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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 15 2015 09:39 GMT
#15
/in
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 21:25 GMT
#104
##vote damdred

100% mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#105
I am literally 100% certain Damdred is mafia.

Kill with lightning bolts please.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#107
On May 18 2015 06:33 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:25 Palmar wrote:
##vote damdred

100% mafia.

He posted in the QT?

<insert answer that makes you lynch Damdred>
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 21:47 GMT
#114
Why are you guys talking to mafia. Just lynch him and be done with it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 21:54 GMT
#118
On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will.

Besides if you lynch me here you have to share the headline with GB, and do you really want that

Given that GB pardoned mafia last game I'm sure he'll be okay with me taking most of the credit and him basically being restored to non-shit status.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#159
Zealous is also mafia

So 2/3
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2015 08:27 GMT
#237
On May 18 2015 15:41 Zealos wrote:
Hasn't offered any reasoning, or anything of use to the thread, AND miss spelt my name

I blame iphone

You're still mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2015 08:33 GMT
#238
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2015 12:08 GMT
#240
On May 18 2015 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!

rude.
has scib said anything weird?


scib is always mafia, but we never lynch him and he wins.

It's just life.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:02 GMT
#474
Yeah sciberbia is mafia but we'll never lynch him cause his scumgame is a+ so it's fine.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:09 GMT
#476
Shining and Glowingbear are both town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:12 GMT
#477
My shitlist btw, was a list of people who complained about my activity or lack of explanations between 23:00 and 08:00 my time. That's just dumb.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:13 GMT
#478
Oh shit, Vivax is mafia too.

Hmm, that means one of my scumreads is wrong.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:20 GMT
#480
Alright it's posting time, I'll explain.

GB is town for this:

On May 18 2015 05:04 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Damdred

Mafia-ish opening.

Does anyone know how to turn back to mobile mode? I turned website mode again, and AGAIN I can't find the reverse button.


On May 18 2015 05:24 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm saying that instead of coming to the thread and make a generic opening, you took the easiest step, which is commenting his opening without making anything from it.

Like, what do you make of his opening?


It's early aggression and it should absolutely buy him time for today. I don't want to lynch him.

Shining is town because of this:

On May 18 2015 05:57 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:42 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:31 The Shining wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:17 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode.

Also, your vote is cake.

The cake is a lie.

Am I correctly deciphering this as saying that you disapprove of GB's vote on Damdred? Would you go so far as to say you have a town read/lean on Damdred for his opening posts, or do you simply think GB's vote is baseless?


Nope. I am merely stating that the vote is not in the voting thread and therefore a cake and therefore a lie. A nonexistent vote can't be baseless.

But you're going so far as to try and draw far too many conclusions from one post. Too strong, too early. Why?

My post consisted of two questions, not two conclusions. I did not draw any conclusions, but instead tried to decipher your cryptic post and get confirmation from you as to what it meant.

In future, please try to be clear in the first place rather than intentionally communicating poorly and then acting smug when I fail to understand you.


Every game, someone dislikes my posting style. Congratulations, you're that person.

I didn't think calling a non-vote a lie was THAT cryptic. MY BAD. And I said you were trying to draw conclusions with those questions, not that you had drawn conclusions. You delved really hard into a rather simple post. In the future, ask me what I mean if you'd like to know rather than wrongly interpret it.

Or better yet, don't tell me how to play and I won't tell you how to play. Painting my cake statement as intentionally communicating poorly is an attempt to attack my credibility.


This one post makes him my #1 townread. He looks like he's really annoyed at sciberbia and actually cares about his credibility.

Vivax is mafia because of this:

On May 18 2015 07:25 Vivax wrote:
Well I read my role PM now so I'm sure I can post this:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Since when have you been so interested in plynches?


This is a question that looks like it's coming from scum Obi.


On May 18 2015 07:30 Vivax wrote:
I don't like what Palmar is doing, seems more like something mafia Palmar would do.


On May 18 2015 07:31 Vivax wrote:
Sort of wary of Onegu as well


On May 18 2015 07:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Nice pile of Wifom


In 7 minutes he makes 4 scumleans just 3? pages into the game. And it's complete bullshit. Nothing in my filter or Onegu's filter is actually alignment indicative at that point, and the point on Obi is just as bad.

