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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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Am I speaking swahili hf? Do you get why my read changed? | ||
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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Apparently I am speaking swahili damn it play I guess it's a fair question then | ||
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ruXxar
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I'm doing the short form of this one as well. I see a person with a lot of energy, wanting to participate, but not really interested in solving the game. Tunnels LS pretty much all game for "personal" reasons, without care for the consequences to this game. I couldn't find 1 substantiated read besides the personal attack on LS. Conclusion : Pretty anti-town. Slight scumlean | ||
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rsoultin
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Association made me question my read on gb, yes, but i kept on coming back to thinking he was town based on some tonal things that were absent in his last scumgame where he smurfed It bugged me, though, cause there were a lot of scummy things going on with the votes surrounding the day one lynch. If you read my lists post, what i was doing was taking a look at people's voting pattern vice where their reads stood and basically judging how realistic it was that they ended up voting where they did. i've done this before with a fair amount of success and it doesn't actually require me to know the alignment of the wagon(s) that hasn't/haven't flipped most of those "this voting looks fishy" reads surrounded votes on bf that saved gb...or lack of votes. i still thought my toneread was right because i caught him as scum (which no you can't verify) in the game he just smurfed in solely by looking at his filter for a few minutes using that same toneread hf mentioned game of thrones, however. i wanted to see this shitfight he referred to, cause all the evidence was suggesting my toneread was wrong not only does glowingbear's filter bounce around similarly to how it is here (negating my toneread entirely) but it also did a few things that made me feel uneasy 1) it focused on scummy lurkers, same as here - i've seen gb go after hf and marv d1 fuck the consequences, so he's not one of those let's play d1 safe kind of players; he goes for whoever he's scumreading and doesn't give a shit 2) this reminded me (yes i have a brain like this) that his defense in mafia mini mafia ALSO focused a lot on the WHY would i do this as scum defense rather than how he treated my case on him in carol, which was basically "not gonna read that shit cause it's all wrong since i'm town" <- marv actually criticized the whole "why would scum do this" line of reasoning/defense in obs in mafia mini mafia2 which is why it stuck in my head so basically i'm scumreading him for four reasons if we get right down to it: 1. my initial toneread is demonstrably wrong given game of thrones 2. the lurker thing is eerily similar 3. how he is defending himself this game 4. the fact that the lynch really doesn't make much sense if he's town, which is why i put the legwork in to see if maybe my read was just wrong in the first place does everyone get it now? if you read my filter all of these things were mentioned but probably not explained thoroughly cause i tend to lol...i dunnae post like i think rather than be particularly explanatory | ||
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rsoultin
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On June 21 2015 16:32 Mig wrote: Hi I am here, regarding my reasons for voting bf I was in a tourney and trying to catch up on 30 pages in the last 2 hours on my phone in between hands. I didn't have the time to look up past games for gb. I asked for examples of GB doing the caps lock thing as town (which nobody provided), I asked boxer and gb both questions. Gb answered them and boxer ignored them. I ended up just going with my gut based on boxer's return looking super shady/him promising content and never producing/ignoring me, Gb was at least trying and I would have felt like a retard if I lynched him over a mafia bf and the caps lock thing ended up being bs. It makes literally no sense for me not to vote Gb if I were mafia. 1) If me and Gb were mafia team mates I would have just bussed him for town cred, lynch was super close and I made the first case against him. Why wouldn't I just try to hammer him for even more town cred instead of drawing attention to myself? 2) If Gb were town again why would I vote bf over him? Why draw attention to myself when nobody would even bat an eye if I voted gb? I have been playing a tournament every single day since the game has started. If I were mafia I would be doing whatever I could to fly under the radar. Instead of actually asking questions in the thread 10 min before lynch while on my phone in a tourney I could have just voted gb 6 hours before and afkd So yea you can believe it or not but I voted who I thought was most likely to be mafia simple as that. Anyway I went back and looked through Gb's past games and found these posts when he was mislynched as a townie in hammertime mafia + Show Spoiler + On February 01 2015 11:34 GlowingBear wrote: OH GOD I WAS RIGHT SINCE DAY ONE FUCK YOU ALL I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY WITH YOU HOW COULD YOU FUCKING INSTA VOTE ON LYLO? HOW COULD YOU FUCKING HAMMER PALMAR WITHOUT NO READS AT HIM AND WHILE TWO OF YOUR SCUMREADS (ONEGU AND ME) WERE VOTING HIM WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING LIAN? