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On May 26 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2015 22:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 24 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey I am not holding your hand at all this game. I want you to be aware of how completely fucked you are if you don't obvtown this thread up in the next few hours.
I am perfectly willing to sink this game by killing you tomorrow regardless of your alignment and you being a lazy shit is not helping your case. You have been the counterwagon to town TWICE and both times your "associative analysis" has been opportunistic and incorrect by calling me the same alignment as three different confirmed townies, which is completely useless and never seems to affect your opinion on anything.
You don't reanalyze your thought process.
Nothing that happens ever seems to change your reads.
You don't give a shit about what anyone says about anything except maybe yourself.
You're not reading the thread.
Everyone left aside from maybe ONE person wants you dead, and he's pretty much the only reason that you're still here. Get to work. Obi, at this point from a town perspective, who would you lynch besides me and why? I know you mentioned Damdred, but what's the reason why? At this point I'm willing to try and make sure we can get a correct scum lynch before the day is over. I was on the first counter wagon against you due to wrong reads and association, I was playing at a lazy pace due to a lot of work, but it was a better wagon than Vivax who ended up being town. The second lead wagon was Zealos, who you can't blame looked like mafia from the get go, the lack of posting showed he quit when they targeted him which made him an easy accidental lynch. The game has gotten to a point where I now need to show more attention, the post Qwerty! made about Damdred is very good, all in all, we've had more people read Damdred and point out flaws than anybody else in this game. Yet Damdred is very loose about the game in terms of winning or losing, that just seems odd to me. A town player would always want to go for the win. Even if they're just mostly lurking - which makes Qwerty! to me a town player, especially now that he's trying to bring flames at the last minute. Now I know you have questions for me before you decide to let me into your wagon and I will answer to the best of my ability. You are in no position to question me about anything. Tell me who is mafia and why.
Damdred/TheShining/Oats
Damdred:
First off, as mentioned everyone in the beginning of the game was against Damdred, even Palmar who was first night's kill.
On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will.
Besides if you lynch me here you have to share the headline with GB, and do you really want that
This post is extremely scummy, especially the bolded part. Of course Palmar will never catch him, because he killed him off night one.
On May 18 2015 13:28 Damdred wrote:
My reasoning o. Palmar isn't that weak lol
Wasn't that weak? It was weak, it was still the beginning of the game, he completely knew at this point Palmar was town.
On May 19 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
If all activity remains the same with content we lynch in the order of
Ze, shock, obi
Maybe switch shock and obi. And policy for shining and palmar if we go that direction
This next post talks about three town people, he advocates a lynch for us to see who he can get a wagon on. Notice how he's mostly sheeped cases where the result was a town flipped.
Palmar was on to damdred from the beginning, until the Vivax situation happened where Damdred figured he'd be able to help kill off a town on day one.
On May 20 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
I might be ok lynching vivax today, I'm not positive I want to lynch obi today
He was ok with lynching Vivax cause he already knew his alignment. The obi situation would come later at this point. If I would of made a push for you Obi, he would gladly jump on it because he it would result in a town flip. From there, that night Palmar dies instantly, next day, Zealos due to my incorrect reading, helping him increase the winning potential for mafia.
On May 23 2015 03:52 Damdred wrote:
That was a good post by shockey. Don't lynch him
He states he backs my post up, why is he doing this? Cause he knew if he threw his weight on to my wagon, we would lynch off a town, my lynch was obviously coming up this day and he was well aware of that, which is why he doesn't mind lynching me now.
He's on board to lynch me since it's currently the easiest lynch, my style of posting came off as scum and mostly everyone is against me. GB even advocated to lynch Damdred if it wasn't due to my style of posting. So what did he do? He killed off GB before my lynch since it'll make the game easier. My lynch will flip town and Damdred will get his way.
It's obvious I was very focused on a select three, but I was wrong about all of them. I'm trying to make it right and help town now with this push to lynch the real mafia player and have the upper advantage.
