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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2015 20:18 GMT
#1481
Oatsmaster could be mafia


Says he's VT in the first post (which is bad anyway, narrows down the blues) and then defends himself about his VT claim saying "Have you seen it done before?" (BTW, Onegu has done it before in XXX I believe)
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On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
Hi friends.

A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.

aaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like Oats for now! (kidding, mostly)

##Vote: Oatsmaster


why would you do this.
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide:

  1. don't claim your role
  2. find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
  3. say why this 1 person is mafia
  4. do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.

1. Im vt.
2. Bats is mafia.
3. Chezinu rule.

##vote Bats


On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you dont want to convince me or Trfel?

Ok bats, quote 5 posts you think will help town lynch mafia.
So that does not include fluff and defensive posts.



I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening.


Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post.

Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim?
You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before?



Switches his read on Bats fairly easily, doesn't mention the reason for switching to geript - bails
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On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.



Wants to go after Moosy now, even though he only mentions a joke post about him and nothing else
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On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's get moosy tmr


On June 13 2015 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:01 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.

##unvote
##vote moosygoosy

So you're voting along with scum? Interesting.


I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post.

So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt?

Dont like that at all.
Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread.

Geript too btw.

I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop.


I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against.

But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose.

And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster.

Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself.


You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you).

LOL
So you're not even assuming the same thing Geript apparently did?
Geript at least seemed to assume Moosy was town shitposting at first which would make scum jump on for an easy mislynch, but you think he's scum and ALSO think scum would bus him right off the bat?

That's fucking horrible.

Dude, wtf would the Mafias do that for. Shouldn't they try and help each other?

LOL this post. Oh man. I would feel so silly if moose is mafia.



Throws out lynching me with no explanation - I and others ask about it but never replies - what happened to Moosy?
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On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like lynching Scot.



Meta reason for calling Damdred scum - still doesn't explain the reasoning on me
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On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.

Sulph / damdred mafia.

Scott also maybe.



Goes back to Damdred without reason except for the above?
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On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.




Conclusions -

Oats asks a lot of questions without followup
Follows the bandwagon of the thread until KS wants to be lynched
Shit reasons for wanting to lynch me and Damdred
Unsure what direction he wants to go if he's town
Oats could be mafia.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2015 20:18 GMT
#1482
That's a case Sulfurus, stop getting what I posted earlier confused.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 16 2015 20:20 GMT
#1483
On June 17 2015 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Sulfurus's post basically reveals that he would have only lynched Kickstart if everyone else was going to. This basically shows that he's only willing to vote on wagons and never by himself. This correlates to the rest of his play which is disturbing because Mafia generally wishes to follow easy wagons.


This is Extremely false:

On June 14 2015 05:04 Sulfurus wrote:
If it wasn't clear I would lynch trfel and I shouldn't have ignored him just for voting bats.

On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster


I'm also getting tired of your bandwagon argument in every post you make.
Do you have anything new to come up with?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:20 GMT
#1484
On June 17 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote:
I thought rels was town though.

But that post just is weird to me anytime someone calls someone an easy mislynch or town for no reason bothers mr

It's because I felt all day that if mafia tried a switch, it would be on ruxxar. Lots of people yesterday and today kept mentionning how they would be OK lynching him. The thread sentiment is against him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:23 GMT
#1485
On June 17 2015 05:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Sulfurus's post basically reveals that he would have only lynched Kickstart if everyone else was going to. This basically shows that he's only willing to vote on wagons and never by himself. This correlates to the rest of his play which is disturbing because Mafia generally wishes to follow easy wagons.


This is Extremely false:

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:04 Sulfurus wrote:
If it wasn't clear I would lynch trfel and I shouldn't have ignored him just for voting bats.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster


I'm also getting tired of your bandwagon argument in every post you make.
Do you have anything new to come up with?

