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27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 16:50 GMT
#1256
On May 25 2015 16:57 Alakaslam wrote:
A tomorrow I hope to see 27nb speak of my flat out vote of hijole


..............
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 17:39 GMT
#1259
Okay, since no one is around really, I can probably make a huge post and you can all catch up on my thoughts. Sorry guys, but this is the best way for me to address everything that has been asked. I'll go down the line, and try to give all my thoughts in a concise matter. I tend to leave things out as I write reads.

Vet Claim
So here is why I claimed my actual role as vet, for those of you who are too dumb to understand even though I've explained it a million times.

1. I was told I had to claim- so ok. I claim a blue role.
2. I say in my claim that ritoky knows that I softed to him
Q. Omg, bunnies. Why would you soft your role to someone you think is mafia?
A. I believe ritoky is mafia. If rit knows that I'm softing to him, he'd shoot me in the night, I absorbing kp for that night, and we don't lose a town or a role.
3. I had to claim my actual role and not another blue role or vt.
Q. Omg, bunnies why would you do that? You just confused us more and allowed other scum to push on you!
A. Because, some dumbass (I think it was HF) said that if I claimed VT, vig should shoot me anyway. Dumb play, I'd die, so I couldn't just claim VT there. And why didn't I claim another role? Because, I was being so highly read as scum, if I were to claim a role that wasn't my own that was actually in the game, I risk that person scum reading me, coming out, and not having their role useful in the game because they have died.

Moving on.

Ritoky Read(With some FF in there)
Q. Bunnies, why are you reading Ritoky as mafia?
A. I read ritoky as mafia every game. But I do have reasons this time
1. Ritoky's beginning game was pretty meh. Usually you can tell rit town by his content, but his first couple filter pages just seems like he is interjecting to look townie.
2. This interjection between FF and Rit is what was originally making me read FF as town. Rit just seems super defensive and testing waters on whom he could push for what I think is a mislynch+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2015 10:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
... I'm not sure I like what you're doing here ritoky, you're asking me to make a snap read on you based on how you interpreted a post that I find slightly scummy? I'm not sure what you want me to say. I'm just going to look at your filter.

On one hand, it feels like you're trying to force me to fumble my words or something. Like you're waiting to prey on me...

On the other hand, you're actually talking about ingame stuff and trying to get reads, rather than posting gifs. Yet it's still lighthearted enough.

Yeah I could read you town for now. I just don't like this interaction we've just had.


You thought enough of fuba's post to put it at the very beginning of your initial reads post, so clearly it stuck out to you. However, you gave no opinion on it calling it "funny". What the shit am I supposed to learn from that, right? So I asked you to express it in terms of alignment. You said scum or nothing. I told you I had the literal exact opposite reaction, and asked what that made you think of me. Tell me how this progression is scummy.

I don't really like what you're doing this game. I just find your posts uninteresting and not driving the game forward. Those are two qualities I don't really ascribe to your town play, particularly early in the game. I will re-evaluate you later in the day, but you're in the scum lean pile with geript.


3.Just saying
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 23 2015 08:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:30 ritoky wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
bunnies keeping that incorrect read streak alive.

I don't like your reads in the slightest.

you don't acknowledge any of sandroba's points and why they are correct or incorrect, your little bit is mostly just conjecture and heuristics and tone. and you've never even touched on the really good point he made about geript trying to double dip on his read on you. how he implied it was sarcastic and fake yet wanted credit for it being real.

you then spend more time and effort devoted to geript who isn't your scum read, and the majority of it doesn't feel like it is much about geript but a defense of yourself.

you call it weird and say it is unlikely that they are both town, but I don't see a good justification as to why.

you give town reads on FF and HF, maybe 1 of which deserves it.

then you neutral and scum read the 2 largest filters in the game who did the most pushing early game.

then you mention fuba and onegu....why fuba? why not VA, prp, etc. onegu a bit more understandable cuz you actually have a read. but why the hell fuba? you spewing him town?

DO NOT LIKE


You know you could just ask me what my reads are or further explain reads instead of going ham. I'd be more than happy to give them to you.

I'm not sure which of sands points you are talking about. I havent even fully read through sands filter, just ping out the things i notice most while reading through.

Geript is a good read for me. Of course im going to comment more on something i am sure about than something im not.
I gave my justification about why they are both not town. read again.

Which one out of HF and FF do you think deserves a tr? I'm honestly curious. And say why.

More posting does not equal town. You know this from many of my previous games as mafia. Content= town. Reconsideration and evaluation of the game=town. Not mass posting. Just cause they are pushing and posting does not make them town. Easily done as mafia.

