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On June 13 2015 09:14 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 09:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Rels, any comments on my posts? Still confused why you don't think I'm townie. OK sorry in advance, but in my mind it's actually pretty good where you're at. I was so sure you were mafia with your first post that me imagining you at null read is a pretty good deal. When I made this post with the two points I was thinking I was going to destroy you. I think I was clouded by my first impression of you. You won't ever be a town lean in my mind until you either make a case on someone and defend it, or sheep a case on someone and explain why. Not taking stances = I can't judge you 100%.
Unfortunately I'm trying to be careful with my vote so it looks like that won't happen anytime soon. -.- At least I'm glad to see you're finally starting to realize I'm a townie.
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On June 13 2015 09:22 Sulfurus wrote:@Moosy you probably missed it but n00b was defending ruXx as early as page 9
Oh great, we have the same line of reasoning. If he thinks I'm Mafia that means he is too right?
##vote n00bking
##vote MoosyDoosy
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On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.
Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.
But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.
Reasoning for us three?
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On June 13 2015 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:K stuff I remember while reading earlier: Geript might not be scum. At the very least I give him more time. Especially since nobody seems to want to comment on what I've brought and those who have have been completely noncomittal. Givin' me the jibblies. ##unvote: GeriptTrfel's posting looked pretty good at first glance. Liked the stuff he picked up on Rels. I want to do a once-over just to see any surface similarities between here and the last game I played with him (I think I was scum in that one) and see if anything jumps out at me either meta- or otherwise. Sulf still looks like ass balls. Probably primary lynch for me right now. ##Vote: SulfurusShow nested quote +On June 13 2015 08:24 Sulfurus wrote:To start off I think n00bKing is the towniest person in this game period. Almost all of his posts are there to benefit town with either advice or very good questioning and again I think his reasoning on ruXxar is spot on (and much better then what Kick has said). So fmpov this make ruXx look really good and bats/kick look terrible (ruxx has also done a lot since that looks really towny in my eyes whereas kick and bats haven't). Moving on there is also the whole conflict between Wave and Geript caused by his shitty read on Moosy (which was sheeped by Bats even though geript himself has changed his mind). I think this interaction makes Wave look pretty good and bats once again doesn't however he has since changed his vote to Rels. Speaking of which the reason he is even voting Rels is because of a read by Trfel (looking back he was also one of the first to push scum on ruXx). So they may not be the strongest town reads on those I called town but I think you guys are right and bats really is playing differently this game. ##Vote: Batsnacks Like what IS this? Reiteration of stuff I already said, townreading me for no explained reason, opportunistic bats vote after being completely noncomittal about it earlier, and also while possibly attempting to pocket noob? I dunno somebody mentioned that Sulfurus' meta is to post kinda shitty but I can honestly say I don't care about that here. Scummy posting is scummy. Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 08:02 batsnacks wrote:
K well I have the longest filter now and anyone who thinks mafia batsnacks has the biggest filter d1 is a silly goose and I don't mind getting lynched by silly geese because they can't be reasoned with anyway. So I'm going to go play dwarf fortress. Hated this post because it reads as though batsnacks was simply aiming for this the entire time. Wouldn't vote him because of it but ugh city. Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 08:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 08:07 n00bKing wrote:On June 13 2015 07:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 07:54 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 07:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
While the case Trfel seems interesting, I'm not going to vote for you quite yet. It's simple for someone to just notice suspicious stuff while reading which explains the filler before you found the post from Plants. The rest of what Trfel says is interesting tho, so I'd still count you around as a possible Mafia. Wishy Washy very naughty. eh, not wishy washy. I initially thought that Rels was a townie and didn't suspect him. What Trfel says is very interesting and would be a very hard read on him but I don't feel it's concrete enough to vote for him right off the bat. It does raise some yellow flags around him tho. This is STILL wishy-washy. Side note: I think the fact that Rels jumped right into the thread and started responding to posts in order (without reading the entire thread first) is slightly Town-indicative. I don't think it's a GOOD habit to have, but I don't think it's something a Mafia player would do. And I could tell that's what he had done even before he admitted that's what he had done. Lol, if you think a slight change in opinion is wishy washy then I guess I can never change my opinion or stance in the future. Yuuuppppp Loving Moosy for this really. For the record I believe 'wishy-washy' on its own is a horrible scumtell. It's completely circumstantial and Moosy's play is pretty consistent although his continued attempts to purposefully draw attention to how inexperienced he is is starting to annoy me. We get it Moose, you're new. Just play the game now. The pressure batsnacks is under brought Rels to the surface. I don't know if anything more needs to be said on him consider how opportunistic his vote was even after pressure seemed to be dying down a little, but now he looks like scum who got caught with his pants slightly down and is being forced to stick to his guns while at the same time looking for a way to get off a possible town wagon. Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.
Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.
But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it. That is a godawful post ladies and gents. Keep an eye on this one. Finally, Scott I want to know who your top lynch is.
^ Basically this post. Sulfurus has been strange from the start. Although this may be how he posts, I don't see how he can change opinions so often and not have a clear stance.
Also, I only bring up the fact that I'm new because people keep on bringing up that ridiculous first post of mine. I understand it was silly of me and I've learned because of it but I seem to have to explain every time someone brings up that quote like it's groundbreaking or something.
On Rels, I've asked him about why he suspects us 3 so I'm looking for a REALLY good answer because that observation's even worse than trying to put me, batsnacks, and geript together.
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Why are you guys still going after batsnacks. Sure he was a shitty player at the start, but he's clearly a town player at this point. Unless you hold a grudge against him for his terrible start, I don't see why you would go after him.
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On June 14 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:
Who should we lynch today moos
Sulfurus. batsnacks is not Mafia. He's been playing a shitty game as he says and he deserves to die for doing so, but he's a townie no matter how I look at it. I'd prefer to vote for geript as he's acting strange as well, but the priority should be to keep a townie alive.
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On June 14 2015 03:50 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 18:17 ruXxar wrote:
I disagree.
There are 3 Mafia and 2 town roles.
I believe that reducing kill power from 2 to 1 is the single most important factor in us winning the game.
This would buy us so much time that we should have overwhelming odds of winning.
The chance of targeting Carl is very low.
I'm ok with taking the odds of a power role checking Carl if it means we increase our chances of killing mafia. Does knowing that there is only 1 mafia attack each Night change your position? Also, where are you getting that there are "2 town roles?" I see absolutely nothing that would indicate there are 8 VTs and 2 non-Vanilla Town roles, if that is what you are saying.
Sorry for this newbie question which I should have asked earlier but which slipped my mind because I had to do something else. What's a Carl?
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On June 14 2015 04:03 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 18:29 ruXxar wrote:On June 13 2015 18:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Btw I'm pretty sure there's only one kp.
can we get confirmation on whether there is 2 or 1 kp? Please try not to get mod-killed. The rules very clearly state that you are not allowed to make a post like that:
Actually, Onegu said that we could ask in green right afterwards. But, ya know, mod is clear Mafia for contradiction right?
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On June 14 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 03:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:
Who should we lynch today moos Sulfurus. batsnacks is not Mafia. He's been playing a shitty game as he says and he deserves to die for doing so, but he's a townie no matter how I look at it. I'd prefer to vote for geript as he's acting strange as well, but the priority should be to keep a townie alive. So he deserves to die for,playing shirts not that he's scum? that's interesting
I mean, when you sign up for something, it should be a commitment right? For him to start off the game making shitty posts, saying he's going to play shitty, and then saying he's going to go play Dwarf Fortress like it was his goal from the start is just annoying. ^.^ But he's still a townie and I feel like torturing him by making him stay for longer in the round.
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On June 14 2015 04:12 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote:On June 14 2015 03:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:
Who should we lynch today moos Sulfurus. batsnacks is not Mafia. He's been playing a shitty game as he says and he deserves to die for doing so, but he's a townie no matter how I look at it. I'd prefer to vote for geript as he's acting strange as well, but the priority should be to keep a townie alive. So he deserves to die for,playing shirts not that he's scum? that's interesting I think,I misunderstood your post is it about sulf or bat
batsnacks
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On June 14 2015 04:14 Trfel wrote:
Ugh, I just don't quite feel right about lynching geript or Damdred. They're both incredible players, and it's the weekend, so it's unfair to expect normal activity levels from them.
##vote Rels
What about Sulfurus and batsnacks? Thoughts?
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On June 14 2015 04:24 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 04:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 14 2015 04:14 Trfel wrote:
Ugh, I just don't quite feel right about lynching geript or Damdred. They're both incredible players, and it's the weekend, so it's unfair to expect normal activity levels from them.