Why don't you let him defend himself.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 16 2015 20:23 GMT
#1486
On June 17 2015 05:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:20 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Sulfurus's post basically reveals that he would have only lynched Kickstart if everyone else was going to. This basically shows that he's only willing to vote on wagons and never by himself. This correlates to the rest of his play which is disturbing because Mafia generally wishes to follow easy wagons.


This is Extremely false:

On June 14 2015 05:04 Sulfurus wrote:
If it wasn't clear I would lynch trfel and I shouldn't have ignored him just for voting bats.

On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster


I'm also getting tired of your bandwagon argument in every post you make.
Do you have anything new to come up with?

Why don't you let him defend himself.


Nothing would please me more.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:25 GMT
#1487
On June 17 2015 05:18 scott31337 wrote:
Oatsmaster could be mafia


Says he's VT in the first post (which is bad anyway, narrows down the blues) and then defends himself about his VT claim saying "Have you seen it done before?" (BTW, Onegu has done it before in XXX I believe)
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
Hi friends.

A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.

aaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like Oats for now! (kidding, mostly)

##Vote: Oatsmaster


why would you do this.
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide:

  1. don't claim your role
  2. find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
  3. say why this 1 person is mafia
  4. do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.

1. Im vt.
2. Bats is mafia.
3. Chezinu rule.

##vote Bats


On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you dont want to convince me or Trfel?

Ok bats, quote 5 posts you think will help town lynch mafia.
So that does not include fluff and defensive posts.



I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening.


Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post.

Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim?
You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before?



Switches his read on Bats fairly easily, doesn't mention the reason for switching to geript - bails
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.



Wants to go after Moosy now, even though he only mentions a joke post about him and nothing else
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's get moosy tmr


On June 13 2015 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:01 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.

##unvote
##vote moosygoosy

So you're voting along with scum? Interesting.


I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post.

So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt?

Dont like that at all.
Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread.

Geript too btw.

I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop.


I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against.

But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose.

And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster.

Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself.


You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you).

LOL
So you're not even assuming the same thing Geript apparently did?
Geript at least seemed to assume Moosy was town shitposting at first which would make scum jump on for an easy mislynch, but you think he's scum and ALSO think scum would bus him right off the bat?

That's fucking horrible.

Dude, wtf would the Mafias do that for. Shouldn't they try and help each other?

LOL this post. Oh man. I would feel so silly if moose is mafia.



Throws out lynching me with no explanation - I and others ask about it but never replies - what happened to Moosy?
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like lynching Scot.



Meta reason for calling Damdred scum - still doesn't explain the reasoning on me
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On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.

Sulph / damdred mafia.

Scott also maybe.



Goes back to Damdred without reason except for the above?
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.




Conclusions -

Oats asks a lot of questions without followup
Follows the bandwagon of the thread until KS wants to be lynched
Shit reasons for wanting to lynch me and Damdred
Unsure what direction he wants to go if he's town
Oats could be mafia.

OK so your case basically is:
1. Oats is not commiting to reads or pushes..
2. Oats talks a lot but doesn't analyse anything.
3. Oats switched without giving reasons.

Mm. I would not lynched over kickstart. But I would lynched over ruxxar.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:27 GMT
#1488
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 16 2015 20:31 GMT
#1489
On June 17 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><


I've only gotten 5 hours combined sleep the last 2 days :/
I don't recommend it at all.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 16 2015 20:35 GMT
#1490
On June 17 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2015 04:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 17 2015 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 17 2015 04:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The question is whether we lynch the guy who posts weird shit and leaves for a day or the guy who wagons on everything and posts weird shit but can be given a newbie pass.

Why are you on Rels?

Oh. I forgot to unvote. Thanks

##unvote Rels


Heh...

Looking at your filter I see you pushing Rels hard all day.
I want to know what made you change your mind.

Heh...

Looking at your filter I see you jumping on wagons all game.
I want to know what made you change your mind in all of them.


I will if you explain your change on Rels.