On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?


Followed by a really quick townread.

Vivax isn't good enough to throw reads out like this. So I kinda think he can be mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:21 GMT
#481
I also kinda think Zealos is town where I am in the thread.

Reading more.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:35 GMT
#482
On May 18 2015 07:33 sciberbia wrote:
@Damdred
I agree with Vivax that Palmar could still be scum. What if he is scum and he's just calling you scum to make it look like he's doing something? He may not necessarily be hoping to get you lynched.

This is super dumb. If I assume sciberbia is not shit which I know he isn't this looks like a mafia post.

No one that has a brain would actually think I believe that throwing out a one sentence unexplained 100% read is going to make me look like I'm doing something.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:36 GMT
#483
On May 18 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
##vote Zealos

Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
Although there was a post limit on Assassination...

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though


Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't.


This is a terrible post too.

He's voluntarily offering up information in the thread. I have literally no problem with people being unsure. In fact if he was mafia why wouldn't he just pretend he's sure?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:36 GMT
#484
On May 18 2015 07:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Your townread on palmar is also extremely odd since there is nothing townie in it.

Good town post.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 09:37 GMT
#485
On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.

Okay maybe Vivax isn't mafia. This is exactly what I thought.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 12:50 GMT
#495
I have no idea if I actually want to lynch you Spock. I voted you because you quoted a random post from Vivax and said that it somehow swayed you towards me and Obi which was completely retarded.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 13:12 GMT
#496
Like I might not actually reach a conclusion today. We'll see.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 14:22 GMT
#502
Why is holyflare being so inactive btw?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 15:12 GMT
#506
Technically when you distance yourself from a partner you don't do it by ignoring him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 15:13 GMT
#508
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:32 GMT
#538
On May 20 2015 00:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.


Palmar, the problem here is that I debunked his whole case on me and when showing that he was wrong, he simply decided to ignore those points. I've caught him straight up lying about my list post, for example.

And when I asked him to assume, hypothetically, that I'm town (which simply destroys any association), he gave a scumread out of association.

He is simply calling 3 people Mafia and not caring for the rest of the game. He made a group and is trying to get this group lynched, but has NO opinion on other players.

I think none of this necessarily makes him mafia.

He could be, who knows.

But I just don't think that's the case.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:33 GMT
#539
On May 20 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar why did you park your vote on Shockey?

Oats, what made you scumread Shockey?

Because he said some random shitpost from vivax helped form his reads.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:35 GMT
#541
On May 20 2015 01:01 GlowingBear wrote:
If you were the conspiracy newbie people are saying, you would never not be afraid of being pocketed by Mafia (being pocketed = townreading and being their puppet)

Technically this is wrong by definition because the whole reason mafia pocketing exists in the first place is that people are not always on the lookout for it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:36 GMT
#542
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:49 GMT
#546
Actually I changed my mind again, let's lynch Vivax. The accusation against him is that he doesn't really want to lynch Damdred. This has nothing to do with Damdred's alignment (which happens to be mafia too, but that's subject for a later discussion).




Point 1


This is the primary point of the case on Vivax. He calls Damdred out multiple times without ever acting on it.

On May 18 2015 07:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Nice pile of Wifom


First accusation againsdt Damdred. Apparently Damdred's townread on me is based on nothing and not worth listening to if you're Vivax.

On May 18 2015 07:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:53 Damdred wrote:
Because i'm only answering things haphazardly and in such a huge game I miss things from skimming.

Theres not really an objective answer at this time, could Palmar be mafia? Objectively yes, could he be doing this as scum? Quite possible.

Just a gut reaction/read with some other things that I feel *shrug*


I notice a lack of motivation


Second accusation and this is a very serious one. Lacking motivation to solve the game is one of the primary scumtells in mafia. If Vivax sincerely believes that Damdred lacks motivation to solve the game he should be all over Damdred trying to get him lynched.

I don't think Vivax believes what he is saying.

On May 18 2015 08:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure how i'm lacking motivation lol?


You answered really superficially and still didn't seem to look in detail at what sciberbia asked of you.