Fuba- I definitely didn't say Fuba wwas town. I said neutral, as in neutrally dont have a read either way. Dont put words in my mouth.
Says in thread he has been lurking,comes back basically 24 hours later with two questions that holyflare (I think?) answered yes to only, and hasnt said much yet.... NEutral

VA- haven't read anything worthwhile on commenting from VA
Onegu- I gave a read in an earlier post that I admitted to that was wrong

Now that I've basically discredited your entire post, Ritoky, you want to tell me how you're town, and not mafia?


So you haven't read the filter or the case of your top mafia read.....is this serious?

most posting day 1 almost always = town. the #1 filter is town over 90% of the time. so uh, you're just wrong.

nothing else is worth responding to.


this guy so far up his own butt that he's quite likely mafia though, should be obvious anyone that admits something so stupid as to not having read their scum read but voting them is probably town


+not getting jokes
++ too serious all game
+++ mafia ritoky


hope you're town so I have finally gotten your read on me to be bad.


4. I just don't think ritoky is actually looking at the game from a townie perspective. He should be reevaluating his reads, but even as I claimed vet, he didn't reall believe it at all.
Sand/Geript Reads
Q.
On May 25 2015 07:37 ritoky wrote:
okay 27nb. for your next couple of posts i am going to try to forget the fact that i think you're most probably scum.

you have been stating for a long time that there is almost 100% 1 between geript and sandroba. use those next few posts where i am not considering you mafia to make a case and convince me why there was necessarily 1 between geript and sandroba and why sandroba is mafia.

go.


A. The Truth: I didnt read any consstancies HF, nor your point of inconsistencies. Sorry, not sorr, but I didn't think they mattered. I felt HF was pushing on geript for dumb reasons, and reasons i didnt agree with.

As for Sand/Geript. They were arguing SO much trying to go ham on each other and get each other lynched there. I don't see two town doing this. I see atleast one mafia pushing on another town. I just wasn't sure which one was mafia. Originally I thought geript was mafia because he came out with the dumb read that I used two different entrances into the game, and it seemed like he wanted t push on me for that. Then, later on, he changed me to "fourth or fifth" lynch. But I don't see where Geript double dipped on his read on me that HF and Sand were claiming, unless what I just stated was double dipping?

As for Sand- sand has been inconsistant basically the entire game.
1. Comes into the thread complaining. What town does this?
2. Argues with geript over incosistancies that I didn't even see. Seems like a push on a nonexistant case, even admits to it not getting traction and wanting to lynch yam and me.
3. This si the point wher eI want to hear more on Sand's read on yam/now Slam. Sand mentioned it once, saying it was me/yam or me/gerpt, but actually hasn't pushed a read on why yam is mafia.
4/ I'm just getting really bad vibes from Sand. I still believe in the one mafia between Sand/Geript, and geript flipping as town just solidifies this idea




Side note: It was Geript who had the read on Rsoul that I liked, not Onegu.


Ummm, so that's what I ahve so far. Gonna post this and read a bit more and see what I can find.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 18:20 GMT
#1268
On May 26 2015 02:56 sandroba wrote:
NB can you do something for me? Pretend that you know I'm confirmed town and give me your overall assesment of the game state and d1, and who would be scum.
Also
Q. Omg, bunnies why would you do that? You just confused us more and allowed other scum to push on you!
A. Because, some dumbass (I think it was HF) said that if I claimed VT, vig should shoot me anyway. Dumb play, I'd die, so I couldn't just claim VT there.
I don't understand this part. You say you are vet and if the vig shot you and you lived you would be confirmed town?

If vig shot me, I'd be dead confirmed town.

People were saying if I was Vet, why wouldnt i just claim VT? Because others were pushing for me to claim, and that if I claimed VT i would be vigi shot.

As Vet, I don't get to be alive if i get shot by vig. I can only absorb the KP if I'm shot by mafia.

Also, seeing you as confirmed town is hard.

But uh....

Let's see if you were confirmed town, ritoky prob also town. His reads have been aligning with you, and the interaction between you and him day 1 would seem as if two town talking to each other and not two mafia talking to each other. But this is only if you were confirmed town.

I'd want to lynch Onegu, Yam/Slam (though slam's play is townie, not yam) and probably VA because I haven't seen shit from VA.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 18:26 GMT
#1275
On May 26 2015 03:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
You've also been through the tough times, tough enough to protect yourself from one KP in a given night if attacked by one of the Salgueiro.


Well, shit. It literally says in the op that vet is only protected against mafia


Exactly, im not protected against a vig shot.