##vote damdred
Going to post about Shining now.
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On May 26 2015 01:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm awake now. I've been scum reading trfel since n1 obi when he was so sure vivax was town over nothing and switched off the vivax wagon onto you I believe.
It is interesting that shockey was so sure I'm town in previous postings and he he showed a propensity for sticking to his guns 100% and not caring what anyone said past that point but here he shows....idk a wanting to jump to follow trfel?
Qwerty comes off as town at this point, his voting says he really doesn't know who he wants to lynch and is at least trying to make correct choices based on people's views of others. Obi at this point is really reading town to me after all the misguided lynches I was after.
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On May 26 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
It is also interesting at a cursory look in trfels filter the way he treats you obi. Look at the progression on the read
D1 I'd rather lynch obi today. Omg vivax is town everyone switch to obi
N1 Obi is lock scum. Well I'm not so confident obi is scul anymore
d2 to now. No real talking about any type of feeling about obi instead begs obi to switch to me when he should probably still be wary.
I think the main point is the lack there of fear today of you obi, and the shift and lack of follow up on you just seems weird to me.
It's not weird, it's a town move to win the game while you have no objective to win the game as a "town".
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On May 26 2015 01:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 26 2015 01:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm awake now. I've been scum reading trfel since n1 obi when he was so sure vivax was town over nothing and switched off the vivax wagon onto you I believe.
It is interesting that shockey was so sure I'm town in previous postings and he he showed a propensity for sticking to his guns 100% and not caring what anyone said past that point but here he shows....idk a wanting to jump to follow trfel? Qwerty comes off as town at this point, his voting says he really doesn't know who he wants to lynch and is at least trying to make correct choices based on people's views of others. Obi at this point is really reading town to me after all the misguided lynches I was after. Why am I town?
On May 25 2015 10:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred you just listed me and Shockey on the same scumteam.
This post right here confirmed to me that Damdred is mafia. Why would he list us together as mafia? We obviously didn't share the same views from the beginning of the game, even if were in the same team as mafia, I doubt my posts would still be like they are now. Now that I'm trying to fix my mistakes and win as a town, he's listing us as scum? But trying to go on your side to lynch me?
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On May 26 2015 01:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 01:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 26 2015 01:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 26 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 26 2015 01:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm awake now. I've been scum reading trfel since n1 obi when he was so sure vivax was town over nothing and switched off the vivax wagon onto you I believe.
It is interesting that shockey was so sure I'm town in previous postings and he he showed a propensity for sticking to his guns 100% and not caring what anyone said past that point but here he shows....idk a wanting to jump to follow trfel? Qwerty comes off as town at this point, his voting says he really doesn't know who he wants to lynch and is at least trying to make correct choices based on people's views of others. Obi at this point is really reading town to me after all the misguided lynches I was after. Why am I town? On May 25 2015 10:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred you just listed me and Shockey on the same scumteam. This post right here confirmed to me that Damdred is mafia. Why would he list us together as mafia? We obviously didn't share the same views from the beginning of the game, even if were in the same team as mafia, I doubt my posts would still be like they are now. Now that I'm trying to fix my mistakes and win as a town, he's listing us as scum? But trying to go on your side to lynch me? That doesn't answer my question. @Damdred: I don't have time to talk about anyone else, I've got work soon and I'm about to shower and stuff.
Because of this post:
On May 24 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey I am not holding your hand at all this game. I want you to be aware of how completely fucked you are if you don't obvtown this thread up in the next few hours.
I am perfectly willing to sink this game by killing you tomorrow regardless of your alignment and you being a lazy shit is not helping your case. You have been the counterwagon to town TWICE and both times your "associative analysis" has been opportunistic and incorrect by calling me the same alignment as three different confirmed townies, which is completely useless and never seems to affect your opinion on anything.
You don't reanalyze your thought process.
Nothing that happens ever seems to change your reads.
You don't give a shit about what anyone says about anything except maybe yourself.