##vote Rels You were voting for bats right? What does you switching to rels have anything to do with damdred or geript? And you'd be lynching them only for activity if you did and not for any other reason despite people already mentioning all sorts o fthings (about geript mainly) I have several reasons to suspect them, some of which haven't been mentioned yet, but I'm not quite ready to share them. I don't want to interfere at this time, as doing so would invalidate my read.Rels is primarily scummy for the reasons I mentioned earlier. However, the fact that he's still caught up on Fake)Plants' opening post despite saying that scott31337's posting seemed somewhat towny is really suspect to me. Immediately jumping on geript's unvoiced suspicion (despite scumreading geript) feels rather opportunistic.
Woah, Trfel, I would say it's especially important to share your thoughts if they do invalidate your reads. Otherwise we might all be bandwagoning on someone that's a fellow townie or someone who we didn't suspect was actually Mafia.
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On June 14 2015 04:32 Trfel wrote:Rels on Fake)Plants/scott31337Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 07:36 Rels wrote:
I was sure 100% he was mafia. Now that he got replaced that has changed. (referring to Fake)Plants) Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 08:40 Rels wrote:
Alright scott I don't see your posts as scummy. Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 01:27 Rels wrote:On June 14 2015 00:58 geript wrote:
It was a good reason tho. I remember thinking that. Yo geript. If you ever remember that reason I'll be super interested, as I hated plants' only post. I don't understand this at all. He basically says that he has no reason to scumread scott31337 any more, but doesn't townread him in his list post. And then, when geript ( who he was voting for at this time) mentions a reason that he moved scott31337 to null (but says that he doesn't remember the reason), Rels is extremely interested and justifies this by referring back to his initial read on Fake)Plants. The read he already said has changed. He's just jumping on something that's there, and it's hard for me to see him really trying to figure out scott31337's alignment.
Can people let Rels reply to this and NO ONE DEFEND him? Depending on his response, this might be the nail in the coffin.
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^ Just trying to draw attention to my above post. This is very important. We have to see Rels' response to this. Dis gun be gud.
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On June 14 2015 04:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 04:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 04:32 Trfel wrote:Rels on Fake)Plants/scott31337On June 13 2015 07:36 Rels wrote:
I was sure 100% he was mafia. Now that he got replaced that has changed. (referring to Fake)Plants) On June 13 2015 08:40 Rels wrote:
Alright scott I don't see your posts as scummy. On June 13 2015 09:07 Rels wrote:
Null
moosy
Damdred
scott On June 14 2015 01:27 Rels wrote:On June 14 2015 00:58 geript wrote:
It was a good reason tho. I remember thinking that. Yo geript. If you ever remember that reason I'll be super interested, as I hated plants' only post. I don't understand this at all. He basically says that he has no reason to scumread scott31337 any more, but doesn't townread him in his list post. And then, when geript ( who he was voting for at this time) mentions a reason that he moved scott31337 to null (but says that he doesn't remember the reason), Rels is extremely interested and justifies this by referring back to his initial read on Fake)Plants. The read he already said has changed. He's just jumping on something that's there, and it's hard for me to see him really trying to figure out scott31337's alignment. Can people let Rels reply to this and NO ONE DEFEND him? Depending on his response, this might be the nail in the coffin. Contrary to popular belief, cases on people aren't for those people to respond to to decide whether we lynch them or not. Cases are to convince the rest of town to lynch that person. Absolutely anyone can explain their way out of anything if given the chance.
Yeah I got that by now, but it's a super good time to get a read on his defense. And it will be spoiled if someone else replies and influences how he defends himself.
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On June 14 2015 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 04:47 Damdred wrote:
Imo lynch rels trfel has made several excellent posts that really show someone being crummy. I think it's a good case I'm tempted to sheep myself but I personally think Sulf is worse here. He keeps showing up, posting something once of no consequence and fucking off again. Why exactly do you think Rels is a better lynch?
My plan was to kill the most obvious Mafia (Sulfurus), then depending on Rels' defense, lynch him the next day.
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Sulfurus is set to be lynched not batsnacks. ^
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On June 14 2015 05:10 Sulfurus wrote:
Also don't feel bad if I don't answer your questions. I just don't feel like defending myself since I honestly feel my play is townie enough to speak for itself and I would rather find mafia for you guys to lynch afterwards.
In that case help us. Give arguments for why Trfel or anyone else you suspect is Mafia.
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@scot31337, bold ur vote in voting thread. Repost it so that u avoid edit.
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^ Alright batsnacks, reasoning?
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