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On June 07 2015 14:10 Onegu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Onegu is another one of those players I can't read well currently. Hes just another policy lynch until he does more things, he can not post much as either alignment but seems to care more as scum but also is more lurky as scum. Sooo just need more time with him. Damdred writes this in his big post. This is after I voted him for no reason. Like if you read my post it just says reasons. Like when ritoky asked me for a filter to read I wrote I rng'd damdred. How does he think I was pushing his lynch at all. Then the only reason he scum reads me is because I didnt push his lynch but voted him. He knows I do this shit all the time. Damdreds reason for scum reading me is complete BS.
So I want to go back to this. You just posted this now.
You are okay with people policy lynching you which Damdred states and then you put Damdred on the scum list?
My issue with that quote is that Damdred says you care more as scum (thus you post more?) but then says you are scum lurker. Which seems contradictory.
If there's another quote that supports this, I get it, but the one you have makes no sense to me.
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On June 07 2015 14:32 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 04:31 Shendelzare wrote:
Alright, took more looking at Onegu's filter. Is he trolling or just posting just to post?
Chocolate and Milo being on the same team? really?
Calling Fidei as either blue or scum - why? And why out another blue as town? That really makes no sense when I see no other reason to scumread Fidei from his point of view?
He scumreads VE early on but votes Damdred? That is a jump in logic to me.
Onegu is probably scum.
Moving on to other people... Because here seems to look like you took it serious.
Hence my first line in that quote. I don't think you were trolling at all though with the latter reads I stated - Fidei, VE, Damdred.
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To add to what I said about Damdred -
My issue with that quote is that Damdred says you care more as scum (thus you post more?) but then says you are scum lurker. Which seems contradictory.
I don't think this alone makes Damdred mafia, but it sounds weird.
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Oh wait a minute you just said that.
"He knows I do this shit all the time."
Never mind then. That part went over my head.
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Okay, now that is making a little more sense why you don't like Damdred, fine. But what do you think of him after the lynch? He posted some large case or something. Or do you just look at people how they view you and ignore everything else?
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I looked at the database link ritoky showed me.
Damdred has a decent track record as scum. Particularly a good survivor the later the game goes.
Scott mentioned some "why am I alive" rule. I wonder why it does not seem to apply to him.
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On June 07 2015 14:42 Onegu wrote:
Damdred is capable of making large cases as scum. Him leading the day one lynch is null for him.
Maybe I need to look into this part more on Damdred. If someone leads a lynch, if he pushed him day one, that's usually a town incident? Assuming he truly believed he had a mafia read? Or was his push on the day one lynch for not great reasons?
I'll look into that if people are worried he's good enough to trick us. I just assume all experience players on this site are good enough around here to play scum, maybe some are better than others though, I don't know.
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I'm out for a few hours. Gym time and breakfast and that.
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On June 07 2015 15:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Just posting this for post-game
Mafia:
Tictock
1 of VE or Onegu
1 of Damdred or Scott
Town:
Kickstart
Ritoky
Nydus
Milo
Sicklucker/shendel
Fidei
Chocolate
VE and Scott could be mafia because...?
If you already said and I missed it then requote...
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Well as you say if you're wrong on any town I think you're wrong on Chocolate, he looks terrible all around.
Shame that KS didn't claim sooner.
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Well to be fair had I actually been around Day 1 I would have switched to Chocolate upon seeing the claim or tried to. KS posting was different but objectively I don't think it made him mafia. From what I read of Day 1 it seemed some people were putting way too much stock on posting style or tone reads and I'm not fully sure if that is just people being bad or mafia.
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On June 07 2015 16:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
shame you guys lynched him when I called him town
now you're lynching me
I think this is the other issue some were having with you. Calling someone town and being right on them doesn't make you town.
Someone being wrong on someone else doesn't make them one alignment or the other.
It's how they get there. I think it was Milo who said you were a video mafia player, right? So maybe that's lost in the way here?
But I think if you can understand why people are getting to where they are on you it might help you sort things out a little better if you are town.