You're not reading the thread.
Everyone left aside from maybe ONE person wants you dead, and he's pretty much the only reason that you're still here. Get to work.
And now that you're starting to take leadership in the town, it shows that you're actually trying to win it. The beginning posts of yours threw me off, but when you posted that above and I saw Zealos flip town and GB gone, I flipped my brain and analyzing. Why was I going against what could of been a win for us early on? At this point, I'd rather sheep your vote and try to discuss who can be mafia to try and turn this around. This day lynch is really crucial for winning this game as a town.
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Obi in regards to Stutters:
On May 24 2015 03:36 Stutters695 wrote:
Eh, I'm not too worried about it. If you're town, one of us is dead. If they think you're a medic, you're dead. If they think I'm a medic, I'm dead. It'll work itself out. If we're both alive somehow, I'll elaborate tomorrow, but there are valid points in my case.
Still haven't seen him really posta anything worthwile after the GB kill.
off topic: Why does the quote say a different time than it was actually posted?
"Stutters695 May 23 2015 14:36. Posts 2352 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote #
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Eh, I'm not too worried about it. If you're town, one of us is dead. If they think you're a medic, you're dead. If they think I'm a medic, I'm dead. It'll work itself out. If we're both alive somehow, I'll elaborate tomorrow, but there are valid points in my case."
That kinda throws me off in terms of trying to re-read things.
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On May 26 2015 04:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Has stutters still not claimed his fucking role?
No and he still hasn't provided any kind of post that elaborates on what I quoted him earlier.
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off topic: what's mylo?
On May 26 2015 04:16 Qwerty! wrote:ShoCkeyy, please vote in the voting thread. Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote:
You piggy backed everyone's points against me and posted them as your own you haven't read the thread I've explained almost everything 10 times.
ObiWanShinobi, can you not see how he is twisting things here? He hasn't quoted any of the answers that I asked for, which he claims to have already given. Instead, he's accusing me of claiming other people's arguments as my own, while I haven't claimed a single thing on my own. The only thing that I'm claiming is a desire to get Damdred lynched.
I already said I was going to sheep obi, he's currently voting for me - either I vote for myself or just don't vote at all, I rather just not vote at all if I'm going to be lynched.
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I'm sheeping Obi, so I'm just waiting on him if he moves.
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And I don't think I'm going to play mafia for a while again. This happened in my last game and it was a huge mental drain for me losing as town, too much time taken up away from work.
##vote damdred/shining/oats
I'm done.
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Didn't mean too, but it got ignored and played off really well, other than that <3 GB. Obi & Palmar!
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GB, still mad that I wasnt lynched? 
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On May 26 2015 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Questions for players and observers alike:
1. Aside from the balance, what aspects of the hosting for this game specifically could be improved upon and which aspects were done well?
2. Do you prefer setups that are open, semi-open, or closed? Why?
3. I usually have at least one person asking to be spoiled while observing. Do you think it's a good idea to have a separate obs chat for those who want to be spoiled and one where spoilers are not allowed? Is the risk of cheating too great for it to be worthwhile?
4. Assuming it's balanced would you prefer a game with many roles that are weak (mason/inno child/vet/parity cop/watcher etc) or a game with fewer strong roles (cop/vig/doctor/jk etc) on the town side?
5. Not modkilling for activity; should I start doing that?
1. In all honesty, the hosting was great and was always on time, which kept me interested in the game even though I wasn't actively posting since I knew the day/night posts were always going to be at 4pm est.
2. I don't mind any of them lol.
3. Spoilers suck.
4. I feel like more roles that are weak kinda force the town to really come together, unless they're completely lost. Strong roles usually mean that the person with the strongest role has to put way more effort into winning the game than other players. Maybe a mixture?
5. Inactivity is crucial to a game in my opinion. Some times people just can't respond on time or in a certain amount of time, myself included. It also throws the town in for a loop trying to guess who's mafia based on inactivity ; p
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