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On June 05 2015 05:15 Tictock wrote: Ok Damdred let me address why I don't like your case then. Ok yes, this is a scumtell. However it also seems consistent enough that it could just be his style of writing. I'd rather give him a chance to start making better posts than lynch him today for this. This applies to a lot of people actually. In fact my biggest issue with ritoky is very similar. He hounds me for not liking one post and saying my reads are weak, but when I look at his own reads I think they are some of the more lacking this game. Humm, I should relook at that interaction, that is actually fairly scummy. I didn't look at it that way at first. Again, I'm relating this to my exchange with ritoky. I came out concluding that we dont like each other, but I'm not really seeing much scum on him. I'm not sure I agree with the rest of your points, they aren't bad but ... idk I'm getting the feeling this is similar overreacting to stuff like what happened early in the game with milo. Ehats the point of concluding someone just doesn't like you if you are scum reading them? It should 100% be that scum os trying to push a mislynch but look how kick is reacting at first. Damdred just doesn't like me. Damdred is tunneled. If he legitimately thinks I'm scum the first thought should be damdred is scum frying to lynch me the firstbtwonreactions are iinfrring I'm being bad town not scum. | ||
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Why don't you feel a ks lynch | ||
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On June 05 2015 05:41 ritoky wrote: not everyone is a busaholic like us damdred It's optimal in that situation though not unnecessary | ||
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My points had value, he did do questionable,things . Tick immediately moving to discredit someone who steeped and the leader of the wagon is interesting | ||
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A mislynch happens you don't blame people that's just silly and a discrediting tactic. Was my case bad, no. Was it wrong yes. | ||
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On June 05 2015 16:03 scott31337 wrote: Damdred posts a lot of null/blah shit when he's mafia (or town) and it's hard to distinguish which side he's on. He's more of a busser (votes for his mafia peeps) - And doesn't want to take a stance so it'll mess up his "meta" for future games. VE is a little more aggressive as town but to be honest he's a tough one to read as well. He has more of a hard-on as mafia. I do not see that as of yet. This is the largest pile of shit that anyones ever said about my game. I don't care about my meta at all, I trash my meta at all times to get wins, i'm about elevating scum game not de valuing town game. I give plenty of hard stances/opinions all of the time so don't try to explain my meta without fully understandin git | ||
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On June 05 2015 14:31 milo109 wrote: Alright, looking back I think I've focused too much on defense and not enough time pushing my reads. Here's where I'm at Chocolate Town VE Mafia I really don't want to get into that again. But I think that this is the way things do and should line up. Other reads: Ritocky is super town from the combination of both his activity level and the thought he puts into the game. I called him nitpicky earlier, but as the game goes on I appreciate the pressure he is putting on. Nydus is a light town. I'm sorta getting a dimwit silly impression from him, and it seems hard to understand why mafia would want to fake that. I realllly don't like his last post though, so that bumped him down. Fidei is town just for doing for the long, clear, and well-written way he conveys his thought processes. I've never felt jarred by of his logic. Damdred is scum. His vote on Kickstart and the way he has been playing is so noncommital. I still like Templar. You people don't understand his utterly dopey playstyle in video mafia. He plays here like he does there. The problem with these reads is that means only one scum voted on Kickstart. And that's a real problem. I'll rethink this in the morning with my Onegu/Ticktock/Scott/New Guy sequel. These two statements don't belong together...since yo know I commited to lynching KS and drove the lynch? | ||
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1) Scum can not care about the lynch generally if people are on town. Scum can decide to just not care about be around for the lynch if its going there way that day. KS was very active at all points of the game before final day leading up to the lynch. 2) The points against KS aren't that bad and are pretty solid, you even call them not horrible. You just disagreed with them. That doesn't make them bad. 3) Nobody has ever explained why i'm middle of the road, I have distinct town reads and distinct scum reads. Just don't get the point and it doesn't make me scum, if I wasn't taking hard stances on people I could see thep oint but I have. 4) scum reading people while they aren't in the thread isn't alignment indicative O_o, if you keep things until someones here you won't get a lot of work done in 24 hours. By comparison I could say that you are guilty of the same thing when its clear that I am not in the thread why would you do such a thing. I was wrong, kick played his claim badly and got killed. That doesn't make me scum, what you are saying though is that one of the most vocal players in the thread, who took one of the most drastic stances in the game and pushed a lynch until it happens is scum. None of this makes me scum and in fact its not a very strong case that generally follows a narrative with you fitting in this stuff to try to make me look scummy | ||
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Tictock(1): sicklucker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, milo109 Started out coloring in the super confirmed kickstart to the thread. Tictock(1): sicklucker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, milo109 Damdred is confirmed town to me, firstly he took one of the hardest stances in the game pushing kickstarters lynch through to the end. He also was one of the more controversial players in the game and as ver says they typically tend to never be mafia due to them sticking their necks out and the like. Though he was wrong about KS it showed a real thought progress on the game and thinking critically. The only scenario where Damdred could be mafia is if Chocolate is mafia, which goes against his meta of just not hammering out his partner who is under massive pressure. Overall he could be more active and assertive but I find the charges against him to be pretty meh, hes taken several hard stances in the game and has documented scum reads and pushed his lynch through who he has stated several times prior to eod that he did not like. My second town read at this point is GGTemplars, while earlier I called him out for some pretty shoddy postings. His return and push on several things looks incredibly towny to me. His rapid fire postings when he was on the block and knew that he was more than likely the one to face the lynch (as there was little to no push on anyone else at that point) plus his wanting to get his final thoughts and feelings out on who he thought was scum. Was extremely telling