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Unless anyone has a pressing question I'm going to sleep and will read over everything that happened tomorrow.
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On June 19 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul.
There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first.
HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore.
Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1.
Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say
i kinda just said how am i supposed to know gb withdrew or countered his own point in another post?
thanks for trying to clear it up, though. i'm trying to clear it up with him, too
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On June 19 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul.
There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first.
HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore.
Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1.
Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say
i think i love you
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On June 19 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul.
There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first.
HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore.
Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1.
Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say i kinda just said how am i supposed to know gb withdrew or countered his own point in another post? thanks for trying to clear it up, though. i'm trying to clear it up with him, too @.@
because i made that point multiple times during the thread
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On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread?
no
i'm going to eat then review the game again
though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth
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On June 19 2015 07:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul.
There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first.
HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore.
Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1.
Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say i kinda just said how am i supposed to know gb withdrew or countered his own point in another post? thanks for trying to clear it up, though. i'm trying to clear it up with him, too @.@ because i made that point multiple times during the thread
haven't read the whole thread
sorry -shrugs-
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Sorry BF.
For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts.
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On June 19 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread? no i'm going to eat then review the game again though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth
if I don't get something prior to the silence period I'm going to assume you are scum with GB
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On June 19 2015 07:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul.
There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first.
HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore.
Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1.
Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say i think i love you
Wrong. I've never said point 1 doesn't apply.
My arguments were: the joke and he fact that the guy said he skinmed the thread but then focused only on HF and Kelsier, immediately calling HF scum. This is weird because if you skim the thread you will face Rsoultin and bugs discussion, and LS's claim with people getting on him. Locking arbitrarily on these two people felt off to me.
The points HF brought, tho, completely NAI.
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Alright, listen. I AM town.
I want to make this clear. If there is any point you need me to clear myself, please tell me. I can't continue playing if you keep tunneling me without reconsidering things
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On June 18 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy
b) made a false timeline of events
c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context
d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question These reasons you picked from him to call him scum. I can see him coming from both perspectives regarding this Town POV (a) I can see a newbie looking at something that, for him, is scummy - someone displaying a self meta to call himself town. You saying that he did it just for the sake of calling something scummy is an interpretation of yours, but could not be his intention (nothing in his gameplay shows this - he actually voted you and pressured you) (b) 60 pages in 24 hours can make you mix things when you are skimming through the thread. You've seen me doing that as town quite a few times. (c) see point b (d) what question is that? Mafia POV 1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me. 2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting? That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points.
let's quote the whole post
now let's quote the whole of the post you conveniently edited out of the first quote
On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference. If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective. you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/4wAO1N5uusbMQ/giphy.gif)
OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the otheryour list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post: a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced
hey look there's that point of mine you stole while calling all of my points trash
much convenient
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On June 19 2015 07:46 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread? no i'm going to eat then review the game again though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth if I don't get something prior to the silence period I'm going to assume you are scum with GB
...you do realize that threatening me is likely to achieve the opposite of the intended effect
i'll play the game the way i damn well please, and that includes trusting MY READS over yours, and taking the time to make those reads instead of adhering to your timetable
this behavior is not as helpful to town as you seem to thing it is
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On June 19 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread? no i'm going to eat then review the game again though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth if I don't get something prior to the silence period I'm going to assume you are scum with GB ...you do realize that threatening me is likely to achieve the opposite of the intended effect i'll play the game the way i damn well please, and that includes trusting MY READS over yours, and taking the time to make those reads instead of adhering to your timetable this behavior is not as helpful to town as you seem to thing it is
yes, cause trusting your read on BF has really worked out well for you so far.
That mentality again makes no sense if you are town because you've already been proven to be dead wrong
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On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry BF.
For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts.
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On June 19 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy
b) made a false timeline of events
c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context
d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question These reasons you picked from him to call him scum. I can see him coming from both perspectives regarding this Town POV (a) I can see a newbie looking at something that, for him, is scummy - someone displaying a self meta to call himself town. You saying that he did it just for the sake of calling something scummy is an interpretation of yours, but could not be his intention (nothing in his gameplay shows this - he actually voted you and pressured you) (b) 60 pages in 24 hours can make you mix things when you are skimming through the thread. You've seen me doing that as town quite a few times. (c) see point b (d) what question is that? Mafia POV 1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me. 2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting? That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. let's quote the whole post now let's quote the whole of the post you conveniently edited out of the first quote Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference. If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective. you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed
OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the otheryour list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post: a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced hey look there's that point of mine you stole while calling all of my points trash much convenient
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I swear I didn't read that part
I've just read the letters
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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hey LS does rsoultin normally have such shitty opinions or is she actually scum this game
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On June 19 2015 07:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy
b) made a false timeline of events
c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context
d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question These reasons you picked from him to call him scum. I can see him coming from both perspectives regarding this Town POV (a) I can see a newbie looking at something that, for him, is scummy - someone displaying a self meta to call himself town. You saying that he did it just for the sake of calling something scummy is an interpretation of yours, but could not be his intention (nothing in his gameplay shows this - he actually voted you and pressured you) (b) 60 pages in 24 hours can make you mix things when you are skimming through the thread. You've seen me doing that as town quite a few times. (c) see point b (d) what question is that? Mafia POV 1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me. 2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting? That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. let's quote the whole post now let's quote the whole of the post you conveniently edited out of the first quote On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference. If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective. you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed
OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the otheryour list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post: a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced hey look there's that point of mine you stole while calling all of my points trash much convenient HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I swear I didn't read that part I've just read the letters HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
get the fuck out of here
vig this guy
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On June 19 2015 07:52 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread? no i'm going to eat then review the game again though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth if I don't get something prior to the silence period I'm going to assume you are scum with GB ...you do realize that threatening me is likely to achieve the opposite of the intended effect i'll play the game the way i damn well please, and that includes trusting MY READS over yours, and taking the time to make those reads instead of adhering to your timetable this behavior is not as helpful to town as you seem to thing it is yes, cause trusting your read on BF has really worked out well for you so far. That mentality again makes no sense if you are town because you've already been proven to be dead wrong
Trusting your read would get a townie lynched too.
At least she correctly read me as town and you didn't.
Now, how about you stop throwing dirt on everyone and actually start thinking about the whole game?
There are 4 madia and you are locked in only one
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On June 19 2015 07:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
hey LS does rsoultin normally have such shitty opinions or is she actually scum this game
She nomally have bad opinions from time to time hence I kept on telling her to sheep me after we talked to each other in the Obs QT for Newbie LX.
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