I looked at Tictock's case on you. You are so sure he's mafia. So maybe you can start by showing us the problems in his case on you. Otherwise you'd have to point us in a different direction towards another one of your scumreads.
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On June 07 2015 21:55 Damdred wrote:
So I really don't care for GG attitude here. However nydus postings especially who could be scum doesn't make much sense to me... Besides everyone in the whole game?
If we lynch me today I'm okish with it I've been real busy lately meh.
Anyway SL slots sudden change from town reading me now to partially scum reading me is interesting.
I think tick is townish currently to. Kinda not sure what to do today.
I thought Nydus talking about the potential association between Chocolate and Templar was useful to be honest.
I think if we move off Templar we lynch Chocolate. He has not done shit this day.
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Well aside from not doing shit his Day 1 was terrible and IMO bled scum.
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Milo, I tried to throw Templar a line. You made a comment he's a video mafia player so I can appreciate a different approach from someone like him. His way out though is making a case on someone else and giving up about 12 hours or so before end of day I mean he had still some time to push us another direction.
He doesn't like Damdred or Onegu and the latter is a common scum read on a few. He had IMO a chance talking about Onegu.
(I personally don't think Onegu is a good lynch today but others don't like him.)
In any case frustration can come from either alignment.
Milo you mentioned you had the same reads as him. Including his latest? Can you talk a little more yourself about Tictock, Damdred and VE?
Especially how are you seeing scum in VE and Damdred?
Also you think Chocolate is town? How are you seeing that he's town?
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On June 07 2015 23:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
he was voting on Ticktock and not mafia-siding all game
If Tictock is mafia can you point out the flaws then in his case on you?
You should be able to demonstrate how some of those points he makes does not necessarily make you mafia.
I personally didn't agree with all of his case but what is interesting to me is your stance on Chocolate and the second town read on KS. I cannot see at this point how anyone sees him as town, no that doesn't make you mafia itself but you total ignored him day one when others made a big deal of him.
Which is why I might actually have to agree with NHM (!!!) that a Chocolate flip might team you could be on a team with him.
I'm on my phone when I get to my laptop I'll try and follow up with a quote I know you straight up just wanted to ignore him.
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On June 07 2015 23:35 milo109 wrote:
Sure. I don't know if you've checked out my filter, but this entire game I've been on the side of Chocolate/Templar. Defending them against the pushes by VE especially. I'm not going to rehash old fights, but I don't see what VE is contributing. He finds one scummy thing one person does, and then just attempts to push a mislynch. He doesn't take the person's whole play into consideration. I just don't like the way he's been playing.
Damdred is almost the opposite. He started the game by mildly townreading everybody. None of his early posts take a stand. Then, when he is accused he defends himself by saying, 'make a case' or 'you're dumb' instead of actually proving himself town.
I really don't think VEs pushes make him mafia, he could be wrong but at least for Templar the way he's showing his points at least shows he's believing in the case and d2 I think he's pointing out multiple things wrong with Templar.
As for me Chocolate looks really really bad at EoD I would 100% lynch him the way he went about KS. Scott questioned you how you thought Chocolate was town for EoD and I really would like to know too because I am getting the complete opposite conclusion and I evaluated earlier in the day.
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I stand corrected Scott was talking to Fidei regarding Chocolate not you. But Milo second issue now in case you're not used to forum mafia, your defense of Chocolate was based on his earlier posting D1 (checked your filter) but you don't make any change based on his EoD posting which I feel is significantly worse. If you don't feel your read changes on Chocolate then why?
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On June 07 2015 23:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
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Temp you should be spending your time trying to get someone from your "solved game list" lynched. If not me, then someone that everyone is NOT reading town.
Sigh yes I tried to make the same point to him earlier this morning.
I don't know if this is a video mafia thing it seems we have several video mafia players in this game and their way or evaluating things or not is very different at times its hard to tell.
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On June 08 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote:
Ehhh I kinda want to lynch nydas or chocolate today.
And you are just bad or scum oneg.
Anyway Gg attitude makes me hesitate here no survival really going on bah.
You'd have my vote 100% on Chocolate.
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