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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:47 GMT
#2021
On June 14 2015 00:44 NaCl`y wrote:
Is that an answer to my query? Who I am is not relevant to this game. I will very likely die tonight and will reveal post game.

It is very relevant. Yeah, let's hope you die tonight then.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 15:47 GMT
#2022
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 15:50 GMT
#2023
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:50 GMT
#2024
On June 14 2015 00:47 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I would say it's the complete opposite since he was scum read every time he was mafia and town read when he was town. I am pretty sure he is town so I'd rather people follow my read for end game if needs be than yours since yours doesn't seem to have any game relevant basis for your read. If you do not trust that, I will inevitably flip soon and you can trust it then.

He was widely townread in Ippo.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:51 GMT
#2025
On June 14 2015 00:50 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.

Let's be honest. Making a case on boxerfred is not hard to do. But fine, it is not like I want to lynch him tomorrow anyways.
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 15:52 GMT
#2026
On June 14 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:47 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I would say it's the complete opposite since he was scum read every time he was mafia and town read when he was town. I am pretty sure he is town so I'd rather people follow my read for end game if needs be than yours since yours doesn't seem to have any game relevant basis for your read. If you do not trust that, I will inevitably flip soon and you can trust it then.

He was widely townread in Ippo.


That's simply not true in the slightest. Damdred made a case on Fecalfeast night 1, marvellosity had agreed with it. He was tracked because he was scummy and people agreed with Damdred's posts on fecal. Perhaps you should read night 1 again.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:53 GMT
#2027
And "he could not make a case to save himself" - are you talking about the game where he was basically confirmed scum because bunnies did not vote him and rsoultin was in full bus mode?
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 15:53 GMT
#2028
On June 14 2015 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:50 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.

Let's be honest. Making a case on boxerfred is not hard to do. But fine, it is not like I want to lynch him tomorrow anyways.


There is a stark contrast between his games. I get the feeling that you are setting him up for lylo to be lynched, especially as you have no content based reason to have any doubts about him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:54 GMT
#2029
On June 14 2015 00:52 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:47 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I would say it's the complete opposite since he was scum read every time he was mafia and town read when he was town. I am pretty sure he is town so I'd rather people follow my read for end game if needs be than yours since yours doesn't seem to have any game relevant basis for your read. If you do not trust that, I will inevitably flip soon and you can trust it then.

He was widely townread in Ippo.


That's simply not true in the slightest. Damdred made a case on Fecalfeast night 1, marvellosity had agreed with it. He was tracked because he was scummy and people agreed with Damdred's posts on fecal. Perhaps you should read night 1 again.

HF (scum, I know) made a list putting him in the highest town category and marv/me/other people agreed with it day1.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 13 2015 15:54 GMT
#2030
It's true I look pretty bad this game I can't deny that, although I usually lurk there is few games where I actively play badly as town so I apologize. I would argue that both chezinu and fuba were both people tthat had a higher chance to flip mafia then town so I defend my choices here.

I still do not think boxerfred is mafia so im going to stand by the belief that some one active here is mafia as I townread most of the others, (HTS, prphlz, fecal)
I come in for the scraps
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 15:54 GMT
#2031
On June 14 2015 00:47 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I would say it's the complete opposite since he was scum read every time he was mafia and town read when he was town. I am pretty sure he is town so I'd rather people follow my read for end game if needs be than yours since yours doesn't seem to have any game relevant basis for your read. If you do not trust that, I will inevitably flip soon and you can trust it then.


I don't know about that. The downside with my reading FF is that I was hosting or co-hosting the 2 recent games he was mafia so I've never actually developed a natural read on FF when he was mafia. I have scumread FF when he was town in titantic 7 citing major gaps in his reads, and FF was scumread in Carol by myself and others prior to what was inferred as a green check on him. Those are just examples, but my point is I'm not sure your argument holds entirely there.

All that said though I'm sure FF is town based on the information I have in front of me now, it wouldn't surprise me again if I was wrong since I haven't had a great track record reading him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:55 GMT
#2032
On June 14 2015 00:53 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:50 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.

Let's be honest. Making a case on boxerfred is not hard to do. But fine, it is not like I want to lynch him tomorrow anyways.


There is a stark contrast between his games. I get the feeling that you are setting him up for lylo to be lynched, especially as you have no content based reason to have any doubts about him.

What kind of bullshit is that? I have no content based reason to townread him so obviously I have reason to doubt him. I have reason to doubt everyone that is not confirmed town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 15:57 GMT
#2033
On June 14 2015 00:53 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:50 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.

Let's be honest. Making a case on boxerfred is not hard to do. But fine, it is not like I want to lynch him tomorrow anyways.


There is a stark contrast between his games. I get the feeling that you are setting him up for lylo to be lynched, especially as you have no content based reason to have any doubts about him.