Make your argument, then name the cases in which I changed my vote and I'll answer all of them no problem.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 16 2015 20:40 GMT
#1491
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:41 GMT
#1492
OK taking 2 minutes thinking about Kickstart, I still think he's mafia.

I admit this post screams townie and made me rethink.
On June 17 2015 04:34 Kickstart wrote:
I'm here but going to forumulate a big ass post in typical Kickstart fashion because if town is going to be bad and let this lynch on me happen I can at least try to give something so you won't be in a useless spot after the lynch like you would be if it happened right now. Give me some time it takes me awhile to make these big posts, will try and keep up with the thread as I'm working on it.


But still, all the cases on him are still true. His vote process on me then on Sulfu was opportunistic, he didn't scumhunt at all except a super long case 6 hours into the game on ruxxar, he afk and posted excuses a few times, he had weird stances on the cop thing.

Sorry Kickstart if you are town, but coming with townie posts promising analysis 2 hours before deadline is not enough for me. I see that you are working on a last will post, so if you're town and that's not a ruse to make us switch, that's cool.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:43 GMT
#1493
On June 17 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><


I've only gotten 5 hours combined sleep the last 2 days :/
I don't recommend it at all.

I know that feeling!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 16 2015 20:50 GMT
#1494
On June 17 2015 05:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Sulfurus's post basically reveals that he would have only lynched Kickstart if everyone else was going to. This basically shows that he's only willing to vote on wagons and never by himself. This correlates to the rest of his play which is disturbing because Mafia generally wishes to follow easy wagons.


This is Extremely false:

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:04 Sulfurus wrote:
If it wasn't clear I would lynch trfel and I shouldn't have ignored him just for voting bats.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster


I'm also getting tired of your bandwagon argument in every post you make.
Do you have anything new to come up with?

Do I have anything new to come up with? No, because I like being consistent unlike a certain someone whose viewpoint changes with every couple of posts they make.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 16 2015 20:50 GMT
#1495
On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

Offense taken. My goal is to take you down in this game no matter what.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Sulfurus
Profile Joined May 2015
United States166 Posts
June 16 2015 20:51 GMT
#1496
On June 17 2015 05:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

Offense taken. My goal is to take you down in this game no matter what.


Dude please don't make it personal.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 16 2015 20:53 GMT
#1497
On June 17 2015 05:51 Sulfurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

Offense taken. My goal is to take you down in this game no matter what.


Dude please don't make it personal.

I won't with anyone else in the thread.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 16 2015 20:53 GMT
#1498
Still working on large post but it is coming.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:53 GMT
#1499
On June 17 2015 05:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

Offense taken. My goal is to take you down in this game no matter what.

What. You want to create a bad town atmosphere ? You re not willing to re evaluate all game ?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 16 2015 20:55 GMT
#1500
On June 17 2015 05:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><


I've only gotten 5 hours combined sleep the last 2 days :/
I don't recommend it at all.

I know that feeling!


Mafia is actually making it worse.

My head is automatically overflowing with thoughts trying to see connections, reasonings and flaws in peoples arguments.
Trying to put together alignments.

I just can't put it down and I end lying in bed with my phone next to me, refreshing the last page waiting for a new post.. which never comes.

It's even starting to influence my work, taking over my whole daily life basically.
I don't know how I feel about that, but somehow it feels great to be 100% engaged in something for once.

I understand that I have yet much to learn.
I watch people like n00bking and Trfel put together cases and I'm just stunned at how concise and logical they are.
I'm really envyous of their ability to make strong logical arguments.
I really wish I had that too.
Sigh...

I actually put together a minlist in excel.
I'm not sure if it's worth anything, but I'll share it anyway.

So basically i did a mini analysis on rels and sulfur, the two top suspects at the start of day 2.

Sulfur:
If sulfur is mafia then I don't think these 3 people are mafia :

Bats,
Moosy,
Rels

Rels:
If Rels is mafia then I don't think these 3 people are mafia:

Kickstart,
Sulfur,
Trfel.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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