Third accusation (although it ties in with the second). Not only did damdred lack motivation, his answer was also "really superficial" which is another very strong scumtell in general mafia play.

So in conclusion, Vivax has said three things about Damdred

1) He lacks motivation to solve the game
2) He posts superficially
3) He posts useless wifom that cannot be used for conclusions

These are very, very serious accusations against Damdred.

Then Vivax proceeds to never talk about Damdred again, almost as if he forgets the posts above and goes on to vote Obi as a lazy sheep vote without even trying to push his own ideas in the thread.

This makes Vivax mafia every time.



Point 2


This is a much weaker point but it's still relevant. I have already said this so I'm just quoting my earlier accusation.

On May 19 2015 18:20 Palmar wrote:
Vivax is mafia because of this:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:25 Vivax wrote:
Well I read my role PM now so I'm sure I can post this:

On May 18 2015 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Since when have you been so interested in plynches?


This is a question that looks like it's coming from scum Obi.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:30 Vivax wrote:
I don't like what Palmar is doing, seems more like something mafia Palmar would do.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:31 Vivax wrote:
Sort of wary of Onegu as well


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:32 Vivax wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Nice pile of Wifom


In 7 minutes he makes 4 scumleans just 3? pages into the game. And it's complete bullshit. Nothing in my filter or Onegu's filter is actually alignment indicative at that point, and the point on Obi is just as bad.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?


Followed by a really quick townread.

Vivax isn't good enough to throw reads out like this. So I kinda think he can be mafia.






Point 2.3


This is a shitty point so it only counts for 0.3 real points.

Vivax has been super inactive.





It's time to kill mafia guys. I'm actually good at day 1 stuff so please at least give this case a chance.

##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:50 GMT
#547
On May 20 2015 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.


I don't actually know why you want to lynch Damdred so badly.

Changed my mind, now we lynch Vivax
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:58 GMT
#553
On May 20 2015 01:54 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 01:50 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.


I don't actually know why you want to lynch Damdred so badly.

Changed my mind, now we lynch Vivax

I can get down with Vivax actually, but enlighten me as to why you suspect Damdred. I haven't checked him out in a while, but I had him as pretty solid town.

It's just a shitty tone read tbh. I haven't made a case on him because I don't really have a case on him. This Vivax thing is much better.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:59 GMT
#555
done.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 17:56 GMT
#565
On May 20 2015 02:16 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:58 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:54 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:50 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.


I don't actually know why you want to lynch Damdred so badly.

Changed my mind, now we lynch Vivax

I can get down with Vivax actually, but enlighten me as to why you suspect Damdred. I haven't checked him out in a while, but I had him as pretty solid town.

It's just a shitty tone read tbh. I haven't made a case on him because I don't really have a case on him. This Vivax thing is much better.


I figured that's what it was

you're an annoying human being

This is a town post
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#570
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 18:51 GMT
#576
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 18:53 GMT
#579
On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.


I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.

Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#589
On May 20 2015 03:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:53 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.


I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.

Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.


Alternative (C): I think your case is good and Vivax might be Mafia, but I think Shockey has a better shot on being scum.

I just want to understand why you townread him.

On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.



Essentially he's too scummy to be scum, with the flavor that no matter his alignment he's clearly putting at least some brainpower into these associative reads and connections. This is opposed to Vivax who is putting zero brainpower into the game at all.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 19:14 GMT
#592
On May 20 2015 04:04 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:51 Palmar wrote:
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?

Like I said I'm fine with lynching Vivax. If Obi satisfactorily answers my questions I'll even consider switching my vote. But the elsuive Obi is currently in the thread and I want to know if he's mafia.

But you already know whether or not he's mafia??
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#657
On May 20 2015 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred 300% Mafia

Yes, you might be too.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#658
Meh, I'm off for now
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 20:25 GMT
#660
No, I don't need to. Screw you.

Also Vivax is terrible at mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 20:25 GMT
#661
I'm genuinely mad at him for being town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 20 2015 10:36 GMT
#742
Sciberbia is still mafia btw, but remember we never lynch him and lose game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 20 2015 11:26 GMT
#747
wow such hate
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 20 2015 14:11 GMT
#749
I think that's a fine thought process.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 20 2015 14:11 GMT
#750
from me, that is.
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