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If you requote your response, I'll try my best to respond now,
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On June 29 2015 12:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 11:59 NydusHerMain wrote:
Like I said, I started giving less of a fuck when we weren't in danger of losing because not only did I townread gb, he had a red check and if you came up miller we could lynch someone scummy anyways. I felt no pressure to really try to solve the ga,e because there were certainties laid out. Same as last day. Mig is confirmed mafia, that's it. Period. but if you read what I was writing then you should have been contemplating other scenarios? rolecops showing millers, gb checking ls despite saying he town read him etc etc, me flipping miller may have cleared him unnecessarily and you wouldn't even have noticed because you didn't read a word i said?
I don't even know what a role cop is.
LS was a fine check regardless of his townread because he was being pushed on heavily. When I'm cop in video mafia, I check people who are voted on or under heavy discussion to be certain of their alignment.
I townread gb anyways so I probably wasn't going to lynch him unless RS said my read was shit.
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On June 29 2015 12:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2015 04:55 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2015 14:45 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore me and you're probably not making it to tomorrow because I'm pretty fucking towny and despite being a newbie, I'd like to think that I have decent sway today. just ignore her back she loves it i'm sorry if we've caused unnecessary confusion with the votes but they are just sitting afk on rsoultin due to sheer lazyness so treat like 3/4 of them as not real votes the people that i'd likely lynch today will be: the person that gets replaced
boxerfred
possibly va but i'll have to have a think about that
notreallysureaboutlshe'sgivingmedemweirdfeels If HF is mafia I think this is a very interesting post. He assumes that boxerfred or VA are getting replaced and boxerfred ended up being town so maybe he says this knowing his mafia team mates aren't being up for being replaced and only chose who he sees as lurky town. I would think that this might make VA more likely to be town. Also in a further quote: Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore me and you're probably not making it to tomorrow because I'm pretty fucking towny and despite being a newbie, I'd like to think that I have decent sway today. just ignore her back she loves it i'm sorry if we've caused unnecessary confusion with the votes but they are just sitting afk on rsoultin due to sheer lazyness so treat like 3/4 of them as not real votes the people that i'd likely lynch today will be: the person that gets replaced boxerfred possibly va but i'll have to have a think about that notreallysureaboutlshe'sgivingmedemweirdfeels oh yeh shockey too and Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:50 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 18 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore me and you're probably not making it to tomorrow because I'm pretty fucking towny and despite being a newbie, I'd like to think that I have decent sway today. just ignore her back she loves it i'm sorry if we've caused unnecessary confusion with the votes but they are just sitting afk on rsoultin due to sheer lazyness so treat like 3/4 of them as not real votes the people that i'd likely lynch today will be: the person that gets replaced boxerfred possibly va but i'll have to have a think about that notreallysureaboutlshe'sgivingmedemweirdfeels Wouldn't MiG be the one getting replaced since he has 0 posts? And I see.... either mig or bill murray yeh the reason is that they both had to have /confirmed to play the game and doing that meant they had time to play, hts just asked for only ONE replacement near the start of the game which likely meant someone got their role pm and was like fuck this lets replace Which makes it sound like he slipped as scum by forgetting his lurky scum partners and decided to overcompensate and panic talked about them when he realized he forgot his partners. by the way nydus on re-reading your filter, that list is clearly a list of people I think might be mafia, the person getting replaced was between bill murray and mig because combined they had a total of 0 posts, the remaining 3 were mafia reads or people i would just be fine lynching Also On June 25 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least You looked bored  so I gave a quick post before reading have you finished yet? it's been a while and it seems like you're just content ignoring the goings on for about 2 cycles now. I know your play was pretty towny day 1 but in the situation where i am a miller and gb is mafia and there is a role cop you'll be entirely fucked if you're town because you're complacent just lynching me and trusting that that means gb is cop if i'm a miller entirely relevant
At that point I probably wasn't done reading. If gb was mafia fake claiming, and he got a fake red check on a miller by luck, then he deserved the win ... Horrible thing to say as town but that's what I was thinking. It was just such an unlikely scenario that I was willing to Occam's razor it.
