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On June 06 2015 15:59 fuba wrote:Sorry, I was really out of it today. First, regarding the claims... I can't find a reason to really disbelieve NaCl's claim. Was at least leaning town on him before it (mostly because of the case that people seem to agree seems accurate, though I haven't had the time to look into mig's previous games myself). That being said, I can't really decide what to make of Artanis's claim. My instinct is to believe him, though that instinct has bitten me in the ass before. Like prplhz said, his story does have a consistency to it that leads me to believe he's telling the truth. The fact that prplhz's view suddenly seemed to flip on the subject makes me... uncomfortable. Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote:On June 05 2015 18:10 Mig wrote:
boxerfred what do you think of me? Fecal?
Is your vote for yamato a serious one? You believe he's most likely to be scum just because he voted you? No thought on you or fecal thus far On yamato? Given that he lurks, only to make a vote on me, only to leave another short, lurky comment? Yeah could very well be. That's not too solid however. I tend to no-vote currently. I think I'd prefer to lynch this guy. Gives reasons to see yamato as scummy>says yamato could be scummy>backs off on it>prefers no-lynch over guy he thinks could be scum. I mean, I understand wishy-washiness better than anyone, but he definitely seems to just be coasting by. Like... if he'd really given enough thought to preferring a no-lynch over a yamato lynch, why didn't he then switch his vote? He seems to just be saying things to say things, giving the appearance of participation, and disappearing. ##Vote boxerfredGotta get some sleep, but I'll get up an hour or two early to read/talk.
Sure, there's a town narrative that fits for Artanis[Xp] but not if you consider that he's Artanis[Xp]. Artanis[Xp] hasn't been lynched in like 15 town games. Survived or night killed every single one of them. Is that because he pulls shit like this as town? Or is it because his town is extremely solid and he can rely on just playing normally to not get lynched? How do you reconcile Artanis[Xp]'s meta of never getting lynched as town with his behavior this game? Do you think this is the behavior of someone who never gets lynched?
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@fuba What do you think about marvellosity's read on boxerfred?
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like, fuba coming in here with nothing but an inconsistent artanis read and a scum read on the new guy who talks funny is seriously underwhelming
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On June 06 2015 17:05 Mig wrote:
prplhz if for some reason you didn't lynch artanis who would be your second option?
why are you asking me that
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On June 06 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
if it's gonna tell us mafia KP is 1, i think we can be told what that means in precise terms
probably means mafia factional kp is 1? setup is closed so i doubt you'll get much more out of bugs
anyway, OP says that questions should be PMd and questions in thread will be ignored
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On June 07 2015 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 00:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 07 2015 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 00:04 fuba wrote:
Also a little strange that JAT didn't incredibly hate the part of my post where I said I believe artanis's claim, given that he thinks the claim to be the most obviously false thing in the game. Yeah, so strange. Or maybe it is not strange because I didn't call out anybody else for it either and there have been plenty of people trying to justify it (and people really should be since lynching a claimed JK IS a big deal - if you analyse the whole claim/read my case there shouldn't be any doubt though). Being wrong does not make anyone mafia on its own. You're claiming you have no doubt? You believe I'm flipping mafia 100% of the time? Really? Let's say 95 % of the time.
On June 07 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
##Unvote
Yes, marv might be mafia. Gonna read you yamato bit now.
what happened in those 30 minutes that made you go from 95% to unvote
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On June 07 2015 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 03:58 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 00:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 07 2015 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 00:04 fuba wrote:
Also a little strange that JAT didn't incredibly hate the part of my post where I said I believe artanis's claim, given that he thinks the claim to be the most obviously false thing in the game. Yeah, so strange. Or maybe it is not strange because I didn't call out anybody else for it either and there have been plenty of people trying to justify it (and people really should be since lynching a claimed JK IS a big deal - if you analyse the whole claim/read my case there shouldn't be any doubt though). Being wrong does not make anyone mafia on its own. You're claiming you have no doubt? You believe I'm flipping mafia 100% of the time? Really? Let's say 95 % of the time. On June 07 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
##Unvote
Yes, marv might be mafia. Gonna read you yamato bit now. what happened in those 30 minutes that made you go from 95% to unvote Is this a serious question?
yes
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On June 07 2015 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:14 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 03:58 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 00:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 07 2015 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 00:04 fuba wrote:
Also a little strange that JAT didn't incredibly hate the part of my post where I said I believe artanis's claim, given that he thinks the claim to be the most obviously false thing in the game. Yeah, so strange. Or maybe it is not strange because I didn't call out anybody else for it either and there have been plenty of people trying to justify it (and people really should be since lynching a claimed JK IS a big deal - if you analyse the whole claim/read my case there shouldn't be any doubt though). Being wrong does not make anyone mafia on its own. You're claiming you have no doubt? You believe I'm flipping mafia 100% of the time? Really? Let's say 95 % of the time. On June 07 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
##Unvote
Yes, marv might be mafia. Gonna read you yamato bit now. what happened in those 30 minutes that made you go from 95% to unvote Is this a serious question? yes So you missed that NaCl unclaimed? Am I supposed to believe this?
so that's the only reason you went from 95% to unvote? the unclaim?
