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On June 10 2015 04:59 batsnacks wrote:
I think we should all vote stutters unless he comes back and towns himself. If stutters does come back to town himself we can switch to LS at the last minute. This plan assumes town is cool enough to not afk and accidentally no lynch.
Why do you make a case on Bill Murray but proposes a lynch on two different people?
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On June 10 2015 05:05 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 05:01 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 04:59 batsnacks wrote:
I think we should all vote stutters unless he comes back and towns himself. If stutters does come back to town himself we can switch to LS at the last minute. This plan assumes town is cool enough to not afk and accidentally no lynch. Why do you make a case on Bill Murray but proposes a lynch on two different people? My bill case relies on unflipped associations. I think bugs could be mafia for what bm said and I think bm could be mafia for what I said but I don't want to lynch either of them over stutters and LS is being weird.
Your case actually relies on meta. Also, if you think that case is weak or flawed, why even posting when Bill is under suspicions but backtracking right after?
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Dude, LS, wtf are you doing?
God this game.
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On June 10 2015 05:33 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 05:29 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 05:17 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 05:05 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 05:01 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 04:59 batsnacks wrote:
I think we should all vote stutters unless he comes back and towns himself. If stutters does come back to town himself we can switch to LS at the last minute. This plan assumes town is cool enough to not afk and accidentally no lynch. Why do you make a case on Bill Murray but proposes a lynch on two different people? My bill case relies on unflipped associations. I think bugs could be mafia for what bm said and I think bm could be mafia for what I said but I don't want to lynch either of them over stutters and LS is being weird. Your case actually relies on meta. Also, if you think that case is weak or flawed, why even posting when Bill is under suspicions but backtracking right after? Yes meta and unflipped associations. I said bill as mafia likes to make big, possibly high risk, high reward plays. If you and bugs are town, that would qualify. I do not know that you and bugs are town, in fact I wouldn't be shocked if bugs were mafia for what bill said. I did think the case was worth posting though. I was also thinking about bill and shockey being mafia together and bill going out on a huge limb to push obvious townies and save obvious scums but again... Unflipped associations and not worth voting on.
I also thought this, and I think you also has a good shot on being mafia with them because you refuse to lynch one of those two.
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Dude there are PLENTY of better options than lynching stutters today. PLENTY.
What the fuck are you doing?
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On June 10 2015 05:39 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 05:35 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 05:33 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 05:29 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 05:17 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 05:05 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 05:01 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 04:59 batsnacks wrote:
I think we should all vote stutters unless he comes back and towns himself. If stutters does come back to town himself we can switch to LS at the last minute. This plan assumes town is cool enough to not afk and accidentally no lynch. Why do you make a case on Bill Murray but proposes a lynch on two different people? My bill case relies on unflipped associations. I think bugs could be mafia for what bm said and I think bm could be mafia for what I said but I don't want to lynch either of them over stutters and LS is being weird. Your case actually relies on meta. Also, if you think that case is weak or flawed, why even posting when Bill is under suspicions but backtracking right after? Yes meta and unflipped associations. I said bill as mafia likes to make big, possibly high risk, high reward plays. If you and bugs are town, that would qualify. I do not know that you and bugs are town, in fact I wouldn't be shocked if bugs were mafia for what bill said. I did think the case was worth posting though. I was also thinking about bill and shockey being mafia together and bill going out on a huge limb to push obvious townies and save obvious scums but again... Unflipped associations and not worth voting on. I also thought this, and I think you also has a good shot on being mafia with them because you refuse to lynch one of those two. Brother Have you been smoking the weed?
Vote BM with me.
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Where's bugs?
I'd expect him to be angry about game but I didn't expect him to not come by deadline when he is not under pressure
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I am HIGHLY against LS since most of what you said could also come from his town meta. He is ALWAYS this passive, and I wonder
I didn't understand the self-focused point. I think the best point in your case is the part where he calls yamato scum but does nothing with it. But it also fits his passiveness as either alignment.
