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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 13 2015 00:40 GMT
#1981
The first scenario proposed was me and boxer scum team lol. You seem to want to paint every comment I make as scummy.

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 13 2015 00:40 GMT
#1982
On June 13 2015 09:08 Mig wrote:
I defended fuba and tried to get bf lynched and everyone's first thought is oh obvious boxer/mig scum team bussing each other for credit! Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

I guess thats why boxer came up with all the shit about how me and jat cant be the same alignment etc.

Maybe you guys should actually consider the possibility that you were wrong about me?

Vayne looks pretty terrible btw

What makes vayne look terrible to you specifically?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 13 2015 00:44 GMT
#1983
On my phone but his last comment seemed a bit like he might have expected fuba to flip town.

From my memory he has only pushed townies, his comments concerning yam were weak. Also nobody has tried to really push for his lynch, normally he's an easy target for mafia to push when he lurks this hard.

I guess boxer did post something about vayne earlier. I would lynch boxer before vayne but he should be discussed. Especially if boxer is just going to be gone.
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NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 00:44 GMT
#1984
On June 13 2015 09:40 Mig wrote:
The first scenario proposed was me and boxer scum team lol. You seem to want to paint every comment I make as scummy.

So it's one of the towny people or it's boxer/mig and boxer wanted mig to bus him for cred?



That's simply not true. Either way you think justanothertownie is mafia so the second scenario just doesn't apply.

Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 13 2015 00:47 GMT
#1985
So who do you think the 2 mafia are nac?
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NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 00:58 GMT
#1986
I'm not sure yet, I've been pretty busy/detached the last few cycles and need to reevaluate.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:34 GMT
#1987
Actions are due to both myself and Onegu within . A one hour night action resolution period follows, and the day post will be live at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 13 2015 10:18 GMT
#1988
If boxerfred is town we will lose this game.
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 12:49 GMT
#1989
On June 13 2015 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If boxerfred is town we will lose this game.


That's not true at all, there's still another cycle after that!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 13 2015 13:01 GMT
#1990
did kita ever smurf?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:37 GMT
#1991
On June 13 2015 06:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw. I don't know why but the whole incident makes Mig look towny to me.


depends on fuba's flip. i think boxer is town so it makes him look incredibly mafia from my point of view trying to kill off both of them at the same time because thats exactly what mafia needs right now


Regarding Mig's concern re VA having TMI, I can see this both ways after reading it a few times. He does qualify with "depends..." but then that second sentence the way it's phrased is bad. Looking at the sentence alone, I'd be more inclined to dismiss against TMI if he'd said somewhere in there "if fuba is town...".

But the other argument in VA's favour just looking at this sentence is that the hypothetical scum Mig would want a double lynch and the (previously discussed) point that a townie shouldn't take a risky chance where both could be town and wind up in lylo.

I remember some random comment VA said about "mig train choo choo" but I didn't think too much of it then, might have to check how that came about.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:38 GMT
#1992
Basically depending on how you read it, I can see both a town and mafia VA making that statement.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:40 GMT
#1993
The other thing to check into though is bf/va interactions and the read on bf.

I know FF criticised a "softball" question from bf to va, and bf pushed va on his lurkiness.

I could be wrong but I don't recall va answering the question either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 13:44 GMT
#1994
If bf is mafia, va is likely his partner because of the push bf never continued to follow up on. This was unlike his justanothertownie push where he didn't drop it. It's basically all in that post I made.
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 13:46 GMT
#1995
On June 11 2015 09:46 NaCl`y wrote:
Rest in peace, dear marvellosity!

##vote boxerfred

I know I made a lot of posts on Fuba being mafia and honestly he probably still is mafia! There is now someone else that I have a greater passion for lynching. Boxerfred.

This is because of quite a few reasons and all of them are backed up simply by reading the game so I'll make this short and quoteless due to a lack of time.

