. Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim. ##Vote mig | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 24 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote: If there is a framer, he is never framing Holyflare over a team mate, especially when they DON'T believe my cop claim lol gb i literally want every last player in this game (though i can't force it, obviously -_-) to answer those questions 1. I think GB's claim is real. I don't think scum fake-claims cop D2 in a 17-player game with either a fake red check on either town OR a scummate. It doesn't make much sense. 2. I'm inclined to believe HF is scum for the previously stated reasons. In brief 1. his declining presence in the thread 2. his reaction to the GB claim D2 3. that he didn't respond until after i said something about his silence. My final comment is that, because I believe GB's claim, I think his not being killed or roleblocked does point to mig actually being scum. Which makes holyflare's alignment moot, cause either he's town and this is a mislynch or he's scum and begging us to lynch him when the other alternative is...mig. GB a question for you: What reactions were you fishing for, faking a red check on me? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 24 2015 06:17 ruXxar wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote: -flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format 1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim. 2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY. Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check. Here's how I see it: This is the order of events: - GB claims DT. - GB claims greencheck on mig. - Night 1 ends. - GB does *not* die. This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake. This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia. The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first. Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim. ##Vote mig or mafia see's that there is a cop in the game with a green check on mig and that one of their kp got blocked/saved n1 and don't attack him? or gb is mafia? lol nobody seeing that possibility either? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 24 2015 06:17 ruXxar wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 24 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote: -flicks- not true. i'm just opinionated lol >< being confirmed town is hella nice though okay let me break this down for people in an easy-to-follow format 1. We need to determine whether or not we believe Glowingbear's claim now as opposed to later. It's common sense, but if you're the real cop here and we're lynching GB's red check, you claim. 2. We need to determine whether or not we believe the red check is real. What I mean by this, is do we think Holyflare is actually scum? There is the potential for millers and a MAFIA FRAMER in the game, which means that GB's could be real but his results are still false. THE FLIP TO DETERMINE ALIGNMENT IS A BAD IDEA. SCUM CAN BUSS AND CLAIM A FAKE CHECK. THERE COULD BE A FRAMER. STOP BEING LAZY. Everyone needs to address these two questions separate of the check. Here's how I see it: This is the order of events: - GB claims DT. - GB claims greencheck on mig. - Night 1 ends. - GB does *not* die. This means that mig should be confirmed mafia since the mafia would KNOW the greencheck was false and not kill GB since they thought the claim was fake. This makes me think it's better to actually lynch mig first, since we have the strongest evidence for him being mafia. The check on HF could, as you said be either a framer or a miller, so it's better to go with the sure option first. Until someone CC's I'll believe GB's claim. ##Vote mig lol so you agree with me xP finished the thread yet? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 24 2015 06:22 rsoultin wrote: lol gb i literally want every last player in this game (though i can't force it, obviously -_-) to answer those questions 1. I think GB's claim is real. I don't think scum fake-claims cop D2 in a 17-player game with either a fake red check on either town OR a scummate. It doesn't make much sense. 2. I'm inclined to believe HF is scum for the previously stated reasons. In brief 1. his declining presence in the thread 2. his reaction to the GB claim D2 3. that he didn't respond until after i said something about his silence. My final comment is that, because I believe GB's claim, I think his not being killed or roleblocked does point to mig actually being scum. Which makes holyflare's alignment moot, cause either he's town and this is a mislynch or he's scum and begging us to lynch him when the other alternative is...mig. GB a question for you: What reactions were you fishing for, faking a red check on me? 1. he was going to die 2. i just started my new job this week which you even mentioned? my responses have all been around when i get home. My reaction to his claim is that he was defending mig's "town agenda" all day when i was yelling at him for not being able to see that it was clearly not the case and it made sense at the time to believe that was the case anyway all in the post | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
really don't think mafia would frame me in this case | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 24 2015 06:39 Holyflare wrote: or mafia see's that there is a cop in the game with a green check on mig and that one of their kp got blocked/saved n1 and don't attack him? or gb is mafia? lol nobody seeing that possibility either? nope. he'd be rb'd he's mafia or mig is, most likely do you think gb is mafia? it's just as important for you if you're town as it is for the rest of us | ||
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Holyflare
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