On June 10 2015 07:14 The Shining wrote:
Actually no, are there enough people here? Can we lynch one of my actual scum, BM? Pls?

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Vote: Bill Murray

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:14 GMT

#666

put your vote back on LS! BM has one vote and even if all 5 people on LS switch right now it wouldn't be enough to kill him because I'm not moving my vote

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June 09 2015 22:15 GMT

#668

On June 10 2015 07:14 batsnacks wrote:

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Your confirmation bias is really, really strong dude. LS is AT BEST %30 chance of flipping scum.

maybe.

Why is he not defending himself if he's town?

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:16 GMT

#671

certainly if he thinks that stutters is "the best lynch" he wouldn't be merely wasting his vote here. He'd be trying to establish his own innocence, he'd be trying to convince other people of his own scumreads.

He has no scumreads to speak of. That's incredible, given that day 1 is almost ending and everyone in the game has posted except stutters. How can anyone have no scumreads at this point?

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:17 GMT

#675

On June 10 2015 07:15 FreezingFoot wrote:

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On June 10 2015 07:07 wherebugsgo wrote:

On June 10 2015 07:03 FreezingFoot wrote:

On June 10 2015 07:01 Kickstart wrote:
This is a fucking disaster though, people taking hard line "I refuse to vote ____" when its majority lynch.

Maybe because I prefer a no lynch than lynching a coinflip?

I've already told who I want to kill. Bill or Shockey. I'm not voting anyone else.

I want to lynch Bill too.

But let's talk about Shockey. He's probably not scum, and even if he is he's definitely not a good lynch today. his entrance into the thread was pretty good, and in particular his reaction here:

On June 10 2015 04:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:

On June 10 2015 03:38 FreezingFoot wrote:

On June 10 2015 03:36 Bill Murray wrote:

On June 10 2015 03:35 FreezingFoot wrote:

On June 10 2015 03:31 Bill Murray wrote:
1) WIFOM
(pg 3 of your filter regarding another player)
2) excuses
(bottom of page 2)
3) admitting to scumskimming
(same post at end of page 2 of your filter)

On June 09 2015 13:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
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##Vote:Shockey

I've being extremely busy today. Just got home.

Did a quick skim in the thread. I've read bugs spread sheet and his reads felt genuine (with the exception of Breshke), reevaluating most of them accordingly to thread progression + I'm not willing to lynch the biggest filter day1 + him being upset with lack of activity feels true (I don't think scum would fuck off like he did when he is the main wagon). He may still be scum but this is enough to let him live another day. We already have a lot of information from him and we can deal with him later, if that is the case. I prefer to have him around day2 than any other scummy person who has few to almost no post at all.

4) in this post, you also decide to VOTE before you even add reasoning

it's like your reasoning is merely a facade

Wow. Can you get any worse than this?

All you've posted here are contrived shit. The ONLY quote you've posted was to say something completely stupid. And even if you really believe in this "you voted first" shit, if you really scum read me you should KNOW I already called Shockey out before.

Lol you're scum.

its the excuse to leave and the way you "did a quick skim of the thread"

Town doesnt skim, they read.

Shockey clearly hasn't read the thread. Why is he town and I'm scum then?

Wut? I read thread day and night when I have a chance, this means even while I'm taking a shit in the bathroom. Just cause I post very little doesn't mean I'm not reading. Posting takes up a lot of time and effort to try and put together something at least coherent. Wether you like to understand what I'm posting is entirely up to you. I post when I get the chance and when I do post, I have at least read and reread the thread multiple times.

in particular the bolded-the tone of posting and the indignance with which he defends himself is not a scum trait. I don't think he's the best bet to be scum after he responded like that.

The problem with this town read of yours is that it's basically a gut read rather than an objective analysis of his lackluster play in this game. Tone reads are weak.

Did you read what I've posted about him before?

where is your evidence for tone reads being weak? It's not a gut read. It's how most scum and most town play. I can make it more concrete but I don't have the time to dig through Shockey's posts right now. Not that this actually matters, since he's not even a viable alternative with 40 minutes to go.

BM is our only viable alternative and he's probably not going to die

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:18 GMT

#677

also now is not the time to be waffling on reads. If I am wrong about LS we'll find out soon enough, but I highly doubt I am wrong given how fucking hard this lynch is

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:19 GMT

#678

also if we no lynch we potentially waste the day.

A single townie forcing a no-lynch takes some serious balls but I would expect them to back it up. and if they don't I will probably tunnel the shit out of them

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:19 GMT

#683

On June 10 2015 07:19 Bill Murray wrote:
just waiting on you to apologize to me

aww I'm sowwy Bill Murray

can we be friends now?

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June 09 2015 22:21 GMT

#686

On June 10 2015 07:19 batsnacks wrote:

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Why is he not defending himself if he's mafia? Anyway he sort of is defending himself. Like yes he could be mafia but it's not as likely as you seem to think.

bad mafia don't know how to defend themselves.

I've been in scum teams where I told people to fuck off and let me handle getting the lynch off of them because every time they post they manage to sink themselves further

Often times when a death is inevitable it is better for scum to disappear and hope they survive instead of incriminating themselves even more. They've already incriminated themselves so hard they're on the chopping block. Any further slips and they're liable to die

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:22 GMT

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however I would fully expect townies to defend themselves EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Not defending cannot possibly be a town trait. He didn't explicitly give up or ragequit, which might actually lead me to think I would be wrong. His reaction has been the same every single time with no escalation of emotion.

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:23 GMT

#692

I really hope I am not wrong here...

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June 09 2015 22:23 GMT

#693

On June 10 2015 07:22 batsnacks wrote:

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LS isn't bad mafia and he didn't disappear.

if he didn't disappear where is he now?

wherebugsgo

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June 09 2015 22:23 GMT

#695

also, I highly doubt anyone in this game knows what good mafia looks like. I don't think this forum has had a good mafia player since the likes of BC or Ace