Day 1:
Boxerfred's play can be summarised on day 1 as simply going from clueless and spreading feelers in directions (such as on yamato briefly etc) to full on try hard and associative based on Yamato77 flipping mafia before he actually has (most damning). He also says Justanothertownie is his top town read going into night 1 for his reaction to the Artanis[Xp] situation etc. I feel like this was a disingenuous flip of "ability" to read people that simply didn't fit with his earlier playstyle. It conveniently kicked in when it was decided Yamato77 was the lynch anyway.

Day 2:
Boxerfred meekly pushes VayneAuthority and is quite happy to use any excuse whatsoever to just disappear from it when provided with little evidence:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 19:33 boxerfred wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:29 boxerfred wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:27 boxerfred wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:23 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:22 boxerfred wrote:
On June 09 2015 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
the *point* is that you made the point about Chez *because* I questioned you on Vayne, so you turned it around to people talking or backing off Chez

one caused the other

No. I did not make a point. I simply wrote about a fucking filter observation not coming to any conclusion or point. I came to that conclusion when you asked your questions 2 minutes ago. stop reading stuff into my posts that is not there.

You made the fucking point to deflect off me questioning you on Vayne

I don't see any reason to unvote someone who is not replying to pressure. Like, you all went on the Chez train because "oh he's not here" and now that he's here you start saying "nah he doesn't look so scummy anyways". I might do the same depending on his replies but as long as there are no replies, well why should I change my stance?


"why would I unvote Vayne? Here! Look at what you guys are doing with Chez!"

that was precisely your defence here.

What the fuck. So I explained thoroughly why I am voting Vayne. Of course I am showing what you guys are doing on Chez since I feel like noone even cares to look at my points on Vayne. Did you even check my points on Vayne by now? No? Cool shit.

I distinctly remember telling you that VA doing jackshit does not make him scum and that he tends to not give a fuck as town.

I distinctly remember that I played one game of Mafia thus far here and can't tell if you're right.

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5 minutes of your time to confirm/deny jat

Wow, such small filters.
##unvote

Yes, it's a quote. I lied earlier. He then jumps on Chezinu because it was what everyone else was doing. Suddenly, Boxerfred makes a big case on Justanothertownie being mafia which contained all of the posts that Boxerfred said made Justanothertownie his top town on day 1. Note earlier when he dropped his VayneAuthority read based on people giving evidence to the opposite? Now this is not the case for Justanothertownie.



Unfortunately I can't finish this due to time, will continue later.



Everything day 2 onwards that implicates them being together.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:49 GMT
#1996
Random sidenote going through bf's filter again - if people were worried about his activity this weekend I don't think it's getting better after the weekend ends:

On June 05 2015 07:03 boxerfred wrote:
Just in case: on june 16th, I'll have my final oral exam. I might turn up drunk if I pass. Also, if I don't pass.


On June 05 2015 07:04 boxerfred wrote:
ebwop: june 19th

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:51 GMT
#1997
Anyways yeh I see your quote there Salty, I also want to check into how va's read on bf originated/progressed, I think it was because of that jat/bf argument about the one-liners case, etc etc but there is overwhleming evidence against bf even from the off and I don't recall that factored into the read (or why it was weaker compared to the interaction) one way or another.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:53 GMT
#1998
EBWOP - I think VA townread bf based on the JAT/BF interaction
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 13:56 GMT
#1999
Oh shit. Read your case again. To sum up your case Salty on BF, basically he's guilty of double standards that he applies to JAT but not to VA.

I would agree that is a problem.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 14:02 GMT
#2000
On June 10 2015 00:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
boxerfred reminds me of my towngame a lot when i first started here so maybe im biased in thinking he is a duck duck goose town member


On June 11 2015 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
fuba is fine, wouldnt lynch boxer. putting him under too naive and troll to be scum for better or worse


The third quote here being after the JAT/BT argument (page 90)

On June 11 2015 23:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
honestly it looks like town on town to me, i think fuba would be the best possible lynch here


From a mafia VA standpoint it would fit. The first two quotes aren't great reasons to townread him. The third quote would need to be re-evaluated after BF arguably tries to appease JAT (which is admittedly how I took it).
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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