That's why I had to claim there in the chance there was a vig
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 18:28 GMT
#1278
On May 26 2015 03:24 Alakaslam wrote:
I could see a VA scum. I think Fuba is more scum though.


Fuba could be.

All I remember is the beginning admission to lurking.

Filter dive incoming
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 18:53 GMT
#1298
So I filter dived on Fuba, he actually menton Yam as a lynch twice if I'm not mistaken, but he doesn't push the read.

On May 24 2015 02:00 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
-squints at hf-

and now we're arguing the same points yet again

blah -_-

i want to lynch yamato; am i still the only one?


Reading what I missed while typing really quick, and I'd probably be fine with a yama lynch as well. It bothers me that he felt the need to explain why he's voting geript even though from what I recall most of his posts are about geript being mafia. It seems defensive. Of course, this still feels flimsy to me, but that should tell you how unsure I really am about my current vote XD


The bolded might have some substatiation on the yamata lynch, but Fuba's filter is small, and tbh, I don't think he has much contributed to the game.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 25 2015 20:18 GMT
#1334
On May 26 2015 04:52 rsoultin wrote:
i just love being ignored -_-

be back later

if i'm not here when bunnies returns, someone get her to actually explain her thought process

thank you ><


which thought process?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 02:54 GMT
#1388
I'll eventually read, but anything mportant happen when I left?

And yes, rsoul, im working on my response to your question now.

Though ifim not mistaken, i already answered what i thought about geript's read.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 02:54 GMT
#1389
And Hfs question too
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 03:06 GMT
#1392
Oh i read that quote wrong. So votes on Geript

Fuba was a person i didnt like, but didnt really talk about him, so wasnt really my reasoning.

I thought sand was on geript, but misread the slash

And yamato, who i thought was a good lynch.

But i also think there is no way ALL mafia voted on geript. Prob just one or two. there is definitely a mafia on me, im thinking two if my read on ritoky and sand is right. And damdred trying to hammer me is a bit suspicious.

I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 03:07 GMT
#1394
OATS IS IN THIS GAME?!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 06:39 GMT
#1495
On May 26 2015 15:08 sandroba wrote:
Fuck this game. Mafia is either too good or not playing at all. Or I'm terrible. Here is where I'm at right now:
Prob town
rsoul
ritoky
27nb
oats

Possibly town
slam
FF

Moved to null
prpl

Leaning scum
Fuba
VA
Onegu

I think it's likely 2/3 scum are among the leaning scum and I'm possibly town reading the one active scum member in their team.


IT scares me how much i actually like this list, minus ritoky.

But i ffeel like its poe from your point and no actually basis.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 06:39 GMT
#1496
Also, im still reading the game, just not commenting and caring about everything i see.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 14:14 GMT
#1500
So I'm looking at the votes, and I just can't seem to find someone i want to really push on.
I've been thinking through the night (my night) of the game, and an interaction with Sand makes me actually want to call him town.

A fuba lynch could very well happen, i think there needs to be more pressure on him.
And pressure on VA

I also want to know thoughts on why ritoky is town and not mafia.

##Vote: Fuba
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 14:27 GMT
#1501
I'm going to go workout, but would love some interaction when I get back.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 18:51 GMT
#1550
On May 26 2015 23:50 Onegu wrote:
I lied it has been 12 hours and I have failed to provide reads.

why arent we killling NB?

##Vote 27ninjabunnies.


Admits to not providing reads, votes a pr.

GG you are reading the game
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 19:39 GMT
#1562
On May 27 2015 04:29 prplhz wrote:
off the top of my head i'd rather kill ff than rit

i think fuba is town too so lets move off of him

##Vote Fecalfeast


Why is fuba town?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 20:42 GMT
#1584
On May 27 2015 05:26 fuba wrote:
Still on page 76, but saw the vote thread.

I'm jailer. Jailed ritoky N1. Wasn't sure of my HF town read after N1, he was confusing me. And tbh I hate it when people say "doc better save me tonight". And if HF was town I was expecting scum to try to dodge the medic (which in retrospect was stupid). I went with someone who I felt participated a lot but I didn't have a particularly strong read on either way. Felt I could block a shot if he's town, and stop a shot if he's scum.


apparently this is why fuba is town
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 20:47 GMT
#1592
On May 27 2015 05:44 sandroba wrote:
@bunnies you have been scum reading ritoky all game now it's your chance to kill him.


Idk see a sft from ritoky though.

Id love to sheep this, honestly....but can we trust fuba's claim.

Did fuba actually blocck someone?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2015 20:52 GMT
#1600
Okaay, Sand is making more and more sense to me.

##Vote: Ritoky
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
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