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On June 29 2015 12:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 12:17 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 29 2015 12:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 25 2015 04:55 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2015 14:45 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore me and you're probably not making it to tomorrow because I'm pretty fucking towny and despite being a newbie, I'd like to think that I have decent sway today. just ignore her back she loves it i'm sorry if we've caused unnecessary confusion with the votes but they are just sitting afk on rsoultin due to sheer lazyness so treat like 3/4 of them as not real votes the people that i'd likely lynch today will be: the person that gets replaced
boxerfred
possibly va but i'll have to have a think about that
notreallysureaboutlshe'sgivingmedemweirdfeels If HF is mafia I think this is a very interesting post. He assumes that boxerfred or VA are getting replaced and boxerfred ended up being town so maybe he says this knowing his mafia team mates aren't being up for being replaced and only chose who he sees as lurky town. I would think that this might make VA more likely to be town. Also in a further quote: Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore me and you're probably not making it to tomorrow because I'm pretty fucking towny and despite being a newbie, I'd like to think that I have decent sway today. just ignore her back she loves it i'm sorry if we've caused unnecessary confusion with the votes but they are just sitting afk on rsoultin due to sheer lazyness so treat like 3/4 of them as not real votes the people that i'd likely lynch today will be: the person that gets replaced boxerfred possibly va but i'll have to have a think about that notreallysureaboutlshe'sgivingmedemweirdfeels oh yeh shockey too and Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:50 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 18 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 03:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore me and you're probably not making it to tomorrow because I'm pretty fucking towny and despite being a newbie, I'd like to think that I have decent sway today. just ignore her back she loves it i'm sorry if we've caused unnecessary confusion with the votes but they are just sitting afk on rsoultin due to sheer lazyness so treat like 3/4 of them as not real votes the people that i'd likely lynch today will be: the person that gets replaced boxerfred possibly va but i'll have to have a think about that notreallysureaboutlshe'sgivingmedemweirdfeels Wouldn't MiG be the one getting replaced since he has 0 posts? And I see.... either mig or bill murray yeh the reason is that they both had to have /confirmed to play the game and doing that meant they had time to play, hts just asked for only ONE replacement near the start of the game which likely meant someone got their role pm and was like fuck this lets replace Which makes it sound like he slipped as scum by forgetting his lurky scum partners and decided to overcompensate and panic talked about them when he realized he forgot his partners. by the way nydus on re-reading your filter, that list is clearly a list of people I think might be mafia, the person getting replaced was between bill murray and mig because combined they had a total of 0 posts, the remaining 3 were mafia reads or people i would just be fine lynching Also On June 25 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least You looked bored so I gave a quick post before reading have you finished yet? it's been a while and it seems like you're just content ignoring the goings on for about 2 cycles now. I know your play was pretty towny day 1 but in the situation where i am a miller and gb is mafia and there is a role cop you'll be entirely fucked if you're town because you're complacent just lynching me and trusting that that means gb is cop if i'm a miller entirely relevant At that point I probably wasn't done reading. If gb was mafia fake claiming, and he got a fake red check on a miller by luck, then he deserved the win ... Horrible thing to say as town but that's what I was thinking. It was just such an unlikely scenario that I was willing to Occam's razor it. mmm I was saying that he could have checked my role because of what he was saying day 1 that I was playing to survive so he could have thought I was a blue and used the role cop ability to find out i'm a miller and fake the red check but anyway not important anymore, where the hell is everyone else?
Not to be hypocritical but probably afk like always
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On June 29 2015 12:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I been here I was just observing Nydus and you together HF and commented on a small detail regarding Mig and Shockeyy.
What are your thoughts so far,
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So I'm on my phone so don't have the best memory but it might help to check for read flips etc. between the two people who died after n1 because that might give us an idea as to whether or not bugs was the save? It's possible that they flipped on bugs randomly or defended him or avoided him because that might've made them think they were jailer/vanisher defeating any wifom of "I wouldn't kill people town reading me"
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I'm suspecting that those were role bullets because they didn't know for sure that masons existed but at that point on, they KNEW there was a medic/roleblocker
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Actually scratch that. That doesn't prove anything.
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Actually I think it has the chance to prove something.
1) if they were scum reading bugs, probably means that they thought it was a roleblocker meaning bugs would be mafia since if it was a town roleblocker they were hunting for, bugs is scum that carried kp
2) if they were town reading bugs, NAI because they could hunt for medic if bugs is saved or bugs could be roleblocked as mafia and still look for a jailer thinking that jailer will believe he is town
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Can someone filter dive the n2 deaths and compare their day 1 reads on bugs or people in general versus their day 2 reads before they died?