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH On January 31 2015 01:33 GlowingBear wrote: Dude those were TWO QUOTES. TWO QUOTES. SHOW ME ANY EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOUR LATE CASE ON ME. PALMAR SAYS WHARRGARBL LYNCH TOAD WHAT DO YOU DO? KEEP SILENT. YOU DON'T SAY "HEY LOOK AT MY CASE AND GIVE THOUGHTS" ARGH On January 31 2015 01:33 GlowingBear wrote: Dude those were TWO QUOTES. TWO QUOTES. SHOW ME ANY EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOUR LATE CASE ON ME. PALMAR SAYS WHARRGARBL LYNCH TOAD WHAT DO YOU DO? KEEP SILENT. YOU DON'T SAY "HEY LOOK AT MY CASE AND GIVE THOUGHTS" ARGH So the caps lock thing was bs, and it does look to me like Gb is actually trying to solve the game. He could have kept his read on me as mafia (especially with rsoul accusing me) but instead tried to look at it from the viewpoint that I could be town. I don't really see the mafia motivation behind it. The suspicion of me for all of this makes me really wary of rsoul. You are voting to lynch Gb now (who you have been adamant the entire game is town) simply based on the fact that you think I am mafia???? Rsoul I have just come back from a 1.5 year break and only played 1 game, have you even bothered to read that one game to compare it to this one? Or are you too busy posting 22 pages worth of filter to actually try and find scum? You seem like a smart person I find it really weird that you can't see any possible reasoning for why I would vote like I did as a townie, and now you are lynching your town read because you are so 100% sure I am mafia (yet I am pretty confident you havent even read any of my past games). Seems shady as shit. yes the caps lock thing is bs yes you were told the caps lock thing is bs no, no one posted a link yes you had more than just that reason to think gb was scum and most particularly that whole line of bolded reasoning is well and good assuming that you were scum playing to survive and not to protect a scum buddy, so kindly can the wifom. i'm not buying apparently you're not around to read the game. pushing the fidei bit or damdy's read change is not going to get you anywhere. pushing me is definitely not going to get you anywhere why is gb town? he caps locks as both alignments, so i'm not interested in that line of reasoning, either | ||
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rsoultin
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this also happened AFTER the lynch | ||
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Half the Sky
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Day 2 Vote Count GlowingBear (4): ShoCkeyy (3): VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, NydusHerMain LightningStrike (1): Onegu VayneAuthority (1): ruXxar Holyflare (1): Lohengramm (1): Mig Mig (0): Onegu (0): Not voted (4): ritoky, ShoCkeyy, Damdred, Fidei86 Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. | ||
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rsoultin
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i see your questions you asked them, and i'll grant you that it's possible you could have just gotten cold feet as town when bf disappeared...though for someone as...apparently logical as you an emotional/gut reaction of that nature seems odd. no, i don't know you, and no i really had no interest in looking at your last game when it was the voting i found scummy (also not sure why you'd even think that's relevant...i wasn't criticizing an element of your overall play, now was i?) so, i'm going to talk to you like you're town since i'd rather lynch gb today damdy could be scum based on lack of activity, i agree...he falls off like this occasionally as both alignments but it happens more frequently when he's scum. i still kinda think he's town, though...one reason is i doubt he blows his metaread on me in a scum game...i'm one of the more adaptable scum players on the site yama definitely could be scum. if gb is scum that lovely gb/bm FUCK THIS I'M REPLACING wifom is actually fairly possible, tbh, but more just yama isn't playing like his townie self anyway and just came out of a scum game so it wouldn't surprise me if his motivation were low lol if you get anything worthwhile out of my scum games, i'd actually be curious xP but you probably shouldn't tell me | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On June 21 2015 14:42 GlowingBear wrote: LS is 100% town Why is Rsoultin voting me'? On June 21 2015 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB, tell me why LS claim then unclaim and how can that make him town? Hey GB, can you just answer this? or quote where you talked about him being town to you? I tried to find it through out your filter and really couldn't. On June 21 2015 22:42 LightningStrike wrote: You know what I just had a better thought: I think the majority of us here think Shockeyy is scum I didn't like his EoD although for a little before EoD he startled looking better but his explanation for his switch to Boxerfred doesn't match up what he had just said to ritoky. I wont be here for the majority of the day since it's father's day I prob wont be here EoD since I going to Six Flags for Father's Day with my family. Idc if I got a null read on VA but I got a townread on GB on meta and would rather lynch Shockeyy over GB any day. ##Unvote ##Vote: ShoCkeyy What? lol... Did you even read thread? On June 21 2015 23:23 NydusHerMain wrote: Incase I miss EoD, ##Vote: Shockey I think he's scummier than GB. GB I'm only reading scummy because a lot of my towns are on him. Care to explain why I'm scummier? No one has really said why and how I can be scum other than "I think he's scummier" even LS's push against me was trash. He had no reason to think so. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On June 21 2015 07:11 NydusHerMain wrote: Whatever the Shockey read is like 40 pages old. Stay tuned until later tonight for a more accurate representation of my reads. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Happy father's day to any one who's a father. May your legacy be proud and appreciative of you  | ||
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Holyflare
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(did forget you read the tone thing that i pointed out a million times) | ||
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Holyflare
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Haha this guy is so town. | ||
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Fidei86
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ESL is pretty fun you guys. I will be back tomorrow and ready to close this one out for town. | ||
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Fidei86
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rsoultin
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On June 22 2015 01:42 Holyflare wrote: Yeh rsoul, basically association :p (did forget you read the tone thing that i pointed out a million times) lol ;o; fine, fine i feel so oversimplified by you people xP eh yeah i dunnae about "so town" or whatever but i don't think we should lynch shockey over like a handful of other players so i'm not sure why this push, frankly  | ||
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