EPTI would agree that is a problem.
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I would agree that is a problem. | ||
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On June 10 2015 00:51 VayneAuthority wrote: boxerfred reminds me of my towngame a lot when i first started here so maybe im biased in thinking he is a duck duck goose town member On June 11 2015 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote: fuba is fine, wouldnt lynch boxer. putting him under too naive and troll to be scum for better or worse The third quote here being after the JAT/BT argument (page 90) On June 11 2015 23:14 VayneAuthority wrote: honestly it looks like town on town to me, i think fuba would be the best possible lynch here From a mafia VA standpoint it would fit. The first two quotes aren't great reasons to townread him. The third quote would need to be re-evaluated after BF arguably tries to appease JAT (which is admittedly how I took it). | ||
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On June 13 2015 23:05 justanothertownie wrote: Also his "this is 2 town fighting" comment about me and bf smells like agenda if boxerfred is scum. There was no reason at all to assume that it was 2 town fighting. That and the fact that (based on the comment regarding Mig being mafia) his opinion on bf is unchanged in light of what's happening with bf. A lot of things, maybe he's re-evaluating stuff and we can't tell but there are definitely gaps in why he'd think bf is town in what happened after your argument. | ||
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On June 13 2015 22:01 prplhz wrote: did kita ever smurf? Ergh. I just saw this actually. Regardless of who the smurf actually is, are you interested in Salty being mafia? Especially over the others being discussed? Why? | ||
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FF at least based on Carnaval (he was mafia) did a lot of shitposting which is stack contrast to this game. | ||
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BF is still the common denominator in all of this, I feel, as most likely to be mafia. | ||
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On June 14 2015 00:27 NaCl`y wrote: Can you explain why? In his last game he struggled to even make a case to save himself. In ippo he didn't particularly scum read anyone and got called out by numerous people on night 1. This game he has made cases and appeared quite towny. Not to mention it would be another scum game in a row where I'd theorise his effort would be quite minimal. I'm assuming this question is aimed at me. Again my memory is offhand so I'd really need to look at the filter again, but I honestly did not remember his getting called out N1. I was disinclined to think he was scum based on Carnaval, the shitposting contrast is obvious, but in Ippo I thought he might have been cruising partially because of the inactives around him (yamato, vivax, etc.) prior to the track. If others did call him out then, I do stand corrected. | ||
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On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote: And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it. I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative. | ||
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On June 14 2015 00:47 NaCl`y wrote: I would say it's the complete opposite since he was scum read every time he was mafia and town read when he was town. I am pretty sure he is town so I'd rather people follow my read for end game if needs be than yours since yours doesn't seem to have any game relevant basis for your read. If you do not trust that, I will inevitably flip soon and you can trust it then. I don't know about that. The downside with my reading FF is that I was hosting or co-hosting the 2 recent games he was mafia so I've never actually developed a natural read on FF when he was mafia. I have scumread FF when he was town in titantic 7 citing major gaps in his reads, and FF was scumread in Carol by myself and others prior to what was inferred as a green check on him. Those are just examples, but my point is I'm not sure your argument holds entirely there. All that said though I'm sure FF is town based on the information I have in front of me now, it wouldn't surprise me again if I was wrong since I haven't had a great track record reading him. | ||
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On June 14 2015 00:54 VayneAuthority wrote: I still do not think boxerfred is mafia so im going to stand by the belief that some one active here is mafia as I townread most of the others, (HTS, prphlz, fecal) Can you explain why you think he's town or why your read hadn't changed given his repsonse to JAT/Salty last cycle and the responses he's given before he AFKed for the weekend? | ||
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Here's where I stand. BF is likely one of the two mafia remaining, and I stand by that especially given the last few points of contention within the last cycle. He didn't answer JAT as to why fuba was mafia when the time appeared to be there and I thought his response to JAT was poor when JAT unvoted him. You take that and on top of everything else said - the TMI, the voteswitching, etc. and he's the best play. Continuing... | ||
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I know Mig disputed the manner of voting part, so I will also go back and re-read his progression leading up to the part Yamato was lynched, | ||
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On June 14 2015 22:34 boxerfred wrote: Who was never pressured by JAT? JAT's townread me nearly the whole time, if not the whole time, and FF he has previously pushed for being lurky but he was at the bottom of the potential mafia pile, though both Salty and I have disputed the lurkiness, I felt it was not alignment indicative after looking games up in the database. At some point I believe he's scumread everyone else. | ||
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