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Does what I'm suggesting even make sense?
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On June 30 2015 06:33 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 10:19 NydusHerMain wrote:
Here's why I want to lynch you regardless of my town read on you. Rs wanted to kill the fuck out of you next after mig and there was no reason for her to die over VA who could've potentially gotten a save on RS. If RS were alive today, she'd be gunning for you. If she was alive yesterday, she would be making a huge case against you. If I were scum and you're town, I nk in the order of VA and then Fidei, ride RS like a parapalegic in a wheelchair and try to get a ML on you. Towny as fuck or not, she was going after you and scum has no reason to kill her if she's pushing a town HF. Why shouldn't RS die over VA? VA hadn't outed the fact that he was jailkeeper at that point. I really like your point about keeping RS alive if HF is town and let her get the ML going.
VA had outted. This was the day where mig fake claimed to get gb mislynched. VA claimed jk and gave mig more validity to his claim?
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On June 30 2015 06:43 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 10:38 Holyflare wrote:
like i don't have to tell you how retarded it is to not be on a unanimous target regardless of what you think today Being on a unanimous target is a sign that we're voting off town or mafia bussing their teammate, with the first being more likely than the second. I don't like the feeling I get when a lynch goes through unanimously, unless there it's very clear that a target is going to be lynched. Which is why it's also important to look for the people that are pushing in opposite directions and discern their motivation for doing so. (maybe they are trying to save their mafia buddy from the train ?).
If we're not voting unanimously and even one town votes on another town, mafia can swap all their votes at eod and we lose. That's why we need to pick one target
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At the end of the day, it's on Fidei to pick the final lynch because he's guaranteed town
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On June 30 2015 08:03 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:40 NydusHerMain wrote:
Actually I think it has the chance to prove something.
1) if they were scum reading bugs, probably means that they thought it was a roleblocker meaning bugs would be mafia since if it was a town roleblocker they were hunting for, bugs is scum that carried kp
2) if they were town reading bugs, NAI because they could hunt for medic if bugs is saved or bugs could be roleblocked as mafia and still look for a jailer thinking that jailer will believe he is town Can you ELI 5? I have a hard time understand all the role stuff :<.
So we know for a fact that bugs was jailed on n1. If bugs is mafia, and his KP was roleblocked, mafia will be looking for a roleblocker to kill the next night. So, they will be specifically looking for people who thinks bugs is mafia because they think that the roleblocker roleblocked him because they thought he was scummy. This means that if the night kills are people who were specifically reading bugs scummy before they died, especially more on day 2 than day 1 since they'd have confirmation that roleblocking bugs resulted in reduction in kp, it makes bugs more likely to be mafia.
If bugs was actually saved, then mafia doesn't know that bugs was jailed, but could also think he was medic saved so mafia night kills will be specifically hunting for someone who town reads bugs or tries to avoid him like the plague (readswise) because that would be looking for someone who thinks that they got a confirmed town. However, if bugs is mafia and his kp got blocked, they might also think that it was a jailer and consequently, could also hunt for someone who town reads bugs because they might think that it's a jailer who could think that bugs was saved.
Basically, if the people who died were scum reading bugs, he's more likely to be scum, if the people who died were town reading bugs, it doesn't really mean anything but slightly leans him towards town because it's riskier for mafia to kill people town reading him even if it's a role kill.
On June 30 2015 07:31 Fidei86 wrote:
@Nyd I really don't think it's for me to choose the lynch. I mean, I am town, but I've been hopeless this game. I want to lynch HF because I don't think we'd ever live it down if we let someone argue us out of a red check. I agree that lynching him doesn't necessarily take us closer to victory, since we're still at mis-lynch/lose, but seeing peoples reactions to the accusation is still interesting.
Okay I guess what I should've said was that whoever we decide to lynch, you need to be convinced that it is the right lynch because we need your vote no matter who we vote on in order to win. Let's say you're the sole voter on someone and that person is mafia, the only way we don't lose at EoD is if the other three town exactly has all unanimously voted on a single mafia target so that we can win based on us voting someone first. Any other combination will result in mafia being able to swap at EoD and we lose. So no matter what, we need you so even if you're not choosing who is lynched, you have to be on board.
