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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 22:41 GMT
#141
Your townread on palmar is also extremely odd since there is nothing townie in it.
I'm adorable.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 17 2015 22:45 GMT
#142
On May 18 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
##vote Zealos

Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
Although there was a post limit on Assassination...

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though


Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't.


Okay sorry.
##vote Damdred
Gotta say, I feel liberated now I'm being bold and aggressive in my play
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 17 2015 22:45 GMT
#143
On May 18 2015 07:25 Vivax wrote:
Well I read my role PM now so I'm sure I can post this:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Since when have you been so interested in plynches?


This is a question that looks like it's coming from scum Obi.


Pfft. You haven't even seen my more recent mafia games.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 17 2015 22:45 GMT
#144
Not really its just how I feel, i'm a bad target for mafia honestly especially early when i'm still inbetween not caring and caring.

You might see it as wifom response(i'm not sure how its wifom).

I hate the comparison between here and assassination, I made a really odd opening post that got me pressured, then I responded later on (I also wasn't the 2nd post), it was also a post restriction game where I burned through all of my posts really fast. So I don't see the comparison at all.

I haven't berated you at all yet anyway gb
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
May 17 2015 22:45 GMT
#145
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 17 2015 22:46 GMT
#146
On May 18 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
##vote Zealos

Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
Although there was a post limit on Assassination...

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though


Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't.


Also why would I not post my thoughts before coming to a conclusive conclusion.
It can only help town to have all the information in front of them, hiding it until I'm sure is at best a gloryhunting strategy, and at worst, damaging to towns chances of winning
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 17 2015 22:47 GMT
#147
I'm not actually voting btw
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 17 2015 22:48 GMT
#148
Also it's really late in the UK so I need to go to bed, but it's been an interesting start
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
May 17 2015 22:49 GMT
#149
On May 18 2015 07:33 sciberbia wrote:
@Damdred
I agree with Vivax that Palmar could still be scum. What if he is scum and he's just calling you scum to make it look like he's doing something? He may not necessarily be hoping to get you lynched.


Damdred why didn't you answer to this yet?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 17 2015 22:53 GMT
#150
Because i'm only answering things haphazardly and in such a huge game I miss things from skimming.

Theres not really an objective answer at this time, could Palmar be mafia? Objectively yes, could he be doing this as scum? Quite possible.

Just a gut reaction/read with some other things that I feel *shrug*
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
May 17 2015 22:56 GMT
#151
On May 18 2015 07:53 Damdred wrote:
Because i'm only answering things haphazardly and in such a huge game I miss things from skimming.

Theres not really an objective answer at this time, could Palmar be mafia? Objectively yes, could he be doing this as scum? Quite possible.

Just a gut reaction/read with some other things that I feel *shrug*


I notice a lack of motivation
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 17 2015 23:05 GMT
#152
I'm not sure how i'm lacking motivation lol?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 17 2015 23:06 GMT
#153
On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.

That's interesting because I was expecting you to scumread him with me. As I'm sure you'd agree, there's a difference between being wishy-washy and posting unsure conclusions. If he had concluded, "I have found some small reasons to suspect that Damdred is scum", then I would have been more-or-less fine with his post.

What is wishy-washy is saying something and then immediately retracting it or modifying your previous statement to make it less forceful.
"I'd lean slighty mafia BUT I'm not convinced honestly."
"Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive."

This sort of posting is typical of scum who want to look like they are saying something of substance, yet either fear retaliation from a town Damdred, fear looking bad if/when Damdred flips town, or are trying to delicately play a bussing situation.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 23:09 GMT
#154
I like Damdred's explanation this early. Sounds like possibly town.

I don't like Palmar's scumread on Damdred and suddenly peacing out.
I'm adorable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
May 17 2015 23:12 GMT
#155
On May 18 2015 08:06 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.

That's interesting because I was expecting you to scumread him with me. As I'm sure you'd agree, there's a difference between being wishy-washy and posting unsure conclusions. If he had concluded, "I have found some small reasons to suspect that Damdred is scum", then I would have been more-or-less fine with his post.

What is wishy-washy is saying something and then immediately retracting it or modifying your previous statement to make it less forceful.
"I'd lean slighty mafia BUT I'm not convinced honestly."
"Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive."

This sort of posting is typical of scum who want to look like they are saying something of substance, yet either fear retaliation from a town Damdred, fear looking bad if/when Damdred flips town, or are trying to delicately play a bussing situation.


Okay, I'll move him back to null cause you made me unsure.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 17 2015 23:12 GMT
#156
On May 18 2015 07:46 Zealos wrote:
It can only help town to have all the information in front of them, hiding it until I'm sure is at best a gloryhunting strategy, and at worst, damaging to towns chances of winning


This sounds lovely and all, but in my opinion it isn't a good justification Zealos's post. After I read the whole post, my previous opinion towards Damdred's alignment did not change one bit. Considering the large amount of reading I had to do, it didn't really move the thread anywhere.

I could on the next page post logs of every game Damdred has every played, and point to this quote as justification of why it is a pro-town thing to do.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
May 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#157
On May 18 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure how i'm lacking motivation lol?


You answered really superficially and still didn't seem to look in detail at what sciberbia asked of you.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#158
On May 18 2015 08:12 Vivax wrote:
Okay, I'll move him back to null cause you made me unsure.

:D Awesome.

I'm out to dinner. Will be back later.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#159
Zealous is also mafia

So 2/3
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 17 2015 23:23 GMT
#160
Maybe you think I answered superficially that doesn't make what I said bad, I answered the question. Does it change the way i'm reading someone, not really at this point. Its a good thought he has trying to see what I have to say though, which I think hes town anyway.

I'm not sure what you are getting at if you think i'm mafia for answering in this way the voting thread is right over there, otherwise make your point and move on.
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