to me, his case on tick was pretty good as well it showed a decent thought process. However there are a few negatives to go along with him that need to be looked at as the game continues, once he escaped the block he was very rarely in the thread pushing his tick lynch. It is a bit meh but i'm still reasonably sure that he is town here but he does have a couple problems that should be looked into deeper in the coming days. Tictock(1): sicklucker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, milo109 Milo is town. Mafia would never risk being mod killed like this to try to save a blue role. He unvoted and faced a mod kill for not voting? Some of his postings look ok, I think hes pretty far off on a few things but im pretty confident that hes town in this situation I think Scott is really towny in his postings. Early on he had soe issues with activity. He didn't spring my scum trap that I set on him and his postings during the night phase look decent. I think hes dreadfully wrong/bad when it comes to me and hopefully it doesn't become a donkey over the next phase but we will see. He clearly has reads, follow through on thigns that he cares about, and a good thought process going forward. Hes a pretty solid town read at this point. Tictock(1): sicklurker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu I'm currently not going to read SL as I have no real information but mafia do love to throw there votes out in the ether and do nothing about it. He also did something similar as mafia in one of the newb games where he got little to no pressure early and just afk'd his life away. Really need to see the replacement step up but sl is a decent policy lynch at this point. VE is town to me, he has a good push and is just thought vomiting all over the thread whenever he can. He has good follow up and questions people when they have odd reactions that he wouldn't normally expect from them. I admit I SUCK at reading VE but i'm decent convinced at this juncture that VE is town. Tictock(1): sicklurker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu NydusHerMain is scum I believe. Reading through his filter he gives little to no actual thoughts to the thread overall, he is a bit sideline for me hes never directly involved in any confrontation. He states people are scummy (ie., he says ritoky is scummy) but never really does anything with it, he throws the thought into the thread and just sort of morphs back into the aether to post again another day. He asks at one point if he is invisible, yes, yes he is probably one of the most invisible players in the game. He pushes very little and stays under the radar his read post that he posted during the night was pretty bad to me, his scum reads weren't fleshed out and lacked any depth and also the scum team he propposd just didn't make sense with us triple bussing each other when we had two town up for lynch? It just feels fake to me. Chocolate is town I believe, he does have some problems with him. Some of his early things that he said were pretty grating to me. VE jumping on him put him under a lot of pressure and he was one of the leading candidates going into eod, in fact once GG came back he was the only candidate. However his response to this was pretty interesting, he pushed off his own wagon onto someone who wasn't getting lynched, but then he did vote KS to survive which isn't alignment indicative. However a lot of his responses at eod I liked and right now its enough to town read him. Tictock(1): sicklurker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu Onegu is another one of those players I can't read well currently. Hes just another policy lynch until he does more things, he can not post much as either alignment but seems to care more as scum but also is more lurky as scum. Sooo just need more time with him. I think Ritoky is town, i'm sort of torn currently. He is the most active poster in the game and the most vocal which point to him being town. He is also a lot more serious without a lot of obvious scum reads. At the same time he just wasn't sure end of day where he wanted to go and he sheeped someone who he wasn't sure if they were town or not but he seemed to like my case. So there is a possibility that this is scum ritoky without reads trying to direct the game, but my gut still says hes town. He just has some issues that he needs to figure out. Tictock(1): sicklurker Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock GGTemplar(1): NydusHerMain, Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, ritoky, Fidei86 Damdred(1) Onegu I am generally really unsure of ticktock, at points in the game I had a decent feeling that he was town, at others like after eod when he tried to push all of the blame on myself and ritoky (not even sure why rit would get blame there) it felt scummy to do. His case on me is wrong but it shows some form of effort going into the game, which might indicate a town ticktock. I'm in the lurch when it comes to him because the effort points to a town (when scum really wouldnt' have to do much just survive at this point in the game an dlet others push a mislynch durin ght enight). I do not know how to read fidei86, basically I feel like hes scum but hes a brand new player to. From the failed unvote to save kickstart to some weird posts earlier in his filter that leads to dumbtells it just drives me crazy to an extent. And i'm not sure if its scummy or not. However I will say this, Chocolate Could very well be scum here and a Ritoky, Chocolate and NydusHerMain team makes a lot of sense to me and it should to everyone else. Chocolate does just enough to survive and leaves the door open to ritoky who hesitates just enough and jumps on KS is super active up until KS claims but isn't around to unvote until near after (I believe). It makes sense and saving a scum partner might be preferable here. I'm just not sure, that case is actually a good idea that I've been debating i'll think about it more going into tomorrow. But this is where i'm at, 4 nulls, 1 scum, a gut town read on ritoky that i'm worried about. Chocolate who i'm more worried about than I let on. | ||
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Onegs looks bad, nydus looks bad as well. | ||
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On June 06 2015 04:02 ritoky wrote: i think your 1gu read is flavored by the vote being on you. i don't think SL's vote colors him better. i have parked a vote on a teammate or rando really early for a shitty/trolly reason and left it there all phase before as mafia. and i have seen many others do it too. palmar likes to make pinatas out of people who do that. so dunno where the SL looks best comes from. i think i have come to the realization that i am going to have to trust some1 else's read on nydus all game. i won't be getting one any time soon. and of course i am town, you'll know for certain in a couple hours when the mafia shoots me in the face and i flip town. I'm probably lynched tommorow rit so its ok. It looks better in the sense that SL voted early and then out of game things made him quit the game. Oneg looks worse to me as he voted me near eod really didn't push me and didn't try to influence the other wagons. | ||
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But all these dumb tells, non op reading people | ||
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