It just makes 0 sense. Sure the gain is that mafia win, but it's a really awkward fake claim to make.
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It just makes 0 sense. Sure the gain is that mafia win, but it's a really awkward fake claim to make. | ||
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The only thing you guys need to decide is whether the claim is real or fake, all the other stuff is extraneous. It's not wifom. It's not wifom, stop saying it's wifom. Setup analysis clearly doesn't apply because I'm the cop. Lol you really went and made that argument. You are too sure I'm mafia to be town. You do realise that if I'm the cop town loses right? I don't get that feeling at all from your posts. This is just another mislynch for you. | ||
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Also, why bother offering me the out that if I have another similar cop game you will believe me when clearly the only thing that will make you vote wave is a mod announcement that I'm cop. This is complete bullshit from rels, Not from trfel and kickstart, they are town. | ||
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I'm cop guys please. Please don't make me feel bad because I'm pretty much the only reason we lose. | ||
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What you think isn't important. What's important is that I made a mistake clearly. Lol don't even bother talking about tmr if you just wanna lynch me without thinking. This game is over if I get lynched. Can you guys talk abouttthat? I have no idea what wave is coming in here and trying to do, but it's clear that he's skating by and just waiting for me to get lynched. We have 7 hours left. Can all the townies take 1 last look at wave and me, and determine if there is any way wave. could be mafia with the way he has played? Drop your egos and try and damn well win this game. look at any of my previous mafia games. I do not play llike this. At all. I can't find them for you, sorry but please don't rest because if you do, there is no tomorrow. Me being cop just makes so much sense. If you guys switch, interesting stuff will happen. Scum will get very worried. Trust me. | ||
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Wave is coasting like shit right now, he isn't even trying to find the second mafia. Rux, the posts preceeding the nightkill didn't imply an overwhelming need to lynch me today so I thought I could get out of it. How many times do you want me to answer the same question lol. | ||
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Also, remember all the claims you have seen while playing. How many of them were bad and mafia? How many of them were bad and town? I'm telling you that I have never seen a really really bad mafia fakeclaim, the only thing that gets close is bunnies vet claim in the most recent ver game but in that the claim was good enough for her to survive like 3 extra days. | ||
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On June 23 2015 00:21 ruXxar wrote: Alright oats. Real talk here. What made you so sure wave was mafia *before* you checked him? Why did you not check me, who you multiple times wanted to lynch, while you never expressed any desire to lynch wave before today. I've said already, my checks were people I was paranoid about but were not gonna get lynched any time soon. Imo they were great checks. I can't say anything about the setup speculation except recently the roles for games have been pretty weird, not enough oversight. Like when bat flipped I was pretty damn confused, mad hatter and 3 blues in a newbie game is weird but whatever, that's how it is. I think it's pretty close minded to take setup speculation as the reason to lynch me when there is evidence all around that wave is mafia. He's the one that got redchecked and he has put in the least amount of effort today. It should be the other way around if he's town.. Trust me. Lol. Life is tough huh. | ||
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On June 23 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote: And also, do you not agree with the setup analysis? Lol the setup stuff is just observation, how can I agree when I'm in a game that is clearly different from the previous newbie games? | ||
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It's a traditional thing. | ||
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And fyi, i didn't claim at the start because I actually think about optimum play. Claiming at the start of today is only optimal if I have both mafia Rux, I've posted like really clearly why I think wave is mafia. For the setup speculation, we already have had a mad hatter, a role previously never seen in a newbie game so why are you guys using that as an ultimate rule that can never be broken? | ||
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on June 16 2015 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean I'm just sitting here wondering why we're not lynching the guy who's clearly not playing the game, but that's just me. I am liking all the other stuff going on though. It makes me feel like scum are scrambling because the top townreads haven't really changed a whole lot and are untouchable while the scum are trying to figure out which of the dregs they can safely remove to continue on with the game. That in itself makes me feel good about Sulf not being targeted by anyone seemingly other than me. That says likely Sulf is scum and all the target switching and scumreads thrown out constantly means we're on the right track (although having to figure out which of all the people tossing around new scumreads are actually scum is blegggh). This post is a typical mafia post. It's super general and doesn't actually offer and real analysis. He implies that scum are scrambling when in actual fact, like half the game is doing something that he attributes as a scumtell. This is also without any mafia flips. he attributes to know what mafia are doing but the only mafia member he scum reads in this post and the next few posts are sulph, who is not doing what wave said scum or doing. Do you get this? | ||
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On June 19 2015 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote: So let me get this straight. You think Damdred is mafia. And you think Scott is mafia. And Scott is voting for Damdred, but he's not bussing this game. I mean...stop me if I'm not making sense here but SOMETHING isn't quite right, you know? Waves 180 on me is also really weird. Within a span of 36 hours, I go from one of his top town reads to one of his probably scum reads. This is consistent with the view of the thread, with kickstart and trfel pushing my case. However, in that space of time, wave only asked me a few questions after which he doesn't really follow up on, making me think that the read was changed in accordance with thread sentiment. There was nothing at all his wvaes filter showing his change of heart, just the change in tone with the posts towards me when he sheeped the scum read of kickstart. It's completely off. Wave totes mafia. | ||
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You say scum is doing stuff like that's the teams objective but you don't even bother to point out who are the people that might be trying to find easy mislynchs. Did you even read your post? I expect you to think sulph is doing it because it's a team direction. If it's not a team direction, then your post becomes completely invalid because that's not a scum tell then. I really gotta go to sleep. Town, reread and vote accordingly. You can save the game. I've done my best, now evaluate me. | ||
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On June 23 2015 01:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Waves 180 on me is also really weird. Within a span of 36 hours, I go from one of his top town reads to one of his probably scum reads. This is consistent with the view of the thread, with kickstart and trfel pushing my case. However, in that space of time, wave only asked me a few questions after which he doesn't really follow up on, making me think that the read was changed in accordance with thread sentiment. There was nothing at all his wvaes filter showing his change of heart, just the change in tone with the posts towards me when he sheeped the scum read of kickstart. It's completely off. Wave totes mafia. 'CAuse 36h is a super short time to change your read. Also I hear changing your read of someone is a super scummy thing to do.[/QUOTE] It's like 10-15 posts. And of all the things in the post, you manage to pick out that. Sick nitpick Nd dodging the main point Bro. | ||
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GG. The annoying thing was that people had the idea it was better to lose than to lynch wave. Like they were scared, oh if we lynch wave and he's town, I'm gonna feel more stupid than if we lynch oats and he's town. Man come on guys. I also thought his reaction was super super scummy which is why I kept repeating it over and over but you guys just let him slide on the past days cred. Oh yeah, people kept asking me questions after I explicitly said I was sleeping and won't be back before the flip. That was pretty funny. Maybe if I pushed trfel mafia to discredit him we could've won. Anyway its mostly my fault for sucking the majority of the game. Good game newbies. Really good game. It's also totally a scum tell when someone that's supposed to die ddoesn't die. It's not wifom. | ||
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