If you take aggressiveness alone, you should be strongly townreading BM. BM is a WAY better lynch today, seconded only by shockey
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On June 10 2015 06:54 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 06:52 FreezingFoot wrote:
I am HIGHLY against LS since most of what you said could also come from his town meta. He is ALWAYS this passive, and I wonder
I didn't understand the self-focused point. I think the best point in your case is the part where he calls yamato scum but does nothing with it. But it also fits his passiveness as either alignment.
If you take aggressiveness alone, you should be strongly townreading BM. BM is a WAY better lynch today, seconded only by shockey I don't count aggressiveness as a scum trait. BM is scum because he is pushing bad ideas and because he has a history of pushing bad lynches and being a brute as scum.
I meant that if passiveness is a scum trait, in the other hand, BM must be town under your conception.
I am totally against voting LS today.
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On June 10 2015 07:01 Kickstart wrote:
This is a fucking disaster though, people taking hard line "I refuse to vote ____" when its majority lynch.
Maybe because I prefer a no lynch than lynching a coinflip?
I've already told who I want to kill. Bill or Shockey. I'm not voting anyone else.
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On June 10 2015 07:07 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:03 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 07:01 Kickstart wrote:
This is a fucking disaster though, people taking hard line "I refuse to vote ____" when its majority lynch. Maybe because I prefer a no lynch than lynching a coinflip? I've already told who I want to kill. Bill or Shockey. I'm not voting anyone else. Scummiest post in the entire thread btw. It's a very good thing you had a strong start.
Lol k
Vote bill
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YOU ARE GOING TO MISLYNCH HIM!!!!
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FUCKING VOTE BILL MURRAY!
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On June 10 2015 07:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:03 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 07:01 Kickstart wrote:
This is a fucking disaster though, people taking hard line "I refuse to vote ____" when its majority lynch. Maybe because I prefer a no lynch than lynching a coinflip? I've already told who I want to kill. Bill or Shockey. I'm not voting anyone else. I want to lynch Bill too. But let's talk about Shockey. He's probably not scum, and even if he is he's definitely not a good lynch today. his entrance into the thread was pretty good, and in particular his reaction here: Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 10 2015 03:38 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 03:36 Bill Murray wrote:On June 10 2015 03:35 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 03:31 Bill Murray wrote:1) WIFOM (pg 3 of your filter regarding another player) 2) excuses (bottom of page 2) 3) admitting to scumskimming (same post at end of page 2 of your filter) On June 09 2015 13:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote:Shockey
I've being extremely busy today. Just got home.
Did a quick skim in the thread. I've read bugs spread sheet and his reads felt genuine (with the exception of Breshke), reevaluating most of them accordingly to thread progression + I'm not willing to lynch the biggest filter day1 + him being upset with lack of activity feels true (I don't think scum would fuck off like he did when he is the main wagon). He may still be scum but this is enough to let him live another day. We already have a lot of information from him and we can deal with him later, if that is the case. I prefer to have him around day2 than any other scummy person who has few to almost no post at all. 4) in this post, you also decide to VOTE before you even add reasoning it's like your reasoning is merely a facade Wow. Can you get any worse than this? All you've posted here are contrived shit. The ONLY quote you've posted was to say something completely stupid. And even if you really believe in this "you voted first" shit, if you really scum read me you should KNOW I already called Shockey out before. Lol you're scum. its the excuse to leave and the way you "did a quick skim of the thread" Town doesnt skim, they read. Shockey clearly hasn't read the thread. Why is he town and I'm scum then? Wut? I read thread day and night when I have a chance, this means even while I'm taking a shit in the bathroom. Just cause I post very little doesn't mean I'm not reading. Posting takes up a lot of time and effort to try and put together something at least coherent. Wether you like to understand what I'm posting is entirely up to you. I post when I get the chance and when I do post, I have at least read and reread the thread multiple times. in particular the bolded-the tone of posting and the indignance with which he defends himself is not a scum trait. I don't think he's the best bet to be scum after he responded like that.
The problem with this town read of yours is that it's basically a gut read rather than an objective analysis of his lackluster play in this game. Tone reads are weak.
Did you read what I've posted about him before?
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This is ridiculous.