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On June 20 2015 14:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 14:19 Breshke wrote:
Rit I agree shockey is scummy and I want to lynch him or Mig today if we arn't lynching GB
Can you explain why you don't want to lynch GB do you have him as town? Or do you just think shockey is scummier honestly i remember gb doing some townie shit and some scummy shit so his alignment is inconclusive to me. maybe he is scum cuz he keeps getting bogged down in stupid shit. i don't really give a damn. i see shockeyy and bugs' slot (now ruxxar) as scum. with the outside shot of LS. that's who i want to lynch and i want people to get on board. for bugs/ruxxar -> endless shit fighting into little production -> prompting shockeyy after afk implies QT -> ruxxar posts manufactured reads...didn't even know LS claimed a role even though it dominated 70 pages of the game. called LS calm and collected...just no..just no. if GB is still whiny after i get through those 2 and if damdred still hasn't posted more then i will go deal with those two.
On June 21 2015 08:32 ritoky wrote:
honestly feel like ruxxar could be scum operating on teammate advice....just reading filters and spam posting evaluations while disengaged from the game.
On June 22 2015 05:16 ritoky wrote:
talk about some1 who might actually get lynched today ruxx.
Constant scumreading ruxx and scumreading shockey all day 2.
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On June 19 2015 09:35 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this: On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear like this is really fucking weird You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF. what do you think about GB now? Also bugs what information should people gather from you and ritoky discussing who is better than who?
On June 19 2015 09:41 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:35 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this: On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear like this is really fucking weird You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF. what do you think about GB now? Also bugs what information should people gather from you and ritoky discussing who is better than who? they can gather whatever information they want, really most people in this game don't seem to have the ability to comprehend what they read anyway Yeah but you can see where VA is coming from. You said last game (i think?) that your main problem was not forming reads but convincing others of those reads.It doesn't help if your filter has splattering s of posts which arn't that useful and are tiresome to read again and again.
On June 20 2015 12:06 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 09:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
nightkill means pussies are playing mafia, pretty useful to know Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
kinda reinforces the fact that GB is probably scum, he talks a lot in QT and has weird commitment issues on nightkills and actions. likes to second guess. A clear protection dodge on the nightkill. Nah this is deffs a weird view point in my opinion because if you come to the conclusion that GB is scum like you did there was 3 players i would say were pushing him the hardest. HF Bugs KSC Bugs replaced out so why kill the replacement who is a newbie and called GB town.KSC dead And how do you know HF wasnt targeted by mafia and someone got a save or succesfully roleblocked mafia. I don't really get your viewpoint VA
On June 20 2015 14:16 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 12:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
if you guys are gonna call me a lurker at least know what you're talking about eh? I actually read the game.
On June 20 2015 22:31 Breshke wrote:
ruxxar can you pls pls do shockey analysis.
On June 22 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2015 06:19 GlowingBear wrote:On June 22 2015 06:16 Breshke wrote:
Why did you check mig? Because if he was Mafia, bugs should be too Why? Also I'm not saying a check on me would be omgus and I also think checking someone who was under heavy suspicion not great because of the possibility of a framer but that's meh logic I'm not really buying this to be honest but could still see myself lynching Yamato today to see how it plays out
Kinda sounds like he's talking about bugs as if he could be a save? Dunno..
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Yeah I'm sorry... I honestly just don't trust my reads that much because I was totally okay with all the mislynches so far because I thought they were scum... so I'm just trying to find some associative read >.> ...
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On June 30 2015 13:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 13:53 NydusHerMain wrote:
Yeah I'm sorry... I honestly just don't trust my reads that much because I was totally okay with all the mislynches so far because I thought they were scum... so I'm just trying to find some associative read >.> ... ??? You are trying to find associative reads now in lylo when only one scum have flipped?
Have you read the thread? O.o
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On June 27 2015 12:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote VayneAuthority
Just got caught up with thread, your filter is just riddled with scum and you just gave yourself away. Thanks for making it easier!
This is the only thing that makes me think shockey could be town.... From a mafia pov, I feel like with him being constantly afk from the thread, the majority of his information would come from mafia qt and he'd get confirmation bias as he reads through the thread afterwards. So I feel like with mafia probably laughing at getting cop mislynched and outing the jailer, and if RS died, probably a lot of discussion on whether or not to kill RS or JAILER, shockey would be flooded with "VA is the jailer" and would thus think that VA was confirmed town. Meh. I only said onegu was higher on the scum list than shockey because mig at least mentioned shockey as scum but otherwise he's legit higher on my scum list than onegu. I don't know how to feel LOL. Help me.
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