EPT[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 3
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Chocolate
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"Hounds people for reads but when confronted for his own reads he gives only smoke scum read that is rehashed fom others in the thread, sl scum read at this point is an afterthought and feels contrived." "you come back to the thread, start yelling and OMGUSing damdred and jump off a wagon losing steam onto the other popular one for a meh reason." walls of text, I don't know if you consciously write them for this reason but I have a hard time focusing on them and if I see a bunch of new posts I kinda just skip over them at first still don't really like his first post lol and now he bandwagons on me for ?? my vote is also partially grounded in a will to survive since I hope that with my vote and possibly a change on the part of ritoky I won't die D1 at least | ||
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ok let me try to generally address the points against me 1. the scott vote he wasn't posting, had a general town read and nothing else at the moment, very easy way for scum to play it safe, I don't feel he is scum at all at the moment since he has posted a lot more since then 2. going scott over VE uhhh it was pretty far before the end of the day and it was a case of pros and cons vs. only cons at the moment 3. I seen scummy because I've been defending all game It's a cycle. If I don't defend myself, I get called dodgy scum. If I defend myself, I seem to be scrambling. In either case I have to spend a lot of my time and posts defending myself which continues to call attention to myself possibly being scum 4. switching votes a lot tictock vote meant next to nothing, scott vote was imo logical at the time it was made, VE vote was slightly OMGUSing, onegu vote I continue to stand by but if you guys want to interpet meta to the detriment of town I can't stop you, KS I don't want to die, he seems scummy (and for my next post I'll try to be more formal why), and bandwagoned me if there's anything else scummy you want to bring up about me then shoot | ||
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Chocolate
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damn KS you have a lot of words will do scotty | ||
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On June 05 2015 05:36 Tictock wrote: Is it a bad sign that this logic pleases me since I'm reading them both as scum? GG's vote just seems like it's too hand wavey justified to me. I guess you put a lot more faith into this theory of play than I do, but to each their own on playstyle choice. Choco has been making similarly bad scumreads and votes. This switch onto Kick seems really scummy to me as well. is it scummy to not want to die? seems pretty logical to me @scott from scummy to not scum Kickstart VisceraEyes Tictock Onegu sicklucker Damdred GGTemplar ritoky milo scott31337 NydusHerMain Fidei86 (maybe trying to clear himself in the future by siding with me)? NydusHerMain, I don't really know | ||
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Chocolate
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sorry for formatting in a hurry "Took a nap cause I was feeling like shit and moody, probably came through in my posting. Lots of people have taken issue with my Nydus town read. I just want to say again that it was hastily done and I just said it off the top of my head because people were pressuring me to give more town reads (which again I don't find fair since I gave them, but people are greedy and wanted more and I reacted badly). It can be ignored and I have tried to explain why it happened, I will have to reevaluate him later but like I said I would probably not lynch him at the moment." backpedaling and trying to appease everybody "After addressing everyone getting a tryhard/bossy vibe from me, do you still find me suspicious? Does my defense that this is normal from me change your opinion at all? I agree with the town reads part, that is why I don't like to give them this early but since I was asked for opinions on more than just milo i did give a few. Do you still find scott and myself to be most suspicious or has that changed?" more appeasement "Again milo I think you are focusing too much on me just because I was pressuring you so hard. That is fine I guess but I still would like to hear thoughts on someone aside from me you find scummy, or am I the only one at this point? Your points in my case I don't find particularly good either but I can address those later if people think they hold weight, for now I will work on posting reads on people aside from you as I have had multiple requests to do so." evasion "That said, is milo still slight town and I still slight scum to you? Are there any other reads you can give besides us two at this point?" evasion "Well me OMGUSing everything is a stretch. I went on milo and sl before they even mentioned me, and my read on GGT is the same with or without him directing anything at me. I am generally of the opinion that town reads aren't of much use D1, but I was pressured to name some earlier and I named yourself and VE, for basically the same reasons. I felt that you were both applying pressure when needed, you were both driving discussion, and both were being open and honest with your thoughts - all of which I think is helpful and thus I feel that you have been helpful for town up to this point. Does that mean I think you are both 100% town? No, but I feel confident in saying that I would not vote on either of you this cycle. To be honest the only other person I feel is slightly town atm is Nydus, but definitely not on the same level as you two. I have real issues with almost everyone else who I havent mentioned because I just feel their posts are void of strong feelings and I don't like that style of play. Namely I feel like Damdred, scott, Onegu, and Fideu (just off the top of my head) are not giving us anything to work with, their posts are void of reads and strong opinions, and while Damdred has asked a lot of questions and put a bit of pressure on at times, he is still guilty of not giving us his thoughts (though he said this is how he plays and that he will wait to make a stronger case when he is ready - which I intend to hold him too, if Day 1 ends and he is still guilty of what I outlined above I will have some real questions about him because he has been active enough and seems experiences and good enough to give some solid reads but has yet to do so). I think scott and fideu are new so I can understand the reluctance to stick their necks out on anything but I don't feel that is a real excuse, they still need to share their thoughts on things. Onegu seems to have arrived late on the scene but already his posting style is suspicious to me, much too much joking around; while this is normal and understandable at the start of the game, I feel like there is plenty of content to actually address, which he has not done. Can anyone tell me if this is normal posting from Onegu?" verbal diarrhea which confused me, probably others "id mention my issues with chocolate before and it seems he is getting a lot of heat atm, will see that happens there." "well I'd like to bandwagon but I don't want to be held accountable for it" | ||
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Onegu and SL need to contribute more (though I do see why SL isn't posting much) and if they don't then don't give a free pass because "meta lol" VE and KS seem the most scummy to me, TT too maybe, Fidei or milo may be trying to pocket me so don't clear them upon my death | ||
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Right now I have close to no idea who scum is but I'd say prolly not GGT and maybe Shen or VE | ||
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In fact I feel that if I die and flip town a milo/fid/GGT team could be quite possible | ||
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Don't really have enough time to write out a long post on why I think that sorry, I'm on my phone in colonial Williamsburg lol | ||
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Chocolate
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Hopefully I have some time in the next few hours to make a vote, if not sorry | ||
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Don't wanna vote GGT because I think he's town. GGT makes a compelling case (I know this is a shitty reason to vote someone but I had no time today) and since I think he's town I'm going TT Really sorry for not being more productive, when I get back home I promise I'll kick the posting up a notch | ||
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Chocolate
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If I were scum I'd never be as inactive as SL was the first day, even if I were about to get replaced Shen being very active today tells me more that he is trying to do town more of a service than dispel the read people were getting on sl He was also pushed moderately day1 before and after I brought it up which I don't have a good reason to feel suspicious but strikes me as fishy (though I do recognize that I was part of that crowd) | ||
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Chocolate
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VE someone else are mafia Just got to find #3 | ||
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On June 08 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote: That's sad but chocolate is probably mafia here probably you are #3 scott why the FUCK would you want to vote me | ||
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