BM's play is completely unnatural, forced, and completely anti-town.
Shockey's play is completely uninspiring and his inconsistencies can't come from a town perspective.
Yet the biggest wagons are null LS and modkillable Stutters. LOL.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE HERE! PLEASE VOTE BILL!!!!
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On June 10 2015 07:29 Kickstart wrote:
Also LS scum reading Bill who was the only other real possibility of getting lynched (aside form the lurkers which I asked him to ignore) is odd. In this situation as town, I pour out all my thoughts so that town has something from me to go on when I am confirmed town at the flip. Meanwhile LS just afks.
THE GUY IS THE FUCKING LYNCH FOR TODAY
IF HE IS SCUM THIS IS THE EXACT TIME HE WOULD BE DEFENDING HIMSELF TO SURVIVE
YET HE ISN'T EVEN TRYING TO DEFEND HIMSELF ARGGGGH
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Give me a SINGLE reason on why we shouldn't lynch BM. A single one.
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On June 10 2015 07:33 Kickstart wrote:
foot that makes no sense. If he is scum he would shut the fuck up and not give too much info. ESPECIALLY IF NO OTHER SCUM ARE ON HIM TO LAST MINUTE MOVE OFF. But that may or may not be the case. Anways I find his lack of giving us stuff to work with scummy (why I voted him) now that he is still not giving anything when he is set to be lynched seems even scummier to me. Maybe that is how he plays, but I find it odd and I would do the opposite.
Dude look how carelessly every other lurkers parked their vote on LS. Look how easily his wagon was formed in the end of the day. It is OBVIOUS this is a mislynch.
Look how HARD it is to get Bill lynched EVEN when EVERYTHING he does is scummy.
I find hard to believe a scum would let himself get lynched instead of fighting that lynch into someone else. I find easier to a town to just get enough of a game and simply don't give a fuck anymore, since everything he says is turning against him, anyway.
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On June 10 2015 03:27 FreezingFoot wrote:
No, really.
BM scumreads bugs with me
BM ignores the townie points I've brought on bugs
BM townreads Shockey out of NOTHING and wants to lynch coinflip stutters instead
BM scumreads me, who was scumreading bugs (his main scum read) out of a stupid association with STUTTERS.
Please. Vote this guy. It's ridiculous
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On June 10 2015 07:39 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:37 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 07:33 Kickstart wrote:
foot that makes no sense. If he is scum he would shut the fuck up and not give too much info. ESPECIALLY IF NO OTHER SCUM ARE ON HIM TO LAST MINUTE MOVE OFF. But that may or may not be the case. Anways I find his lack of giving us stuff to work with scummy (why I voted him) now that he is still not giving anything when he is set to be lynched seems even scummier to me. Maybe that is how he plays, but I find it odd and I would do the opposite. Dude look how carelessly every other lurkers parked their vote on LS. Look how easily his wagon was formed in the end of the day. It is OBVIOUS this is a mislynch. Look how HARD it is to get Bill lynched EVEN when EVERYTHING he does is scummy. I find hard to believe a scum would let himself get lynched instead of fighting that lynch into someone else. I find easier to a town to just get enough of a game and simply don't give a fuck anymore, since everything he says is turning against him, anyway. Really? Other lurkers also parked their votes on stutters. And on BM at times too! Also how do you get that expectation from this dude? Emotionally I don't get that impression from LS. Even if he did, wouldn't he provide a scumread at some point? Do you think LS's town play is so weak that he is incapable of coming up with ONE scumread in 48 hours? At various times over the past two days I've skimmed like half of his town games, and in none of them do I see a situation where he has absolutely no scumreads whatsoever. He doesn't appear to me the type of player who is wildly afraid of putting their finger of suspicion on someone like he is this game and in other games in which he has turned up scum.
LS in game of thrones mafia played similarly and got mislynched by town Holyflare who made a very convincing case on him. This IS how LS plays.
If you think BM plays suboptimally regardless of alignment, if you ACTUALLY read LS's town games, you would KNOW this is his usual gameplay. It's as suboptimally as BM's. Why the double standards?
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