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it's in 3.5 hours? i thought it was in like 24 hours lol
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Okay justanothertownie.
So your scum read on Artanis[Xp] is almost solely based on him being counterclaimed by NaCl`y. You do not believe there can be two protective roles in this game so one of them has to be scum and it's probably not the counter claimer. This is your reasoning. Then why do you
On June 06 2015 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
i really dont see whats so unbelievable about jailkeeper/doctor tbh. if there is another blue then it is pretty ridiculous but just the 2 on their own is not a big deal. I would probably give mafia something like roleblocker/vig and call it a day. Btw. concerning this: If there you are another blue - DO NOT CLAIM. We will lynch Artanis without the need for another claim.
say that no one else should counter claim? It seems like you're either seriously considering that there could be more than one protective role, while also wanting to lynch Artanis[Xp] because you don't think there could be another blue?
Also your reaction to NaCl`y's unclaim doesn't really fit with
On June 06 2015 10:56 justanothertownie wrote:
If NaCl ever rescinds his claim later he will be lynched though. If you counterclaimed as VT or something like this stop it immediately.
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but you just fucking said the exact opposite
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and no you didn't say "unclaim immediately"
if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched"
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On June 07 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:52 prplhz wrote:
but you just fucking said the exact opposite No, it literally didn't.
i asked you why you went from 95% sure to unvoted and you said because the counterclaim was rescinded. so your scum read was based almost exclusively on the counterclaim.
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On June 07 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:53 prplhz wrote:
and no you didn't say "unclaim immediately"
if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched" You should read and try to understand the whole post before you accuse me of something stupid.
it's 1 fucking sentence, there's no hidden meaning. "if you unclaim, you will be lynched". that is what you say. what the fuck?
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On June 07 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:54 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:52 prplhz wrote:
but you just fucking said the exact opposite No, it literally didn't. i asked you why you went from 95% sure to unvoted and you said because the counterclaim was rescinded. so your scum read was based almost exclusively on the counterclaim. Nope. Incorrect conclusion.
Nope, correct conclusion.
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On June 07 2015 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:55 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:53 prplhz wrote:
and no you didn't say "unclaim immediately"
if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched" You should read and try to understand the whole post before you accuse me of something stupid. it's 1 fucking sentence, there's no hidden meaning. "if you unclaim, you will be lynched". that is what you say. what the fuck? I said "if you unclaim LATER you will be lynched" and then I say "if you are doing this as VT stop it immediately". Are you really unable to read?
and then he proceeded to claim earlier or what?
also, can you cut the dumb attitude you're sporting? it's not becoming and frankly sort of ridiculous.
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On June 07 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:59 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:55 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:53 prplhz wrote:
and no you didn't say "unclaim immediately"
if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched" You should read and try to understand the whole post before you accuse me of something stupid. it's 1 fucking sentence, there's no hidden meaning. "if you unclaim, you will be lynched". that is what you say. what the fuck? I said "if you unclaim LATER you will be lynched" and then I say "if you are doing this as VT stop it immediately". Are you really unable to read? and then he proceeded to claim earlier or what? also, can you cut the dumb attitude you're sporting? it's not becoming and frankly sort of ridiculous. You are being ridiculous and dumb and I will call what you are doing ridiculous and dumb if you keep it up. Understanding what I did is not exactly rocket science. I will some it up for you once again because you have such a hard time reading my posts: I scumread Artanis for two things: 1) His unbelievable claim/my doubts that he would do it as town. 2) The cc. Without the cc this is not enough to lynch him as potential JK. He could just have a terrible game. I said if NaCl unclaims LATER as in AFTER WE LYNCH ARTANIS he will get lynched and that he should unclaim immediately if he is VT. He did unclaim immediately so there is no problem. It is not hard to understand why there is a difference between unclaiming now and later, right? I said blues should not counterclaim because I was pretty certain that I could lynch Artanis without that. Where exactly is your problem with any of that?
95% to unvote. that's a pretty long distance. so your scum read on him was based almost solely on counterclaim, because the counterclaim rescind was what made you go from 95% to unvote. yes.
how can you not understand that it's confusing that you type "later" but you don't mean "later" as in "later" but instead you mean something else? the "stop counterclaming immediately this game" doesn't even make sense because he already counterclaimed, he can't stop counterclaiming. only thing he can do is rescind. i don't know why you think that me reading your post the way you type it warrants some dumb attitude. i can totally see where artanis is coming from on that.
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On June 07 2015 05:19 Mig wrote:
Prplhz and jta if either of you are town smh
Prplhz either vote for him or quit clogging up the thread fuck.
can you please explain what is wrong with anything i've said about jta
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