Are you seriously flipping your read on me because I am not agreeing with your FF townread?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 16:01 GMT
#2034
Anyways, I am leaving now and probably won't be back before deadline. Should I die give not salty a free pass - if he is alive in LYLO you should get really fucking paranoid.
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 16:02 GMT
#2035
On June 14 2015 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:53 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:50 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.

Let's be honest. Making a case on boxerfred is not hard to do. But fine, it is not like I want to lynch him tomorrow anyways.


There is a stark contrast between his games. I get the feeling that you are setting him up for lylo to be lynched, especially as you have no content based reason to have any doubts about him.

Are you seriously flipping your read on me because I am not agreeing with your FF townread?


I find it highly strange that you are unable to read his filter and come to any decisive conclusion yourself yet you are able to do so with prplhz. It just seems extremely odd that your reads on mig have changed for little reason and were the opposite to my reaction of fuba flipping town. Your reactions feel very off to me and it's as if you'd rather keep scum reads open than try and figure out whether the person is town or not.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 16:05 GMT
#2036
On June 14 2015 01:02 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:53 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:50 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 14 2015 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And since FF apparently thinks scum is more fun than town I would not expect his effort to minimal. You can make the argument that he was townier/did more in his scumgames but that's basically it.


I think Salty is alluding more to the quality of FF's posting rather than the quantity here, even I said last cycle that his filter size is not alignment indicative.


Precisely. In his mafia games they have been devoid of content. He even struggled to make basic cases to save himself in Carnival. Here he has made a giant case on Boxerfred when he did not need to and has been generally quite towny in his posts.

Let's be honest. Making a case on boxerfred is not hard to do. But fine, it is not like I want to lynch him tomorrow anyways.


There is a stark contrast between his games. I get the feeling that you are setting him up for lylo to be lynched, especially as you have no content based reason to have any doubts about him.

Are you seriously flipping your read on me because I am not agreeing with your FF townread?


I find it highly strange that you are unable to read his filter and come to any decisive conclusion yourself yet you are able to do so with prplhz. It just seems extremely odd that your reads on mig have changed for little reason and were the opposite to my reaction of fuba flipping town. Your reactions feel very off to me and it's as if you'd rather keep scum reads open than try and figure out whether the person is town or not.


How can you even compare FF to prplhz? Prplhz is a fucking pussy as mafia and generally really bad at playing scum. I can't say that about FF.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 16:10 GMT
#2037
On June 14 2015 00:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
I still do not think boxerfred is mafia so im going to stand by the belief that some one active here is mafia as I townread most of the others, (HTS, prphlz, fecal)


Can you explain why you think he's town or why your read hadn't changed given his repsonse to JAT/Salty last cycle and the responses he's given before he AFKed for the weekend?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 13 2015 16:11 GMT
#2038
I'm off on a dinner date, I should be back before EoN.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 13 2015 16:22 GMT
#2039
On June 11 2015 03:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
What argument? I made a comment about how I'm not the only lurker.

Implying that it means it wouldn't be scummy for you to do it. Which isn't true.

Do you have evidence that I lurk more as scum than I do as town? Am I lurking more than my normal town game? You're just saying I'm scummy because you don't feel like developing a read on me and that's not ok.
On June 11 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 03:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:20 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:11 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't think he's actually suspicious of me. Seems like everyone is just keeping me on the backburner as usual


He's called you a lurker at least, what, three times now? Or useless or however he's phrasing it?

As the only lurker in this game, oh wait...

So what if there are other lurkers? The argument "but those other guys are as guilty as me" is something that mafia makes all the fucking time. And who are you even talking about?

fuba mig Va off the top of my head.

I said my part about mig and fuba/VA are known lurkers who do it every single game regardless of alignment. So your argument is invalid.


Alright JAT, so then (based on my previous question) am I correct here in saying that your primary argument against FF is his lurkiness?

I don't know if it is the primary argument. Primary would be that he just is not towny/I can't remember even a single good thing he said. The only thing I remember is what other people said ABOUT him and his willingness to shenannie for no reason.

Wow nvm I don't even want you to town read me you haven't even looked at the filter of someone you call scummy.


This is by far and large still wholly accurate.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 13 2015 21:27 GMT
#2040
On June 11 2015 03:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 03:20 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:11 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 11 2015 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't think he's actually suspicious of me. Seems like everyone is just keeping me on the backburner as usual


He's called you a lurker at least, what, three times now? Or useless or however he's phrasing it?

As the only lurker in this game, oh wait...

So what if there are other lurkers? The argument "but those other guys are as guilty as me" is something that mafia makes all the fucking time. And who are you even talking about?

fuba mig Va off the top of my head.

I said my part about mig and fuba/VA are known lurkers who do it every single game regardless of alignment. So your argument is invalid.


Alright JAT, so then (based on my previous question) am I correct here in saying that your primary argument against FF is his lurkiness?

I don't know if it is the primary argument. Primary would be that he just is not towny/I can't remember even a single good thing he said. The only thing I remember is what other people said ABOUT him and his willingness to shenannie for no reason.

THIS is by far and large still wholly accurate.
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